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On "Below Average," let's look at his record in Cleveland.
His first season, he was 6--10 with a team that had gone 3--13 the year before. No dis on that.
In his second and third seasons (7--9 each) it became clear to him that Kosar wasn't going to get the job done, but he had to arm wrestle with everyone in sight over easing him out.
In his fourth season, after the QB situation was resolved and Testaverde was established over Center and with a D that gave up the fewest points in the entire NFL, he went 11--5, won a game in the Wild Card Round and lost to the Steelers in the Divisional round.
The fifth season was consumed with the move to Baltimore. Even then, though, he started out 4--4 before losing six in a row as the news broke in Cleveland, ending up 5--11.
Please tell me how building a team with the best performing defense in the league in four seasons, after starting from a 3--13 base, and taking them to the Playoffs the year before the Owner stiffed the city and brought its wrath down on everything associated with the organization, please tell me how that is "Below Average?"
He might have been inexperienced. There might be some things he would do over if he could, but "below average?" I don't think so. :bricks:
His first season, he was 6--10 with a team that had gone 3--13 the year before. No dis on that.
In his second and third seasons (7--9 each) it became clear to him that Kosar wasn't going to get the job done, but he had to arm wrestle with everyone in sight over easing him out.
In his fourth season, after the QB situation was resolved and Testaverde was established over Center and with a D that gave up the fewest points in the entire NFL, he went 11--5, won a game in the Wild Card Round and lost to the Steelers in the Divisional round.
The fifth season was consumed with the move to Baltimore. Even then, though, he started out 4--4 before losing six in a row as the news broke in Cleveland, ending up 5--11.
Please tell me how building a team with the best performing defense in the league in four seasons, after starting from a 3--13 base, and taking them to the Playoffs the year before the Owner stiffed the city and brought its wrath down on everything associated with the organization, please tell me how that is "Below Average?"
He might have been inexperienced. There might be some things he would do over if he could, but "below average?" I don't think so. :bricks: