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Fred Taylor Needs the Lions Warmup or Save him for the Jets?

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  1. Patpartizan

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    I hope he plays Thursday just to shake the bugs out before the Jets rematch.
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    Watch out, try not to make the lions game seem easier or less of a game than the Jets game or you will get a bunch of idiots saying that you "disrespect" NFL teams...

    On topic of your thread, I also hope he plays Thursday so he is not rusty.
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    BJGE and Woodhead are a good duo with Morris at FB. I dont know where Fred fits in where he comes back.
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    Shoot, I'd be happy if he suits up period in either game
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    RBs don't need much ramp up time, especially with as many miles as Taylor has. I would love to see him come back for the Jets game and just tear them up. Give Brady a game off :)
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    He'll be the only rested guy on the field.:D
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    Fred Taylor is resting for his early retirement! :rolleyes:
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    This is the answer. I'm not counting on it, it would be gravy.
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    No thanks. BJGE and Woodhead have looked awesome IMO.

    The knock on BJGE is that he doesn't have the speed to take it to the house...name the last Patriots RB who did? Certainly not a 34 year old Fred Taylor with a bad wheel. I love the BJ/Woodhead tandem and I don't see what Taylor brings at this point that these two don't.
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    It would be great if Taylor could get into the Lions game. He'd be fresh and going against battered players, plus any problems due to not being used to contact could be dealt with against a non-conference team.
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    Id bet that Taylor is faster then all the RB's on the team. And thats at age 34.

    Taylor would be a combination of Woodhead/Ellis. Hes fast and has size. Not to mention you can count on him to pick up on the blitz. Remember that nice block he had to save Brady earlier this year? Thats 13 years of experience.


    But, thats all null if he cant stay healthy enough to actually use any of that in a game.
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    Love me some Fred, but frankly I'm mystified why they haven't IRed him at this point. And after last year when he was out until [surprise :D] they brought him in for the Jags game, so I thought they had been saving him for that and the end of season/playoffs, but he disappeared off the roster again after the Jags game, IIRC. And not due to inury, that I recall, so I blamed O'Brien's playcalling natch. :D Anyway, this year I don't get it at all. Our run game with BJGE and Woodhead is doing way better than we expected, yet still holding a roster spot?

    But hey, what do I know about football, I guess? :confused:
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    Thats because they know and see how good a back he still is. Why else would they keep that spot tied up for so long? He probably does outstanding in practices, but just cant get away from the injuries ingame...

    I sure hope he catches a break soon. No pun intended :p
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    Dude, you don't have to look it up to see that Woodhead is faster than Fred Taylor ever was or will be. But I did. From wikipedia:

    Woodhead did not receive an invite to the NFL Scouting Combine so he had to use his pro day to show his abilities. According to a report on NFLDraftWatch.net, he ran the 40-yard dash in times of 4.33 to 4.38 seconds which would have been the second-fastest among all running backs at the NFL Combine in March 2008. He posted the best pro-agility time of 4.03 seconds, the second-best vertical jump (38½ inches) and the best 60-yard shuttle time (11.2 seconds)


    Makes you wonder how so many teams missed on this guy. I for one have not seen him miss a blitz pickup yet. I think BJ and he make a great 1-2 punch. Plus, I have them both on my fantasy team and we all know that plays in to BB's decision on who to play :)
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    Before he got hurt in the Jets game he did rip off a good run that was called back due to a penalty, I think this guy is gonna surprise a few fans these last few games.
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    No disrepsect but he's making $3,000,000 this year I believe and he hasn't even run for 400 yards in his 2 seasons with NE.

    BJGE and Woodhead are a great duo for our style. Taylor's depth to the roster doesn't hurt but i would be pretty upset if he takes playing time from either back without them suffering an injury or being winded from a long drive.
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    Save him for the playoffs.
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    Belichick will not share your sentimentality. When healthy, Taylor is a weapon that Green-Ellis is not. He'll get carries.
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    Yeah, when is that? Do you see the issue here? Remember Shawn Crable?
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    Fred ran a 4.32, being taller, heavier, and stronger then Woodhead. So I guess that "ever was or will be" line sounds pretty foolish now :D.
    Woodhead is quick in a short/small amount of space. Id still say Fred is faster them in him a straight up foot race.

    If Taylor stays healthy it will be him and woodhead as the 2 main backs, with Taylor being the primary back and Woodhead being the change of pace guy.
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    I'd say we'll see him on thursday, hopefully. When the inactives came out this past sunday afternoon, I wondered with the game on thursday, maybe the logic was "why rush him back, save him for Detroit". He was on WEEI recently for a interview and since the Pats seem to have this unwritten rule of no media appearances if your hurt, it's just a matter of time.
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    The way Fred Taylor spoke last week to the media, I am willing to predict that we will finally see him on Thursday. How much playing time is another question, but as a huge fan of Taylor I really hope he can be fit for the Jets. He is just unstoppable at times and will just pound the ball . Welcome back Freddie, we need you for the final furlong.
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    Just guessing. A short turn around is tough on anyone. I would imagine especially on a veteran rb who gets hit every play. May not have been able to recover if he had to play Sunday given his age. Now, he gets to play after a long layoff. And, gets a longer than normal layoff before his next game. I also remember a couple of runs in pre-season against New Orleans and Atlanta where he showed some giddyup. Was hoping we could use him like "Clock Killing" Dillon in 04. We shall see.
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    In these days of short attention spans, I'm not sure people get just how good a back Taylor has been--1500 yard seasons, always 4+ yds per pop. And his injury history has actually saved him tremendous wear & tear.

    I like when BJGE has done too, and think he's a good back for this team. But Taylor is a whole other animal.
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    Not sure I agree. His last healthy year was 2007 in which he was 31 years old and just hit 2200 or so career carries. My point is that he is just like every other RB that reaches early 30s and 2k carries.

    But, when healthy (which is the 99.9% of the problem) he is the same if not better than BJGE
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    I fail to see how having Fred Taylor back and in fresh football shape is a bad thing. Does anybody with a brain in proper working order object that Green-Ellis, Taylor and Woodhead creates more problems than our current set up? If so you need a brain examination. Getting Taylor back is great news if it eventuates.
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    I don't think that they should ask too much of him on Thursday, playing too many plays. But I think even a vet needs to knock the rust off and get his body used to game speed and to taking a real hit and recovering.

    Honestly if he doesn't play at all vs. the Lions I don't want him trying to be the #1 RB vs. the Jets. I hope he gets 4-7 carries Thursday, tests the foot, takes a hit, gets some confidence, and is ready for 10-15 carries vs. the Jets if needed and after an 11 day rest with more time to prepare a specific game plan.

    The added benefit to Fred being healthy is BJGE getting more reps on special teams where he is also very good.
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    Great point about short turnaround games. Which is why it would be a win-win situation if Taylor can come in Thursday and play - - give BJGE and Woody a breather on 3 days rest.

    What alot of posters here don't seem to catch is that Taylor is a DIFFERENT type of runner (pounder) at this stage of his career than BJGE (slasher) and Woody (rabbit).

    Why the comparisons? It's not an either-or proposition here. Taylor would COMPLEMENT (different from "compliment") the RB mix. That is a good thing all around.
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