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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.No ego here. When I am wrong, I admit it. I have admitted it several times in this thread. It is just fun playing with Deus' ego since he cannot even fathom the possibility he could be wrong even on the smallest issue.
Since I gotta suffer through his self-important, contrarian, condecending posts (even his screenname is a pompous play on Dies Irae [day of wrath] or he just can't spell); I gotta revel in him making a hypocrite of himself.
–noun
a person who takes an opposing view, especially one who rejects the majority opinion, as in economic matters.
Actually their job is to do what is in the best interests of their clients, and in this case there is serious question as to whether any of these lawyers are doing that, and bogging down a deal they all need to try and blow it up for your own agenda is doing your clients a disservice and not the job they were hired to do. Kessler wants the system done away with entirely, and to date not one player has come out in support of that concept, so there is real question as to why he would try so hard to derail the deal.
Both sides need new lawyers to write and sign off on the deal, lawyers who have no stake either in ego or reputation in the outcome.
FYI
Deus Irae is Latin for god of wrath or anger.
We know but DI said he took it because of the book of that name.....
A reviewer's comment:
"Overall, it has some elements that I like, but it's just so relentlessly grim that I didn't enjoy it. "There are no heroes in ****'s books", Ursula K. Le Guin wrote and that about sums it up. Everybody's just kind of an azzh0le". YIKES !
We know but DI said he took it because of the book of that name.....
A reviewer's comment:
"Overall, it has some elements that I like, but it's just so relentlessly grim that I didn't enjoy it. "There are no heroes in ****'s books", Ursula K. Le Guin wrote and that about sums it up. Everybody's just kind of an azzh0le". YIKES !
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1.) The screen name is from a book title:
2.) Contrarian:
Contrarian | Define Contrarian at Dictionary.com
which means that anyone opposing a prior stated opinion is being a 'contrarian', including you when you disagree with a previous poster.
sorry Rob...but Deus Irae is a phrase in Latin that means God of Wrath...
I had six years of Latin...back in the days before "classical education BAD!!!! Pop tart homogenized lowest common denominator good!!!"...I apologize if I seem condescending
As has become all too frequent with you, you're clowning yourself. From the quote in your own post that you conveniently ignored while bolding everything else:
That's the issue. You were wrong. You're now just putting on the big shoes and red nose to complete your clown outfit. Calling me a hypocrite just makes you look even more ridiculous, given that I'm staying on point and you ran off claiming it was off topic and you were done with it until Freeman posted his stuff.
The article also supports the original premise of this thread that there is a belief that Kessler (along with Quinn) are trying to derail the the process to go back to litigating the antitrust case. Since we have established in this thread that sources opinions are news, it is fair to state that. That said, the talk Kessler had before this week's meeting in context may not have been an example of his derailing the process based on this report. I admit I may have been wrong there. Although I still agree with the owners that I think he wants this brought back into the legal process over the negotiation.
Yes, I was wrong. A part of the off the top credit to the owners has been for the construction of stadiums. Not all of it, but some of it. But that started in 2006 and only two or three stadiums have been built in that time.
But this CBA, they are reducing or eliminating the off the top credit. Word was when they report the framework of the CBA the week of the owner's meeting, the off the top credit was eliminated. This past week there was rumors that the owners re-introduced the off the top credit at about $500 million which is half of what it was in 2009.
As for player endorsements, I personally don't believe the owners deserve any part of it. But I also don't believe that the players deserve a percentage of an U2 concert in Gillette or the Revelotions box office either.
I feel the off the top credit was agreed to without the inclusion of non-football revenues and now the owners are reducing or eliminating this credit and the players want more of the revenues generated for things that were helped constructed for these activities. So they want to pay less for paying more.
As for players' endorsements, they are PARTNERS with the owners. That is what they have been saying to get a share of all the revenues. That means the brand of Peyton Manning is a partnership between him and the owners. The owners therefore, at least in theory, should get a percentage of whatever he makes off of his name or likeness.
You really cannot have it both ways. Either the players are employees or they are partners or "the product". If they are employees, they have no right to expect a percentage of virtually everything the owners makes. If they partners, a partnership goes both ways and the money generated should be shared both directions. If they are a product, the owners have the right to a percentage of everything the player makes on endorsements based on their play in the NFL.