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    Anyone watching Cris Carter and Mark Craphead on Espn?

    This is such a bunch of Bull.

    Why don't they have at least one person that can rebutt what these
    jerks are saying.

    ESPN is continuing it's smear campaign agqaint the PATs. :mad:
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    I turned it of after the Saban miking up their players to get audibles was something he learned by being on the Belichick coaching tree. I am watching the NFL Network coverage now, a lot more impartial than those hacks.
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    Cris Carter will be on ESPN about long enough to have a cup of coffee. He's gonna make a great studio partner for Emmitt Smith. :D Schlereth played for one of the better cheaters the game has seen. We need not worry about the opinions of these 2 guys. Given an opportunity to have quality debate with an intelligent, objective person defending the NE position, these 2 would be in big trouble.
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    Anyone think that ESPN would act any other way. They will still continue to maintain they used it during games eventhough there is no evidence of that. They will also do anything to keep this whole thing going for as long as they can.
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    Is it me, or are Carter and Schlereth confusing game film with signal stealing? They keep saying things like "New England could learn that every time they run a 2 TE set, the other team plays cover 2." Couldn't they do that with regular game film? What do signals have to do with that?
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    They seem prety objective to me.

    They are just discussing the news of the day and all the nuances of the situation.

    Chill, it will be mostly over soon.
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    They are speculating, and then, minutes later, treating their prior speculation as fact.

    It is completely irresponsible journalism, although that is nothing new for ESPN.
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    These tapes are exactly like the Jets one that leaked back in September (except more shaky since Walsh was evidently a crappy photog). What on earth did you expect?
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    Well it was just my opinion, as a non Patriot.

    Question, where do you go when you want responsible journalism? I find ESPN to be fairly consistent.
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    Go back to the Colts board, Jan. Im sure your boys are missing you.
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    Of course you do. That's why they have no qualms about being virulently anti-patriots-- it appeals to 95% of their audience.
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    For sports? There isn't any, really. If you look local, though, you'll usually find at least one reporter who hasn't gone sensationalistic (someone like Reiss for in New England).
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    They're former players, who the hell are you? Unfortunately they're right. You can keep right on inserting your pinky fingers up BB's ass hole. However, I refuse to respect a coach that has taken me and my 26yr old son for a ride. Belichick has not only hosed us as fans but he's hosed the players who wear the three SB's with pride. There is no longer anything prideful about anything done in the Belichick era. Absolutely pitiful and you people disgust me with your blindness. These tapes are out and public opinion will rule. This organization just became even more tainted on May 13th 2008.
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    I don't see ESPN as anti Pats at all, and I do not believe that 95% of there viewers are anti Pats.

    I am not anti Pats.
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    You see, any fan that feels anything other than man love for the Patriots is insulted and will probably be banned. Open you eyes! Wake the **** up people! This franchise will forever bare a scarlet letter just as Trey Wingo said.
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    Fair enough, thanks for the reply.:)
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    I mean, I understand why the organization would care. I have no idea why I should. If we understand the truth and understand that it didn't influence our Super Bowls, why buy into it?
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    I don't buy that.

    It will be used as fodder by anti Pats for generations though, but as a whole football fans will see it for what it is.
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    They had one - Sean Salisbury - but they fired him.

    And yes, Schlereth and Carter are going off the deep end. But they always resort to the "if they didn't get a huge advantage then why did they do it" crap.

    The FIRST thing I noticed about those tapes is....they were obviously edited! They couldn't be used during the same game!
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    You don't know if it didn't influence our SB's. That's a fact. To say that it didn't influence our SB's is not fact it's only "we hope it didn't influence."
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    What?!?!? You're comparing the taping of a football game to adultery???

    How positively Gothic!!!!

    Get a grip, man!
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    I don't feel it did...so why do I care? If you do then that's your prerogative. I wouldn't let ESPN influence that opinion.
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    I'm not here to sway anyone or sound like OMFG! I will continue to pull for the team I've pulled for since I was 8 years old. I however, will never have respect for BB and what he's done to this organization and it's players. I wish the Pats had never even hired him. I am just genuinely very angry. And having to see these tapes is awful.
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    They don't look edited to me, if they are they did a ****ty job of it.
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    ESPN is a complete joke, they're stating speculation as fact and talking out their ass.
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    The most surprising thing to me is how outraged they are when they see the sideline shots spliced in with the end zone view (like the coaches tape they get every week). This edit would obviously happen post-game and couldn't possibly happen at halftime. That would seem to prove Belichick's point that this was information processed for post-game analysis and not used in game. They are totally ignoring this and still plowing along with their rants about how this information was an unfair advantage during the 2nd half of games. Simply braindead analysis. They have a conclusion and the facts be damned.
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    So then how did they suddenly get end zone shot of the play in there?
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    What team is that you rooted for the Giants or the Cowboys. No BB MEANS NO Lombardi, Yeah I too wish he had never shown up changed the culture of of a franchise and a region altogether, man I miss Tony Eason too.....
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    Thank the lord... did everyone else here just hear Goodell state with no uncertainty, that it IS PERMISSABLE to scout other teams signals, and they take great lengths to protect them as such.

    This is the best thing i've heard him say so far.:rocker:
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    Can someone please state what is on these tapes, I am at work.

    However, anything that is done for everyone to see, aka team signals, cannot be that bad. Team signals are not a private act, they are always out in the open, they always have been since the beginning of sportsmanship, they have to be in order to work. The fact that the Pats taped them from the wrong location for their own records is not all that bad, as a matter of fact, it is has always been beyond me why anyone would think this is so horrible in the first place, I would even argue that that league rule is incorrect and Belichick's interpretation was the better one, that its ok to use video on the sidelines as long as its after the game (can anyone give a good justification for not allowing video camera's on the sidelines, I can't think of one). If teams didn't want signals out in the open, they wouldn't use them.

    Your acting like they videotaped Goodell and Polian in the sack and played it for everyone to see...calm down...and if it pains you that much to watch, treat it like porn and look away.
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