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IF...we can't extend Sey, do we trade him before the draft?

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What to do with Sey. IF we cant come to terms before draft.

  1. Trade now while value is highest. (and Draft deep)

    15 vote(s)
    24.2%
  2. Extend him at ANY cost (10-11m?)

    21 vote(s)
    33.9%
  3. Franchise him until...the sun implodes?

    25 vote(s)
    40.3%
  4. Lets him goto FA and hope he comes back...(he won't)

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. SaCaCh

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    franchise him for many years? Let him go?

    With all this new found money, and we still cant extend him right now, 20 mil under, how can we keep him? Why not trade him for a very high first rounder?
    Do we get nothing for him? Choose...
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    #12 Jersey

    trade him ?

    IMO he is one of the best player we have
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    Sorry the poll was slow in coming. I dont want too, but seriously, if we cant extend him now, do we wait?What would change in the next year if we cant do it now?
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    interesting...well if u see that abraham gets a 1st rounder, seymour merits at least a high 1st and a 3rd plus a few other picks. but that would be a last resort and since you can franchise him, there is no reason to trade him.
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    best player????? ummm....try number 12.
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    See I am thinking that his trade value would be at its highest right now as our hand is not being forced. As the franchise years start, it would allow other players to go as we start to overpay for RS and other teams would start to see they could get him for cheaper and cheaper every year we wait.
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    #12 Jersey

    we have IMO two MUST players: Brady and Seymour.

    They are vital for us

    Then we have many important players (i.e: Branch, Bruschi, Vrabel, Watson, Koppen, Wilfork, Wilson, etc) but 2 are vital (Tom and Richard).

    of course just my opinion
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    Well with Sey out we won two playoff games, with Bruschi out we did nothing and practically fell apart. I would push Tedy up a few notches.
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    We're not going to extend him now because we're waiting on our money until after the June cuts go through (my theory). There may be an Eric Moulds or Keith Bullock on the market come June.

    I think we talk contract with big Sey in camp. If we still have some big millions to our disposal, and I believe that some of this 20 mil is reserved for a Seymour extension, then we'll give him a front loaded deal. If that doesn't work, franchise him till the sun implodes.
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    With the new CBA, the third franchise tagging will bring him top 5 average QB salary.
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    This sounds risky nowadays with all the solar implosions in vogue! :rocker:
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    Just franchise him if you cant resign him.
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    For how long?
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    For the first two years if need be then let him obviously walk since we probably wont have a contract by then.
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    If only Marquis Hill had looked good as his possible sucessor :(

    I would probably trade him if we got a worthy offer which would be something like Cleveland's #1 this year and next year. I doubt someone would offer that as they'd have to pay him a lot too. Getting a windfall of picks for him, we'd have to do it. As we have the Franchise Tag available, we could just go in that direction but I think he'd be an unhappy camper being tagged.
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    So if we can't extend him now, keep him for 3 years, and end up with nothing?
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    I agree, get 3 more years out of him.
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    There's good value to trading him but getting 3 more years and losing him has significant value too. Or he could still be traded after being Franchised the second time.
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    True, but the his value would be low as we be forced to trade him at that time. Now we would get a 1 and 2-4. Then probably 4-6 rounder only. I just don't know which makes more sense, I would love to have him for 3 more years, but he won't be happy, and will start corroding the team chemistry we have and thrive on. He will go Lawyer Malloy on us, and maybe cause us to cut him and really get nothing.
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    One tag at a time. Life is beautiful when you live it one tag at a time.:rocker:
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    #24 Jersey

    The Jets are about to get a #1 for Abraham. Admittedly they could keep him but I think everyone knows they won't.

    Move yourself ahead two years, assume Seymour is still healthy and playing at the same level . . . you really think the best we'd get is a #4 ?

    Have to trade him or not, we'd get a #1 because about 31 other teams would be fighting to get him. The bigger issue to me is what his attitude would be like being Franchised. His holdout last year showed that he's quietly about to be a disruption.
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    Trading Seymour now if he isn't interested in an extension is an intriguing idea. He sounds like he might be another one of these guys who thinks offering him the highest contract at his position in the NFL is insulting.

    Did anyone else interpret his remarks in the Globe this morning as meaning that he should be paid more than any other DE because he is also asked to play DT? Is the guy looking to be paid a DE salary PLUS a DT salary? :eek:

    What the heck. I'm surprised Porky Vinatieri hasn't tried that logic. After all, he's asked to tackle runners every once in a while, too.
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    The remarks in the globe certainly are interesting. The future could prove frustrating in regards to #93. The questions pondered in this thread suddenly are very relevant in my opinion. I think he will inevitably price himself right out of NE. Just a matter of when.
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    I agree that it should be a last resort to trade seymour. But, if we are out of other options, I would try to get the Saints #2 pick and draft D'Brickashaw Fergusan. Thats worst case scenario, though. I would still rather keep Seymour.
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    I'm just sensing an attitude erosion in Richard, that will only get worse if he can't be extended right now when we have all the money in the world, if not now then when???
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    How about WE SIGN SEYMOUR. Let me guess we cant sign Givens because we we need to sign Seymour, and we cant sign Seymour, because we need to sign warren, and we cant sign Warren because we need to sign Wilfork. If we lose Seymour I willl be sick.
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    Well no kidding we all would love to sign him, this is about if we can't.
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    I guess winning the Jaguars playoff game without Tedy is nothing ;)
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    You and I at LB could of beaten the Jags...
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    This is what I think is going to happen.

    John Abraham goes to either the Falcons or Seahawks. Seymour's agent will wait until Abraham's contract details are entered into the NFLPA system.Seymour's agent will then know if Abraham's deal tops Kearse's deal as the best ever for a defensive lineman. Seymour's agent will use the better deal as a basis for dealing with the Patriots. The Patriots will then have to decide to make their best offer now or in 2007/2008. I think that the Patriots will make their best offer now and sign Seymour to a huge deal.

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