Welcome to PatsFans.com

Globe: Pats close to extension with Kaczur

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Warren94, Aug 23, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Warren94

    Warren94 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Messages:
    1,212
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Per Reiss of course.
  2. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2006
    Messages:
    40,774
    Likes Received:
    64
    Ratings:
    +89 / 3 / -1

    Disable Jersey

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    That'll piss off Wilfork.



    Get your popcorn ready.
  3. farn

    farn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

  4. LloydBraun

    LloydBraun Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    600
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    He was scheduled to make $2.27 this year, so perhaps this extension will lower that number. That could possibly help with the Vince talks.
  5. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,088
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +37 / 2 / -3

    #24 Jersey

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Wilfork's looking to break the bank, Kaczur isn't. And if you dispute the first statement, the Patriots have shown they'll extend players early IF AND ONLY IF the team gets a solid deal.
  6. Jimke

    Jimke Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Instead of dealing with the high salary items, the Patriots may

    look to extending players like Gostowski, Kaczur, and Woods.
  7. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    19,949
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +29 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Well, he's probably not looking for a double digit signing bonus or salary approaching that...

    He was set to be one of the many 6th year RFA's. But given his present salary that would have made him a $2.5M RFA RT which is between the two top tenders (first round and first plus third). So he was going to make close to $5M over the next two years any who. Let's see what his signing bonus and first two years salaries or his guaranteed money is under the new deal. His new deal could easily lower or simply maintain his cap since where he was drafted he's mostly salary now and got little in the way of signing bonus (only $132K in remaining amortization).

    Miguel has us at $3.5M under the cap (although I can't find what Walter is signed for so I'm not sure he's factored him in). And there may be a couple of million in cuts over the next two weeks if some of the largely salary veterans don't make the roster.

    Most of the big boys get roughly half of their deal guaranteed. If Wilfork is looking for $50M+ ($8M+ per over 6) the Krafts could be reluctant to commit to that knowing that year 3 of his deal (or less than half way) he could be locked out... There are some guys you will commit to doing that for (like a franchise QB who's already a HOF lock). Can't do it for all of 'em.

    I have a feeling that there are multiple philosophical differences underlying not getting the Wilfork extension done involving cap, cash and value...
  8. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    19,975
    Likes Received:
    24
    Ratings:
    +28 / 1 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    I don't think Gostkowski is an easy extension.

  9. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,243
    Likes Received:
    33
    Ratings:
    +34 / 0 / -1

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    What makes you say that? I don't see anything suggesting it'll be difficult, either.
  10. spacecrime

    spacecrime Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    8,329
    Likes Received:
    17
    Ratings:
    +17 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    How do all the long-time Kaczur detractors feel about this?

    What happens when they extend Maroney next year? Lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth, I'll bet.

    chuckle chuckle
  11. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    29,360
    Likes Received:
    46
    Ratings:
    +59 / 1 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Not if Kazcur gets a below market deal which I would expect and his new salary lowers his 2009 cap number. Wilfork won't be upset if a guy takes less to stay here. Wilfork will be upset if he gets more than what most RTs get which is very doubtful.
  12. jbb9s

    jbb9s Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2006
    Messages:
    2,159
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    does anyone want to address what this suggests about managements evaluation of Kaz? I never really thought he was all that good - with some really really horrible games mixed in with avg/below avg play time. I still feel like if O'callaghan didn't get hurt, there was a chance he could have taken that spot at RT.

    People have been talking for years about moving Light to RT and getting a young stud in at LT to protect the franchise's blind side. Guess that is not in the works.
  13. Jimke

    Jimke Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    They will have to pay him top dollar for a kicker but not 8-10 million

    per year with 25 million guaranteed.
  14. pats1

    pats1 Moderator PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 28, 2005
    Messages:
    13,261
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    Vollmer isn't that young stud? I beg to differ.

    This could be bad news for Light. The Pats aren't extending Kaczur before he hits free agency so he can be demoted to a swing tackle soon.
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2009
  15. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,088
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +37 / 2 / -3

    #24 Jersey

    Light would want LT money to play RT. Because he could leave and get LT money to play LT.
  16. WhiZa

    WhiZa Rookie

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Right, I'm not sure why everyone is saying Wilfork will be pissed. He's asking for 5-times what Kaczur probably will sign for.
  17. BradfordPatsFan

    BradfordPatsFan Rookie

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    2,525
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    This could just be the first domino to fall in a line of extensions for the would-be FA class of next year.
  18. Jimke

    Jimke Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Hope you are right. There are about 26 potential free agents.
  19. Armchair Quarterback

    Armchair Quarterback Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,542
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    I don't expect the money to be all that much. Remember he was a 25 yo rookie and is now 30. His value in the coming years may be at the guard position as a possible replacement for Neal or even Mankins if he leaves. Wherever he ends up at, they are signing him for the fact that he can be at least marginal starter at four different positions. He filled in pretty good for Light in his rookie year at LT.
  20. DefenseRules

    DefenseRules Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2005
    Messages:
    9,748
    Likes Received:
    15
    Ratings:
    +15 / 0 / -0

    As I said in the previous thread...WHY?? I would rather see Mankins with a new deal before Kaczur.
  21. PATSYLICIOUS

    PATSYLICIOUS Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    10,961
    Likes Received:
    5
    Ratings:
    +8 / 0 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    Wilfork's not the only one that would be upset.

    Mankins will require a significant payraise to extend. Kaczur can be extended and stay at or around his current cap # for 2009.
  22. The_Riddler

    The_Riddler Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,518
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    We re-up the weaklest link in our offensive line ? Makes sense.........

    Let's give James Sanders, a perennial role player, starters dough locked in at 3 years and let's re-up Nick Kaczur ? It all makes sense doesn't it....

    Huh?
  23. BradfordPatsFan

    BradfordPatsFan Rookie

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    2,525
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Do we know how much Kaczur received in his extension?
  24. DefenseRules

    DefenseRules Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2005
    Messages:
    9,748
    Likes Received:
    15
    Ratings:
    +15 / 0 / -0

    Well said.
  25. The_Riddler

    The_Riddler Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,518
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    I don't want to know..............
  26. Armchair Quarterback

    Armchair Quarterback Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,542
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    There will probably be a $20-30 million dollar difference between the two contracts.
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2009
  27. mayoclinic

    mayoclinic PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    12,376
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    I can only assume they are trying to tie up some of the small fish within the constraints of the available cap room before going after the big fish in the offseason.

    My priority for resigning2009 FAs as of right now is something like the following:

    1. Wilfork
    2a. Seymour
    2b. Mankins
    4. Gostkowski
    5a. Bodden (assuming he does well)
    5b. Burgess (assuming he does well)
    7. Guyton
    8a. Kaczur
    8b. LeVoir

    Most of the others I am uncertain about at this juncture, including Faulk (age), Green, and Galloway (age). Many of the others are JAGs.
  28. BradfordPatsFan

    BradfordPatsFan Rookie

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    2,525
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    You don't want to know but you would rather jump to the conclusion that it is some contract worth being upset over...Right.
  29. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2006
    Messages:
    40,774
    Likes Received:
    64
    Ratings:
    +89 / 3 / -1

    Disable Jersey

    Re: Kaczur close to an extension?

    I have no problem with the team extending its starting right tackle. It doesn't mean that Wilfork won't be pissed about it, though. On the contrary, common sense would lead one to expect him to be annoyed by it, particularly given this other article:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/08/no_progress_wit.html
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2009
  30. crowell33

    crowell33 Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    2,535
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Well put. Seabass and Kaczur could be the future tackles.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page