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I see his upside. Do you?
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Ryan Leaf said hi and said he also had upside
Upside is not guaranteed. He has plenty of upside. So did Kyle Boller.
You've got the good stuff in the pipe tonight.A solid back-up would be ok, but one of those vapour guys would be WICKED tough to sack.
why is 2 for 2 automatically mean 3 for 3?
If I remember correctly, we were doing pretty well filling up holes in the secondary every time a starter went down enroute to two SBs but since 2005 getting those guys off the street to perform to that injured starters level is no longer a gimme - At one time that was 2 for 2 as well - Things can change and the team can falter at any given time in this league.
You guys are smoking rope.
The chances of Kevin O'Connell being a good QB are marginal based on the success rate of NFL QBs. He might, but it would be a lot more probable if he had 3 - 4 years of experience, before you find out if he can, like Cassel.
Using the Brady argument is saying that since the GOAT QB, took a job due to injury in his second season, anyone could, is truly daft.
IMO, the reason that the Pats did not sign another QB after Brady got hurt was twofold. First, it would have undermined the confidence of Cassel, and if all it took was the physical mechanics, the league would be overflowing with QBs.
It is NOT. Over 90% of QB play goes on between the QBs ears. After he got rolling 5-6 games into the season Cassel psyche was assured, and you could see it in his play. For the first 5 games it was marginal, and could easily have been destroyed, by a Vote of No Confidence in bringing in another guy. That is but one example why Belichick is the GOAT Coach, or damn near.
Secondly, if a second QB goes down in the same the season, and you don't have a QB familiar with the Offense, the season is probably beyond redemption, by the time he is acclimated, anyway. So simply accept it.
And try to make chicken salad out of chicken feathers with a raw rookie,nad others. Despite Cassel's improbable fine play, did you note how many youngsters BB pushed into playing roles in 2008, to get some experience in the Year of No Brady?
If you recall they sent a pair of would be backup QBs home, Simms and Rattay, so they were planning, in the normal course of events, to sign an experienced vet backup behind Brady.
So they absolutely need a experienced vet to backup, in TC to learn the system, for the looming 2009 SB favorite contender. The Pats will sign one bye and bye. Patrick Ramsey is but the first of several interviewees, I'd wager.
Remind me, who is the coach?
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I liked what I saw from O'Connell in the preseason. IMO, he looked better than Cassel.
Unlike Cassel, O'Connell has plenty of starting experience in college.
Moreover, when you consider what we got in return for Cassel, a low 7th rounder, drafting a solid project at QB on Day 2 for a shot at the # 3 spot looks like a no-brainer.
I liked what I saw from O'Connell in the preseason. IMO, he looked better than Cassel.
O'C was playing against the scrubs while Cassel played the starters in pre-season.
O'C also was given rookie free reign while Cassel was runing specific plays NOT necessarily appropriate for the defense the O was facing.
It's the 'Michael Bishop' phenomena where an athletic young QB free of strictures gets to showcase his innate ability vs future Home Depot stocking clerks.
O'C was playing against the scrubs while Cassel played the starters in pre-season.
O'C also was given rookie free reign while Cassel was runing specific plays NOT necessarily appropriate for the defense the O was facing.
It's the 'Michael Bishop' phenomena where an athletic young QB free of strictures gets to showcase his innate ability vs future Home Depot stocking clerks.
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A stocking clerk at Home Depot would be considered a prime job in this economy
For O'Connell to have a season like Cassel did barring another catastrophy to Brady is not very good odds IMO
you throw that out there without any reason why .....do you mean, in general, it's just bad odds? that would be fallacious...do you mean O'Connell is somehow LESS SKILLED than Cassel?...not if measurables are any indicator...or do you mean O'Connell is too inexperienced, in which case you may have a point...if Brady has another "catastrophE", it may well be time to play his eventual successor. By all indications, THIS is why O'Connell was drafted in the first place, an eventual heir to the king.
Are you saying Chad Jackson is KOC?
Measurables are probably 5% of a quarterback's value. O'Connel at this point, is most certainly not as good as Cassel. The odds of Cassel being good were very very low. O'connel's are higher, but they're still very low.
The fact of the matter is, most QBs drafted out of the first 15 picks, are never good enough to play in the nfl. O'connel likely wont be any different, despite teh fact that Cassel is.
As to Lewtwich and Grossman, do you really think they'd be an upgrade? They're both awful players.
Unlike Cassel, O'Connell has plenty of starting experience in college.