Which is why the pass rush skills of the players we are relying on is so important.
I've explained over and over again that I watch Ninkovich play, he is not a good passer, he gets very inconsistent and rare pressure, and counting sacks and calling that pass rush is not reasonable.
You can continue to call him 'fine' or write down sack numbers. That doesn't change what i see on the field.
Our inside pass rush stinks. That is why I listed it as the secondary reason. If you really think Vince Wilfork has more responsibility in generating pass rush than whoever lines up at LDE I don't know what to say.
The secodnary would be a lot better if the pass rush was. It goes hand in hand.
Priamry does not mean ONLY. I don't know how you can give the guy who is primarily responsible for the pass rush (allong wiht Jones who isnt a problem) a pass and say the secondary, the DTs, or not helping him with blitzes are the primary reasons.
His role changed.
YES. Its not his fault. You seem to be looking at this from an emotional viewpoint. Ninkovich isn't good enough to be a full time passrushing DE on a team with a consistent, ferocious pass rush. You cannot have a consistent ferocious pass rush without that guy. If it makes you feel better we can change it to the primary reason is we don't have a good pass rusher across from Jones.
Yes he is, and of course thats a problem when it creates the biggest weakness on your team.
Again, get over the emotional response as if Nink is your borther. We need to be better at his position. As I said blame it on settling for him as a starting LDE rather than on him if you wish, but that position is an issue.
Not good enough. And our pass rush was our biggiest weakness because of it, among other things.
Thats not true. I guess it depends on what you mean by consistent, though.
Not at all. I am saying our pass rush stunk, and the LDE position was the most culpalbe compared to what should be expected from that spot. You are reducing 600 pass rush attempts to essentially how many times the QB was flushed into his arms, which were half of his sacks. I am considering all 600. Stats don't answer that.
Thats hilarious, because you agree above, you just prefer to not 'blame' the player but instead blame that we don't have a good one at the position instead of him. Its the same thing.
Should the Jets not blame Sanchez? He made the most big plays on their team, and he is their best QB. Is it his fault they don't have anyone better?
It doesn't matter who's fault it is, the Jets stink becuase of QB play.
Because there are 2 guys that are PRIMARILY responsible for the pass rush, the 2 DEs. Jones consistently got pressure, Ninkovich did not. The inside pass rush absolutely needs to be better, but the DEs are more critical and more impactful.
I give him credit. I think he should be the #4 LB and a backup DE and play a decent amount of snaps. What do you want me to do? Ignore that I watch him play and see a medicore player and praise that? I don't care about medicore guys getting better, i care about the team improving its weaknesses. You seem to feel Ninkovich is owed a job because he doesnt stink. I say he plays a crtical spot that we are lacking at, and we need to get someone better.
Then why settle?
Actually you agree with me but you feel bad saying negative things about the guy. So we agree we need to be better at LDE, and disagree that I call it a Ninkovich problem and you call it the lack of having someone better. Thats fair enough, its only semantics.
NFL 2012 AFC Championship Baltimore Ravens @ New England Patriots[Full Game] - YouTube
1st series:
1st play: run
2nd play: run
3rd play: screen pass where Ninkovich defends the screen, doesn't pass rush.
2nd series:
1st play: Ninkovich double teamed, dump off to Leach.
2nd play: run
3rd play: gets chipped by a TE and still beats the LT and forces the deep throw incomplete.
4th play: Ninkovich double teamed.
3rd series:
1st play: run
2nd play: run
3rd play: PA rollout, Ninkovich double teamed.
4th play: Ninkovich drops back in coverage.
4th series:
1st play: run
2nd play: Ninkovich double teamed.
3rd play: bumps Boldin off the line in the slot, wasn't pass rushing.
4th play: run
5th play: Ninkovich covers leach.
6th play: run
7th play: dump off to Pierce.
8th play: run
9th play: Ninkovich double teamed. Wilfork crushes Flacco.
Arrington still gets burnt for 25 yards.
10th play: run
11th play: run
12th play: run
5th series:
1st play: run
2nd play: run
3rd play: Ninkovich owns Mckinnie 1 on 1, sack.
6th series:
1st play: run
2nd play: Ninkovich forces the throw deep incomplete.
3rd play: Boldin beats
Cole 25 yards down the field in 3 seconds.
4th play: run
5th play: Ninkovich double teamed.
6th play: Ninkovich drops in coverage.
7th series:
1st play: PI dennard, quick pass.
2nd play: Ninkovich chips the TE and forces the throw.
3rd play: Ninkovich doubled. Pass was in 2 seconds.
4th play: Bad rush, incomplete deep.
5th play: Ninkovich chipped by TE. Francis forces the throw, Rice makes a hell of a play.
6th play: 5 yard slant to Smith on
Cole.
7th play: run
8th play: Ninkovich didn't rush.
9th play: Ninkovich doubled,
Cole owned by Boldin 15 yards.
10th play: Ninkovich doubled. 5 yard pass.
11th play: quick pass.
Gregory owned. TD
8th series:
1st play: screen pass.
2nd play: Some rush forced. Tory Smith 25 yards. Dennard was playing outside, where was the underneath help....
3rd play: offsides Ninkovich.
4th play: run
5th play: Quick deep shot to Smith. Great coverage by Dennard.
6th play: run
7th play: run
8th play: Ninkovich chips the TE and the RB.
9th play:
Cole beat by Boldin 9 yards.
10th play: run
11th play: blitz, jump ball to Boldin.
Gregory nowhere near the play, TD.
9th series:
1st play:
Arrington beat quick 20 yards by Smith.
2nd play: Ninkovich chipped by TE, Flacco scrambles on Scott's side.
3rd play:
Arrington beat 7 yard slant.
4th play: Blitz,
Cole beat 11 yards by Boldin, TD.
10th series:
1st play: Ninkovich forces rush, gets a ticky tack 1 yard sack.
2nd play: Ninkovich covers Rice.
3rd play: Ninkovich forces throw incomplete.
11th series:
1st play: run
2nd play: run
3rd play: run
4th play: run
5th play: run
6th play: run
7th play: run
8th play: run
9th play: run
12th series:
1st play: kneel
2nd play: kneel
Your claims on Ninkovich and the DL are unsubstantiated and invalid. Please stop.
Constantly double teamed, dropping in coverage, and delivers 5 pressures and 2 sacks. Flacco didn't have all day either. It was more like Cole, Arrington, and Gregory getting beat like a drum. Talib had 0 impact, our CBs are great!
Ninkovich says, have a nice day.