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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.iwonderwhyyoutypedthisyoualreadyknowwhatyouthinkandifyouwanttoinformotherswhymakeithardtoreadwhensimplyhittingtheparagraphreturnwhenyouchangethoughtsoreveryfewlinesorsoImeanwhybothertypingallthisstuffwhenitisimpossibletoreadasisobviouslyyouareinterestedinbeingreadoryouwouldn’thavegonethroughtheworkofpostingallthisi’dbeinterestedinyourreasonsfornotmakingthepostreadableitisespeciallyhumorousthatyoutitledthispiecetheartofseparationandthenprovidednoseparationThe Art of Separation:Apologies for my extended absence. In my prior posts, I focused on the defense by position with observations from last Sunday's practice. I offer my condolences in advance to the apologists for Messrs. Jackson and Maroney. My starting hypothesis, oft stated by BB and frequently ignored by posters on this board, is that BB looks for two elements in his pass catchers--(A) the ability to "get open," and (B) the ability to catch. The focus of this post is on element A. It is notable in BB's prescription that there is no mention of height, body type, speed or musculature. The practice I observed included two segments bearing directly on this issue. The first was a one on one drill featuring linebackers (plus the proposed SS transferee-Tank Williams) head to head against TEs and RBs. The pass catchers in this drill were not assigned a specific route. Rather, they were instructed to "get open" in any way they saw fit. The second segment consisted of repeated full field 2 minute drives by the 1s and 2s against the D's 1s and 2s. In the first drill, the pass catcher whose ability to "get open" most impressed me was LaMont Jordan. His steps were precise; his cuts were sharp; and he did not hesitate or reset his feet to make the catch. Conversely, Lawrence Maloney rounded his cuts; displayed no ability to juke; and no ability to use the defender's momentum against him. He is overly muscled and lacks the grace and balance to adjust to the ball without stopping or slowing his forward progress. In simple terms, Lamont has the knack necessary to gain separation. Maroney quite simply does not. Maroney is faster, stronger (I think), and has the more Adonis-like physique. Lamont has the agility, the cutting skill, the instinctual feel for setting up the D back and the ability to adjust to the ball without loss of momentum, that Maroney simply lacks. In short, I believe BB's persistance on picking up a running back, including his flirtation with Kevin Jones and the eventual signing of Lamont, arose from BB's continuing dissatisfaction with Maroney as a pass catcher. My purpose here is not to bash Mr. Maroney. He will receive the bulk of the load in the running game. He will catch 20 passes on the season of the swing and screen variety. My speculation, however, is that you will see a double dose of catches by pass catching running backs as the defensive backs double up on Moss and Welker. You may also see a two back set with Jordan and Faulk split behind Brady. In short, no linebacker can cover Faulk or Jordan for long. BB will exploit those mismatches as defenses scheme to defend last year's offense. My comments on the TEs from this drill follow. Neither Stupar nor Spach have the athleticsm or agility to separate. Conversely, Marcus Pollard is a talent in the short and mid-ranges. He set up his defender in each rep using the misstep or momentum of the defender to create separation. He is not fast and cannot split a zone but in man coverage displayed a remakable talent to free up. Watson for all his drops separated fom the linebackers easily with a variety of secondary moves and quickness. This drill tested the RBs and TEs on BB's first criteria. Can you get open? Among the RBs, Jordan stood out in one direction, Maroney in the other. On the TEs,Watson and Pollard stood out, Thomas was absent, Spach and Stupar were not competitive in this drill. The second drill of note was the two minute offense. I did not watch the QBs. I did not watch the OL. I did not watch the ball! I watched the WRs for forty minutes. The verdict was clear. Gaffney separates easily with sharp cuts, timing, and a talent at making another move if the initial play breaks down. Chad Jackson could not separate from the defensive backs on the outside or deep. He appeared most comfortable dragging or slanting across the middle on short routes. Is he fast? Yes. Can he catch? Yes. He made the best catch of the night on a badly thown ball behind him and low, that required extraordinary athleticism. Can he separate? No. Can he get open? The answer is decidedly No. The notion that Brady lacks comfort with Chad Jackson is a Red Herring. He doesn't throw to him because he is not open. Brady throws to the open man. He will fail in the NFL not because he is immature, oft-injured or can't understand the playbook. He will fail because for all his speed and musclature, he cannot gain separation on a consistant basis. Moss opens up easily on deep routes, slants, and on the sideline. His most remarkable talent is his God-given, age independant sense of where the deep ball will settle to earth. He locates those coordinates immediately and well before any D back, uses his stride to beat the defender to the spot and then uses his frame and hands legally to prevent the D back from reversing his initial advantage. In short, I believe Randy's success demonstrated repeatedly on this evening is his guidance system. Think of Wes Unseld or Paul Silas. The great offensive rebounders in NBA history are those that could first identify the probable location of the carom. Unseld and Silas were undersized with minimal vertical lift. They simply knew a split second before the more athletic players in the NBA where the roundball would end up. Randy has the same God-given guidance system. He ran four routes into the end zone on this evening. Two were easy touchdowns where he adjusted to the ball a full second before Wheatley and and then simply used his height and reach to prevent the rookie from catching up. Wheatley broke up two other end zone shots-one with his hands and one with a hit. In the latter two instances, his guidance system gave him the edge but Wheatley reversed the advantage, with a break-up in one instance and a pop in the other when Randy did not fully extend or box out for the rebound.
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The Art of Separation:Apologies for my extended absence. In my prior posts, I focused on the defense by position with observations from last Sunday's practice. I offer my condolences in advance to the apologists for Messrs. Jackson and Maroney. My starting hypothesis, oft stated by BB and frequently ignored by posters on this board, is that BB looks for two elements in his pass catchers--(A) the ability to "get open," and (B) the ability to catch. The focus of this post is on element A. It is notable in BB's prescription that there is no mention of height, body type, speed or musculature. The practice I observed included two segments bearing directly on this issue. The first was a one on one drill featuring linebackers (plus the proposed SS transferee-Tank Williams) head to head against TEs and RBs. The pass catchers in this drill were not assigned a specific route. Rather, they were instructed to "get open" in any way they saw fit. The second segment consisted of repeated full field 2 minute drives by the 1s and 2s against the D's 1s and 2s. In the first drill, the pass catcher whose ability to "get open" most impressed me was LaMont Jordan. His steps were precise; his cuts were sharp; and he did not hesitate or reset his feet to make the catch. Conversely, Lawrence Maloney rounded his cuts; displayed no ability to juke; and no ability to use the defender's momentum against him. He is overly muscled and lacks the grace and balance to adjust to the ball without stopping or slowing his forward progress. In simple terms, Lamont has the knack necessary to gain separation. Maroney quite simply does not. Maroney is faster, stronger (I think), and has the more Adonis-like physique. Lamont has the agility, the cutting skill, the instinctual feel for setting up the D back and the ability to adjust to the ball without loss of momentum, that Maroney simply lacks. In short, I believe BB's persistance on picking up a running back, including his flirtation with Kevin Jones and the eventual signing of Lamont, arose from BB's continuing dissatisfaction with Maroney as a pass catcher. My purpose here is not to bash Mr. Maroney. He will receive the bulk of the load in the running game. He will catch 20 passes on the season of the swing and screen variety. My speculation, however, is that you will see a double dose of catches by pass catching running backs as the defensive backs double up on Moss and Welker. You may also see a two back set with Jordan and Faulk split behind Brady. In short, no linebacker can cover Faulk or Jordan for long. BB will exploit those mismatches as defenses scheme to defend last year's offense. My comments on the TEs from this drill follow. Neither Stupar nor Spach have the athleticsm or agility to separate. Conversely, Marcus Pollard is a talent in the short and mid-ranges. He set up his defender in each rep using the misstep or momentum of the defender to create separation. He is not fast and cannot split a zone but in man coverage displayed a remakable talent to free up. Watson for all his drops separated fom the linebackers easily with a variety of secondary moves and quickness. This drill tested the RBs and TEs on BB's first criteria. Can you get open? Among the RBs, Jordan stood out in one direction, Maroney in the other. On the TEs,Watson and Pollard stood out, Thomas was absent, Spach and Stupar were not competitive in this drill. The second drill of note was the two minute offense. I did not watch the QBs. I did not watch the OL. I did not watch the ball! I watched the WRs for forty minutes. The verdict was clear. Gaffney separates easily with sharp cuts, timing, and a talent at making another move if the initial play breaks down. Chad Jackson could not separate from the defensive backs on the outside or deep. He appeared most comfortable dragging or slanting across the middle on short routes. Is he fast? Yes. Can he catch? Yes. He made the best catch of the night on a badly thown ball behind him and low, that required extraordinary athleticism. Can he separate? No. Can he get open? The answer is decidedly No. The notion that Brady lacks comfort with Chad Jackson is a Red Herring. He doesn't throw to him because he is not open. Brady throws to the open man. He will fail in the NFL not because he is immature, oft-injured or can't understand the playbook. He will fail because for all his speed and musclature, he cannot gain separation on a consistant basis. Moss opens up easily on deep routes, slants, and on the sideline. His most remarkable talent is his God-given, age independant sense of where the deep ball will settle to earth. He locates those coordinates immediately and well before any D back, uses his stride to beat the defender to the spot and then uses his frame and hands legally to prevent the D back from reversing his initial advantage. In short, I believe Randy's success demonstrated repeatedly on this evening is his guidance system. Think of Wes Unseld or Paul Silas. The great offensive rebounders in NBA history are those that could first identify the probable location of the carom. Unseld and Silas were undersized with minimal vertical lift. They simply knew a split second before the more athletic players in the NBA where the roundball would end up. Randy has the same God-given guidance system. He ran four routes into the end zone on this evening. Two were easy touchdowns where he adjusted to the ball a full second before Wheatley and and then simply used his height and reach to prevent the rookie from catching up. Wheatley broke up two other end zone shots-one with his hands and one with a hit. In the latter two instances, his guidance system gave him the edge but Wheatley reversed the advantage, with a break-up in one instance and a pop in the other when Randy did not fully extend or box out for the rebound.
Respectfully submitted, The DookFish
P.S. The DookFish and the BeanFish return to camp tomorrow. The MookFish and the ZookFish are out of town and are unable to attend.
Love the observations. Lots of detail that you don't get anywhere else. The conclusions...not so much. Too many absolutes and "God-given talent" analysis.
Gaining separation is critical and as you mention, Maroney and CJack don't seem to have this down. This skill isn't instinctual or God-given. It is learned through hard work and repetition. Gaffney has been very productive, but he has really had to work to get to this point.
Maroney has never been asked to apply this skill. He only runs the screen/swing routes that you mention...where the real skill isn't getting open but securing the ball and navigating in space (where he is tremendous IMO). I would love to see him acquire these skills over time so he can stay on the field more as Faulk starts to lose a step. Not worried at this point. Don't see how Jordan applies in this situation since Faulk is the player most closely related to the role/responsibility you mention, not Maroney.
CJack is a different story. His job description most definitely requires him to gain separation. If he isn't doing it, it isn't because he is unable. It means he isn't applying the coaching he is receiving when he gets the chance on the field. Your report isn't encouraging but I would like to see him in a game situation before passing judgement. If he doesn't get on the field with the 1's, it is likely the coaches are seeing the same things that you are. If he gets on the field and isn't seeing the ball, it probably means that he isn't giving Brady a target he feels comfortable throwing to. No excuses for that at this point and unfortunately that may signal the beginning of the end for his time as a Patriot.
I really like your points about the finer aspects of receiving that generally lead to success. I still have high hopes that Maroney will play a larger part in the passing game (though likely still on screens and swing passes) and that CJack will put in the work to learn and apply these details like Gaffney and Welker have done so well. I think it is premature to say that Maroney can never run routes downfield or that CJack will fail in the NFL, especially since neither of them has seen their 24th birthday yet.
The Art of Separation:Apologies for my extended absence. In my prior posts, I focused on the defense by position with observations from last Sunday's practice. I offer my condolences in advance to the apologists for Messrs. Jackson and Maroney.
My starting hypothesis, oft stated by BB and frequently ignored by posters on this board, is that BB looks for two elements in his pass catchers--(A) the ability to "get open," and (B) the ability to catch. The focus of this post is on element A. It is notable in BB's prescription that there is no mention of height, body type, speed or musculature. The practice I observed included two segments bearing directly on this issue.
The first was a one on one drill featuring linebackers (plus the proposed SS transferee-Tank Williams) head to head against TEs and RBs. The pass catchers in this drill were not assigned a specific route. Rather, they were instructed to "get open" in any way they saw fit. The second segment consisted of repeated full field 2 minute drives by the 1s and 2s against the D's 1s and 2s.
In the first drill, the pass catcher whose ability to "get open" most impressed me was LaMont Jordan. His steps were precise; his cuts were sharp; and he did not hesitate or reset his feet to make the catch. Conversely, Lawrence Maloney rounded his cuts; displayed no ability to juke; and no ability to use the defender's momentum against him. He is overly muscled and lacks the grace and balance to adjust to the ball without stopping or slowing his forward progress. In simple terms, Lamont has the knack necessary to gain separation.
Maroney quite simply does not. Maroney is faster, stronger (I think), and has the more Adonis-like physique. Lamont has the agility, the cutting skill, the instinctual feel for setting up the D back and the ability to adjust to the ball without loss of momentum, that Maroney simply lacks. In short, I believe BB's persistance on picking up a running back, including his flirtation with Kevin Jones and the eventual signing of Lamont, arose from BB's continuing dissatisfaction with Maroney as a pass catcher.
My purpose here is not to bash Mr. Maroney. He will receive the bulk of the load in the running game. He will catch 20 passes on the season of the swing and screen variety. My speculation, however, is that you will see a double dose of catches by pass catching running backs as the defensive backs double up on Moss and Welker. You may also see a two back set with Jordan and Faulk split behind Brady.
In short, no linebacker can cover Faulk or Jordan for long. BB will exploit those mismatches as defenses scheme to defend last year's offense. My comments on the TEs from this drill follow. Neither Stupar nor Spach have the athleticsm or agility to separate.
Conversely, Marcus Pollard is a talent in the short and mid-ranges. He set up his defender in each rep using the misstep or momentum of the defender to create separation. He is not fast and cannot split a zone but in man coverage displayed a remakable talent to free up. Watson for all his drops separated fom the linebackers easily with a variety of secondary moves and quickness.
This drill tested the RBs and TEs on BB's first criteria. Can you get open? Among the RBs, Jordan stood out in one direction, Maroney in the other. On the TEs, Watson and Pollard stood out, Thomas was absent, Spach and Stupar were not competitive in this drill.
The second drill of note was the two minute offense. I did not watch the QBs. I did not watch the OL. I did not watch the ball! I watched the WRs for forty minutes. The verdict was clear. Gaffney separates easily with sharp cuts, timing, and a talent at making another move if the initial play breaks down.
Chad Jackson could not separate from the defensive backs on the outside or deep. He appeared most comfortable dragging or slanting across the middle on short routes. Is he fast? Yes. Can he catch? Yes. He made the best catch of the night on a badly thown ball behind him and low, that required extraordinary athleticism. Can he separate? No. Can he get open? The answer is decidedly No. The notion that Brady lacks comfort with Chad Jackson is a Red Herring. He doesn't throw to him because he is not open. Brady throws to the open man. He will fail in the NFL not because he is immature, oft-injured or can't understand the playbook. He will fail because for all his speed and musclature, he cannot gain separation on a consistant basis.
Moss opens up easily on deep routes, slants, and on the sideline. His most remarkable talent is his God-given, age independant sense of where the deep ball will settle to earth. He locates those coordinates immediately and well before any D back, uses his stride to beat the defender to the spot and then uses his frame and hands legally to prevent the D back from reversing his initial advantage. In short, I believe Randy's success demonstrated repeatedly on this evening is his guidance system.
Think of Wes Unseld or Paul Silas. The great offensive rebounders in NBA history are those that could first identify the probable location of the carom. Unseld and Silas were undersized with minimal vertical lift. They simply knew a split second before the more athletic players in the NBA where the roundball would end up. Randy has the same God-given guidance system. He ran four routes into the end zone on this evening. Two were easy touchdowns where he adjusted to the ball a full second before Wheatley and and then simply used his height and reach to prevent the rookie from catching up. Wheatley broke up two other end zone shots-one with his hands and one with a hit. In the latter two instances, his guidance system gave him the edge but Wheatley reversed the advantage, with a break-up in one instance and a pop in the other when Randy did not fully extend or box out for the rebound.
Respectfully submitted, The DookFish
P.S. The DookFish and the BeanFish return to camp tomorrow. The MookFish and the ZookFish are out of town and are unable to attend.
Fixed it for spacecrime and others that are looking for more separation.
Not so. Back in '05, Box_O_Rocks and Pats1 would break down games and I would run it through a custom Word macro and edit the results for posting here. OTOH, their typography wasn't the issue. Just a lot of complicated stuff.How great !
Dookfish thereby becomes the first poster on this board
whose typography is so bad, while his analysis is so good ...
that he earns his own dedicated editor.
Not so. Back in '05, Box_O_Rocks and Pats1 would break down games and I would run it through a custom Word macro and edit the results for posting here. OTOH, their typography wasn't the issue. Just a lot of complicated stuff.
Marcus Pollard is a talent in the short and mid-ranges. He set up his defender in each rep using the misstep or momentum of the defender to create separation. He is not fast and cannot split a zone but in man coverage displayed a remakable talent to free up.
Like Charlie Chaplain, silent film pioneer, paving the way for a new generation in talkies - Dookfish is the new John Wayne, Beanfish must be the new Gabby Hayes.Not so. Back in '05, Box_O_Rocks and Pats1 would break down games and I would run it through a custom Word macro and edit the results for posting here. OTOH, their typography wasn't the issue. Just a lot of complicated stuff.
Dookfish you're killing us, man! Where are you? I get sucked in by your in-depth analysis since I can't attend camp myself (and cannot possibly note all the things you do) and you say you are coming back and then.... nothing!
Oh the humanity! Don't let the old ladies with their spacing complaints deter you! Please come back!!