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How is Mic'ing Brady's Audio Calls Not Illegal?

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  1. maverick4

    maverick4 Banned

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    Someone please explain to me how mic'ing every single Brady audio call does not give other teams a huge competitive advantage, as much cheating as sideline video is?

    Anybody can TIVO this game and match up Brady's line calls with the video play on the field. How is this ANY DIFFERENT from videotaping sideline defensive signals for post-game analysis?
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    You really cannot be serious...
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    SERIOUSLY, buddy. How is getting the audio call of every Brady play tonight (and matching it up with on-field video) so much worse than videotaping sideline video and synching it up with on-field tape post-game? How is what NBC doing tonight allowed, yet what the Pats did was sacrilegious?
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    worst part about it..its only Tom Brady and occasionally Manning
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    It's always manning too. I find it a little annoying too when they do it, but what are you gonna do?
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    My point is, how is getting every single Brady audio signal (which allowed you to match his words up with on-field video after the game) any worse than sideline video of defensive hand signals?????
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    you mean like how ever team does (or should) change defensive hand signals every week?
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    is there a mic on brady / manning or do the networks just focus the field mics on them?
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    Hey troll, quick question: Can you name one quote where Tom Brady whined? Didn't think so. Keep convincing yourself that we're cheaters lol. Embrace your suckiness.
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    It did startle me how easily I was able to hear the audibles. There were two times where I could hear him say a player's name and that was who he threw to. Once he said "Wes" and Welker got the ball. Another he said "Jab" and Gaffney got the ball.
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    Yes, exactly. How is this harmless, yet sideline video of hand signals is worth being called 'cheaters' and penalized a 1st rounder?
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    Seriously, how is one case harmless and the other case worth a 1st rounder and 750K?
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    In all fairness, the defense can hear Brady shouting out this stuff in real time.

    It is up to Brady and co to change any critical signals game to game and within a game. Perhaps NBC relaying the signals around the world will stop complacency when it comes to changing signals.

    Personally I find listening to the calls fascinating, and am glad NBC does it.
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    Apparently Boomer Esiason on WFAN said the same thing this morning, that other teams can sync up Brady's audio with field video after the game.
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    ten characters
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    Yes, the players can hear it, but COACHES aren't normally provided with a game tape with all this audio that they can rewind and analyze for future use. You know, unless they videotape it themselves. Thanks NBC, for cutting out the middle man!
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    the networks just focus the field mics on them
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    That's kind of like saying that coaches can steal signals real time; they can but it's easier to analyze post game with it on tape.

    Me too. I got a kick out of the one play when Brady said "Randy, something, something, something" like they're a couple kids on a playground, not just changing a play but yelling a name and saying "do this"; I'm sure it was nothing unique but it made me laugh.
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    I just posted this on the Saints board that I frequent and I baited one of the other posters to reply with "The NFL assumes teams change their signals week to week so it isn't a big deal." To which I said "oh, by that logic shouldn't the Pats have 2 first round picks?"

    Fecking pwned.
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    The key word is "thinks".

    I've come to the conclusion that the majority of the "whole country" is a bunch of idiots. Just look at who was voted into the White House. We have a president that can't even put a complete sentence together without screwing it up.

    Instead of just believing everything the media throws out there, think about whether or not what they are saying makes any sense.

    There is usually an explanation, that no one even considers, until after the truth comes out.
    Once that happens all the "experts" will say "That's what I was thinking".

    We will only know the truth if/when Bill Belichick writes about it in his book after he retires. Until then, it's all just opinions.

    Opinions, when reviewed years later, are often wrong.
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    That's fine, but do it to EVERY team.
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    i just remember hearing brady say "96 alert" on virtually everyplay, and point to #96
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    Actually he is and I agree with him, the Pats were said to be in some hot water for putting a mic on one or more of their D players to record a QBs snap counts, why is this any different? I don't seem to recall them letting us hear what Feeley said all night long, but I am willing to admit I'm wrong on that one because I was too busy trying to convince myself not to jump off the roof of my building while the game was on. ;)
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    Haha, yeah. He definitely was yelling "96" on almost every play. Also, alot of "OMAHA." Where I come from that means the WR he calls it too should run an out pattern, but that seems to blatantly obvious for the NFL.
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    96 was the linebacker, "alert" was he might be blitzing, Brady almost always tells his line who the "Mike" (Middle LB) is, and whatever "Omaha" means, I've heard that one in everygame this year. The hands signals are the ones that they have to change, and they do, the wiping his shirt was a new one this week, along with the tugging on his facemask.

    All it goes to show is how BS the whole spygate thing is (was).
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    I don't think it was a big deal. It sounded mainly like reads he was making at the line and not play calls. And it's not like they were very complicated reads/signals that he was calling out. It would be one thing if he was calling the play at the line and you could hear the entire play call. I think it was just adding to NBC's coverage.

    As far as Feeley goes, was he even saying anything at the line? I didn't notice.
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    When Brady says Jab or Wes or whatever, he is calling out the 'hot' receiver for that play, it doesn't necessarily mean they get the ball (although they did get the ball a few times from that).

    It seems weird to me to call out to the defense who your hot route is.
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    I guess that means when we say "Brady can tell the defense what we're running and they still can't stop it" that we aren't just talking out of our asses.
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    I would think this was just us - or, at least, me - not understanding the benefit (or lack thereof) to broadcasting this stuff, except that Boomer Esiason is saying the same thing. The guy knows whereof he speaks, and if he think it's questionable, then I tend to think it may be.
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    I think getting all the offensive audio keywords of Brady's line calls may be even worse than videotaping defensive hand signals. Does anyone else see some blatant hypocrisy and double standards in the severity of the Pats punishment?

    [edit] nonPatsfan trolls are trying to flag this thread with 1 star, but I think this is a legitimate point, you can't sweep this under the rug.
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