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  1. Michael

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    ... the PI on Moss. "You see Moss looked at the defender with an interfering intent. And that's why the [late] flag was thrown." And what about the horse collar on Moss by Sheppard earlier that wasn't called? "Well I can't speak to non-calls." :rolleyes:
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    That was a nice flop job by Sheppard.
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    There is a conspiracy against Moss. A few days ago, an article in SI criticized Randy by saying, that he does not deserve to be considered for MVP. Randy was being set up. These kind of negative articles have psychological effect on Refs.
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    i dont like that he is being watched so closely for off PI. its like the refs are watching him more then the dbs. that was a complete bs call...whcih changed the flow of the game...of course once again the Pats are too good to let even the refs decide the outcome of a game
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    Even Madden and Michaels said they did not see any PI on that play, it was bogus pure and simple..
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    Not only that but, the holding call on Washington on teams, I played back 10 times. It was another non-penalty that was called just for the sake of being called.

    THIS IS GETTING OLD!
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    Obviously it was a bad call on Moss. I look at it as a makeup call; Moss does push off at times and this ref obviously went into the game looking (wanting) to call it. Seeing his hands in the body area he threw a bad flag based on reputation. As long as it's not ongoing, it sucked but we squeaked through.
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    Tight coverage, ball on it's way, RM uses hands to create separation. TD. Easy call. If he keeps his hands to himself, he won't get in twrouble.

    Just like a guy dring into the lane, lowering his shoulder into the defenders torso, creates contact, then separation. He got caught, not big deal.
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    Guys put hands on each other all the time. Typically, some arm extension is required to draw a flag for offensive PI ... except, apparently, for Moss.
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    I don't think it is so much the "extension" than it is "creating an advantage". I think if the ref feels like the contact gave the player an unfair advantage, then he's gonna get flagged.
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    If you are going to call it that close, call it consistently. Why doesn't Moss get called for it all the time and not just on sideline TD routes? Why didn't the Eagles TE get called for it last night? Why doesn't TO get called for it?

    The answer is that Moss has a reputation for pushing off on that specific route. The refs are making calls on what they are expecting to see...not on what they actually ARE seeing.

    Speaking of gaining an advantage...did the Eagles' DB gain an advantage by holding Moss' jersey to the point where it was pulled off of his shoulder pads? I don't think anyone wants to see a penalty on every play. Just be consistent so that teams can adjust and compete on a level playing field.
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    Randy Moss always puts his hands out, but I really don't see it as trying to push off or otherwise gain advantage. He is just trying to figure out where the defender is and most importantly to keep the defender from putting his hands on him. That kind of hand-checking goes both ways. All the defender needs to do is get a small piece of Moss' hand to disrupt the catch--I think you have to let Moss defend himself.

    Anyway, it was a terrible call. As bad as it is to call defensive PI and give the team the ball on the 1--it's worse to take 7 points off the board! The ref better be DAMN sure that Moss pushed off if he is going to make that call and for the second time this season there has been a phantom offensive PI against Moss.

    Terrible, terrible call.
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    Mike Periera is so incredibly biased. If the referees called nothing, and they asked him about this he would say the contact did not affect the play and the receiver is allowed to check the defenders position without shoving him. Since the ref's made the call he will say that this is contact made by the receiver and is the correct interpretation of PI.
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    And now you're hallucinating.
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    Good messageboard, Colts troll is envious of undefeated season, tries to disparage what he can't have. Easy call.
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    Was never PI. Even the guys who do the coverage over here picked up on some of the bs calls we've been getting this term. That call was petty.
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    ... the PI on Moss. "You see Moss, farted in the defender's general direction. It's clearly aubible. And that's why the [late] flag was thrown. There should have been a flag for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty as well."
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    Moss's forearm is about as long as most players extended arm
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    Well, it's taken at least 14 points of the board based on 2 phantom OPI calls (1 in Indy, and the one last night). Granted he was called on it (deservedly) in other games, but these two were total blown calls.

    I'd say that since its happened 2 times in the last 3 games, it's become on-going.
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    I just hope this is not a trend going forward.
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    This is getting pretty bad. That was just a botched call. Even the tv announcers remarked on how Moss did nothing. On the replay you could see that Moss did nothing to warrant a PI call. The refs need to use their EYES. This is why PI should be a challengeable call!!
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    I agree that refs should be given the opportunity to take a second look at certain plays to see whether a foul really occured or not. The interaction between defender and reciever occurs over a split second and both guys are essentially sprinting. It's fair to see how a ref can misinterpret the action when it happens so quickly. Yet, for these penalties which probably affect the score of games more directly than any other type of penalty, why is there no review to get the call right? Points off the board, 40-50 yard penalties, 1st and goal on the 1... all of these things are huge game changers and the guys in black and white shouldn't be able to make a bogus call that can cause a large swing on the scoreboard.
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    Yeah, I don't think ALL penalties should be reviewable, but PI can be such a huge play it's crazy that it's not reviewable.
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    Wasn't this the same weak a$$ed officiating crew that screwed us in the Colt game too??
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    That's pure bull. So all Randy's catches are so-called push offs?
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    Once again you don't have a clue what you are talking about. There was no "extension" or "push off". Listen to the announcers for a change instead of posting your nonsense.
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    This was Gene Steratore last night. Colts game was John Parry and his crew.
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    If you are gonna call him for PI for basically non-contact, then the DB could have been charged for impeding his path to the ball after 5 yards. The rule states you cannot step up and block a WR on his route after 5 yards. That bogus call let the Eagles stay in the game. Give them credit. They played well but did get help.
    Hey Ban Me, bet that wouldn't have been offensive PI on Harrison or Wayne? Polian would have had Mike P. in his office this morning if it was.
    Another one of "the great plays against Moss" that the Eagles DBs made was undressing him with a major hold on one route. Madden and his side kick said nada. He had a "wardrobe malfunction" I guess. His jersey was around his head. There was not one hold on Randy all night? Are you kidding me?
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    That was a nice hold on Welker down the sideline when Stall slipped through. How do you guys get away with so much?

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    Bunch of Friggin' whiners you all are. I bet if it weren't for that play, you'd a scored 60, eh??
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    Get lost. Do you not have a Colt board that you can go circle jerk on? or, are you such a freaking idiot that they banned you from all of them?
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