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    What does everyone think of the first round pick...i say meh. But at pick #19, in this particular draft, all the useful players were gone imo. Hopefully he can back up Rondo or play some 2.

    I wish Tony Allen could shoot a jumper.
     
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    MEH ... for me also Boxer.

    Seems like a decent pick ... problem is can he play defense enough to give rondo a decent breather on the bench?
     
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    there is no question he is an excellent defender...even better than Tony Allen right now. I was hoping for a big man, a rebounder to be specific, but you take what you can get and i guess before the injury, this guy was a lottery pick. All in all, he should be a great defender right away and gets to learn from Rondo...haha, i think i just talked myself into liking him
     
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    Well looks like he has no other binky competition right now.;)
     
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    #53 ... Luke 'SkyPlodder' Harangody ... can score and will not challenge Avery for binky status.

    6'7" and 240 pounds PF

    At the very least he could replace scal as our 'TWG' ... Token White Guy. :p

    We can pair him with Big baby and Pierce and have a retro 60's size front court.

    [​IMG]

     
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    We won't know for awhile whether this guy - or any guy drafted - is sticking with their team. There could be a good number of sign and trades - none of which can be announced until early July.

    Some teams that have a core of veterans on which to build might be more interested in a sign and trade for a free agent than a bevy of rookies - many of whom are freshmen coming out early to avoid a 2011 lockout.

    In short, while there's a lot of talent in this draft, much of the talent remains undeveloped and is @2 years away.

    With Bradley, if they keep him - by design or because a trade falls through - they at least have a strong energetic defender off the bench... kindof the Defensive version of Robinson... energy, defense but lacking in the other part of the game.

    Interesting that he's a shooting guard but everyone (including myself) sees him giving Rondo a break for 8 minutes a game... I guess that's what happens when you're a shooting guard who can't shoot. Hopefully he can dribble and direct an offense even if he can't put the ball in the hoop.
     
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    way to be a downer
     
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    I'm a bit surprised that some of the pundits are down on this guy - but I guess that's what pundits do

    He only averaged a double double his last 2 seasons in the Big East - not exactly the weakest conference in the NCAAs. More than 20 points and 10 sometimes 12 rebounds a game on average.

    We should keep in mind that if not for the influx of so many underclassmen in this draft a lot of second rounders would be going in the first round.

    So I'm hopeful that the Celts found a big guy to come off the bench in Harangody.
     
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    ya, i think he is a really good player...and played well in a great conf. I think he could be in the rotation next season...getting rebounds and whatnot.
     
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    Danny Ainge has shown for many years now that he's an excellent draft GM with a good eye for talent. This year was another great draft.

    Avery Bradley was the #1 rated HS senior a year ago, even above John Wall. He got stuck with a terrible coach at Texas who mis-utilized him, similar to why Rondo slipped in the draft to #21 after playing in Kentucky. At worst Bradley will be a better version of Tony Allen - a premiere lock down defender who looks for his own shot, but the thing is Bradley actually has a good jump shot (but is terrible at free throws). Bradley could eventually become the successor to Ray Allen in maybe 2 years and form a starting back court with Rondo.

    Harangody is probably Notre Dame's best power forward ever. He isn't that athletic and is slow, but he is very physical, isn't afraid to bang down low, and in my opinion has a better touch around the rim than Perkins. If he were 4 inches taller people would be a lot higher on him. He's got a little Barkley in him as a 6 foot 7 power forward who plays bigger than his height..
     
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    We know Bradley is an excellent defender - if he has an offensive game like you say - being misused by his Texas coach - that's a pretty big bonus. I think everyone acknowledges he only slid to #19 because of his ankle injury - a non-issue for Ainge since the Celts can give him all the rehab time he needs.

    Harangody is probably as slow as most people say - but that's OK... he won't keep up in a fast break, but Rondo doesn't need more than one or two outlet passes... what Rondo DOES need is someone to grab the rebound and get the fast break going - and that's what a strong but slow big man can do. While only 6-7, you don't grab 12 rebounds a game in the Big East by being a wallflower, so he clearly plays above his height.

    His 20 points a game doesn't necessarilly translate to the NBA, but what it does mean is that he doesn't screw up the shots he gets beneath the boards (which a lot of NBA players often do). If he gets time to grab offensive rebounds he'll put his fair share back in the basket.

    All in all a very good draft IMO.
     
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    i am not really well versed in NBA cap situations...but is there any way we can Al Jefferson. Creative salaries, future draft picks etc.

    Any way at all????
     
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    Meh is a great way to describe the Celtics draft. Bradley has talent. Like another poster said, he was rated as big time a HS prospect as John Wall was, prior to last year. They were Prospects 1A & 1B basically. Still, he was less than mediocre compared to Wall as a freshman, system or no system. At #19 it's a crap shoot, so taking the player you view to have the most talent, is fine by me. He's not particularly tall, but does have an above average wingspan for his size. Height isn't as important as wingspan IMO. You don't defend someone with the top of your head, you do so with the tips of your hands. Time will tell with this kid. Not a need position, but the BPA in Danny's eyes.

    Harangody, or whatever his name is....meh. A 6'7 PF who can't jump, and has short arms. Don't we already have one of those? It's pick #52, so a warm body is about all you can expect. He could serve as a decent role player off the bench.

    I was hoping someone like Xavier Henry, or Luke Babbit would slip to the C's somehow. Oh well.
     
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    I agree with you on the Bradley pick but Harangody should be a solid contributor.....I am sure you are talking about Big Baby as a comparison....The thing is that Baby was our best rebounder in the playoffs and makes the hustle plays just like harangody does.....Luke is a better offensive player in my opinion......I would rather have smaller guys that hustle and do the little things like diving for balls then bigger guys that just stand flat footed and expect to get the rebounds.....
     
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    i think Harangody=Big Baby Davis.
     

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