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    Good sign for the Patriots receiving corps: Julian Edelman, removed from PUP, is on the field for first time this training camp.
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    BB's remarks probably motivated him. Belichick on Edelman missing time: "He watches, goes to meetings, but can't participate in anything. It certainly doesn't put him ahead." Says Edes "has a lot of ground to make up."

    Dobson back from the dead today too!
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    Just saw that. Good news!

    If anyone's been paying attention, has Washington been taking the punt return duties to go along with kickoff return?
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    Edelman is one of the best punt returners in football, it's good to have him on the field again. He needs to stay healthy and be Amendola's backup. Amendola, Dobson, Boyce, Thomkins and Jenkins are ahead of him right now. Get to work Julian !
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    For now, just for now.

    It will always be there lurking for him, but I hope he lasts the season and earns himself a pay day.
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    The open question is whether Edelman can be counted on to be more than a punt returner. If not, In any case, I think that we need to keep five position receivers, given that our draftees are locks to make the roster. I am fine with using a roster spot for one of the best punt returners in the NFL.

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    Given the events of last season, and all the Edelman praise, Edelman should be WR2 the moment he steps on the field.
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    Given the quality of our other receivers, Edelman might indeed be the #2 WR the moment that he steps on the field.

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    Absolutely. I wasn't being facetious. Edelman started off last season as the WR2 in 2WR sets. Nothing's happened since the start of the offseason and the departure of Welker and Lloyd to change that, unless the team somehow feels that Jenkins (not likely) or Dobson (more likely, but there's still the whole rookie thing) has had some level of camp success enough to dethrone the reigning WR2.
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    Edelman needs to stay healthy...
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    I don't know if there is anyone who thinks Edelman is a bad punt returner. There are plenty of us who don't believe Edelman has shown the ability to adequately replace Welker's production but that makes perfect sense has he really hasn't shown that, but even with that said I and i would think pretty much everyone who has doubted him in that regard still want him to go out and have a great season, they could really use the production.
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    That #4 is according to PFR. According to the HOF link above, which is a bit out of date, Edelman will be the #1 PR of all time, at least for a while, if he gets 11 yards total on his first three returns. [Hester's average is now about 12.1.]
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    As an Edelman fan, I consider it absurd to think that Edelman can, or ever will, replace Welker's (receiving) production. That's simply not realistic. He needs to stay healthy, which he has never been able to do, to date. If he can do that, I believe between kick returns and receptions he can be a very valuable player on this team. But, it's a big if.
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    Edelman's comments after coming off the PUP list today: "Train's moving & I've got to catch up."
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    and this from Field Yates, "One more note on Julian Edelman: Early in practice, the quarterbacks and offensive skill players take part in a "pat-and-go" drill in which a quarterback pats the football, signaling for the skill player to run down the field before he arcs a throw to him. Tom Brady, perhaps as a preservation method, would throw to the first two receivers in line, then allow an assistant equipment manager to throw to the remaining receivers, except Edelman. Brady, who has always spoken highly of Edelman's work ethic, stepped up to throw to Edelman when he was up in the drill."
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    good...now can he stay healthy is the big ?
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    nah...just went by too fast....
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    As a rough approximation, I always assume people deserve at least the honor that is one level below what they achieve are awarded.

    So, since Edelman actually took quite a few snaps from Welker last season, I conclude that Edelman at least deserved to be serious competition to Welker for snaps.

    That ain't chopped liver.
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    Edelman had just 21 catches in 9 games.


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    It's a new season, though, so here's to a healthy Edelman getting a full 16 game season to show what he can do.
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    I agree with Deus. Edelman didn't do much last year--despite what some seem to think. That said though, he did show flashes and is obviously very talented with the ball in space.

    I think he's an excellent punt returner, and is definitely able to turn some bubble screens etc into nice gainers with his YAC abilities. He does have knowledge of the system of course, so it's good to have that. The thing I appreciate about him the most I think, is his ability to take over for Danny Amendola should he go down for any length of time. I am a firm believer that our bread and butter will still be utilization of the slot and the quick timing passes, so I'd feel a lot better about having Edelman on the squad to take over that role should it come down to it.

    It's pretty obvious that he lacks the proper tools to be an actual outside wide receiver, at least at this point in time; hopefully he can improve in that area because I do think that he offers some nice attributes that the team can take advantage of.

    I'd certainly feel much better if he were here this year, than if he were gone.
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    This team is not in a position to let offensive players who are familiar with the system and have actually produced on the field, in a variety of roles, go. If Edelman is healthy, he must stay.
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    Yeah I'd have to think that you're right, especially after losing another important cog in the machine in regards to AH.

    Of course Belichick is going to say that Edelman's severly behind, and I'm sure he's right to a degree, but I don't think his job is in jeopardy either.

    He still has to show that he can produce in the role of wide receiver though, especially with Belichick seeming to be fine with having some hungry rookies compete.
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    Edelman's role as punt returner is more important than as a WR. Amendola's production and odds of staying on the field increase if Edelman can handle those duties.

    Also, the clear decision to be big and physical at WR and TE to combat big corners and even bigger safeties, makes Edelman less essential in the passing game.

    Washington as Edelman as a tandem of specialists in the return game is impressive and versatile. Each can do other things on offense, and each will be valuable as "hands" players on on-sides kicks.

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