Day 3 - Looking For Nothing

Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by mgteich, Apr 30, 2011.

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  1. mgteich

    mgteich Veteran Supporter

    Seriously, Belichick was clearly done with this draft when he traded 92 and 125 and chose not to pick for two full rounds (65-137). He did this right after drafting Ridley with this board available
    OG Rackley
    OG Moffit
    WR Hankerson
    WR Jerrigan
    DE Bailey
    DL Casey
    DL Eillis

    Clearly, Belichick was done with this draft. He took the best player on his board, Ridley, and traded out. Obviously Belichick knows more than we do about how these players would fit into our system and whether they would be upgrades over what we have.

    I'm fine with the assessment that Ridley was the best available for us at 74 and that there is higher value from a 2012 1st than what's left in this draft. So I don't EXPECT any player picked tommorrow or as a undrafted free agent to make the team.

    Obviously, Belichick might find a magic pick, but this is a poor draft. In other drafts, we found starters like Koppen late, so we'll see. Maybe we'll trade down a couple of times and fill our camp roster early since the lockout is in place again and no free agents will be available.

    The best I hope for is another trade into 2012, if anyone will bite.

    Or perhaps, upon a review tonight, Belichick will see the one player he wants and trade up to get him. After all, the two 5th's would get us into the mid 4th. Belichick did that once and then draft the OG he wanted that year: Ohrnberger.
  2. Ochmed Jones

    Ochmed Jones Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    If he stays offense then I think he could draft an OG and WR.

    If he goes defense, then he needs to look at a developmental OLB prospect and developmental DE.
  3. mgteich

    mgteich Veteran Supporter

    If we pick up an OG or OC who is good enough to make the team, I will be well-please with the day's picks. Fusco or one of the other centers is a possibilty, but they are likely no better then Wendell.

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  4. Sciz

    Sciz Supporter Supporter

    Bill hated this draft after 56. He wasted no time in getting Vereen, but reached for Ridley and then took Mallett, who I consider equivalent to a 2013 1st. He traded out of the 3rd and 4th altogether before that pick was even on the clock. The only thing I'm disappointed in about this draft is that Bill couldn't trade picks for vets. Otherwise, we would've seen a draft a lot like 2007.
  5. jeffbiologist

    jeffbiologist Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    There is a reason this sucks on so many levels.....the players. If BB is assumed to be the Guru of the draft or whatever, what is he doing turning his back on the draft at this point?? Especially considering we picked up TB in the 6th!!!! Imagine the players hoping to get drafted seeing BB walk away from the table! This is the same "master" of the draft that each year keeps rookie UDFAs!! I think we should pitch in and send BB on vacation with Cam Newton! The guy has lost it.......
  6. Wilfork#75

    Wilfork#75 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    If we could somehow get Romeus in round 5, or trade into round 4 for him I would start to feel a little better about this draft. There are still some solid players left on the board, but I don't think BB will have much interest.
  7. supafly

    supafly Supporter Supporter

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    Please do not take personal offense to this jeff, but this is just ridiculous on many levels.

    First of all, how do you know that he isn't going to find anyone in rds 4-7, UFDA's, or free agency (when it starts)?

    "This guy has lost it???".....REALLY??? He made it so we cannot lose. We have the same exact 2 firsts and 2 seconds next yr, so there is no risk at all. If some of these guys do not work out, we still have the picks next year, and did not lose much of anything. He stole Mallett, who was the #1 QB on our board, and projected to go in the first rd by many. He obviously has a rocket for an arm, likely the most sheer talent of all the QB's, and will get to sit and learn under the greatest QB of all time. He should instantly improve our depth at the position, b/c you never know what can happen. If not, he learns under Belichick and Brady.

    The RB situation is a lot better, we picked up a very tall CB with obvious first rd ties barring his injury last yr, and got a MONSTER OT to protect Brady, add depth to the OL, and give us leverage in the Light negotiations (if there even will be negotiations)

    You may not agree with it---but "This guy has lost it???" That's just short-sighted.


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    Chris Carter might be a good choice if he lasts onto round 5
  9. AzPatsFan

    AzPatsFan Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    The 5s, 6s, and 7s are good picks to look for interior OLinemen candidates. I'd still like to take a flyer on red-shirt Greg Romeus.
  10. supafly

    supafly Supporter Supporter

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    That is a great thought. I would love to take a shot on Romeus, and feel as though they have the perceived 'luxury' that we don't always have to do so. I think it's a low risk/high reward scenario, and would be quite pleased.
  11. MaineMan

    MaineMan 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Just reviewing the Contact List, there are still a lot of guys available there and several binkies for many of us.

    If I'm disappointed, it's in myself for having misread (yet again!) where BB is going with things. I'm working my way toward being intrigued.
  12. kurtinelson

    kurtinelson In the Starting Line-Up

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    This draft is a bummer for me because there will IMO be very little improvement in the team as a result of the positions we've drafted.

    Solder will need time to develop and will likely be a downgrade from Light for a year.

    Ras I Dowling is presumably the hier apparent of Merriweather, but is not likely to contribute much next year.

    Vereen - best pick of the draft IMO as far as addressing a need

    Riddley - I can't believe there wasn't an player who could fill a greater position of need here.

    Mallett - takes a position player off the roster for at least 1 year as the Pats will need to carry 3 QBs. Not sure what the end game is with Mallett - an eventual replacement for Brady or a trade chip in the future.
  13. letekro

    letekro In the Starting Line-Up

    In 2-3 years I think its even money whether Brady or Mallett is our starter. I'm not that thrilled about this draft from an instant gratification standpoint, but Mallett is the most talented QB the Pats have likely ever had and, with the coaching he has and will receive, will become the next franchise QB of the NFP.
  14. zimmy

    zimmy On the Game Day Roster

    I think there are a number of interesting players left who could be good additions to the team - especially on the lines.

    If we know anything from Bill's drafts it's that he likes to take developmental lineman (offensive and defensive) late in the draft - in recent years - Deaderick, Pryor, Welch, Ohrnberger etc so along those lines I look for perhaps the following

    Fusco, Jackson (Fresno St), Jason Kelce, Ryan Pugh

    There are still a number of OLB/elephant conversions that perhaps can go on the practice squad or sit on the roster and learn - Romeus, Ballard, Klug, Elmore, Albright etc

    Chris Carter could be a special team/ 3rd down impact rusher.

    And then of course the obligatory Tight End.
  15. patriotscpfc

    patriotscpfc Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Was just going to say Andrew Jackson, OL, Fresno State is the guy I think we're taking at some point to end this draft.
  16. manxman2601

    manxman2601 Pro Bowl Player

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    Any of:

    Brandon Bair
    Brandon Fusco
    Clint Boling
    Karl Klug
    Cliff Matthews
    Tandon Doss
    Mark Herzlich
    Greg Salas
    Cortez Allen

    would please me
  17. Seneschal2

    Seneschal2 In the Starting Line-Up

    Brothers and Sisters,

    Aren't all draft fans suppose to revel in the world of sleeper picks? Well then, this is day three (I think :confused:), and BB has found some gems who have made a difference for NE. So let us not anguish over who was or wasn't picked...instead let us give thanks for the opportunity to express thyself in posts, rants, vents, and columns (PfK), as we embark on this journey of free speech in search of everlasting the sometimes murky waters called the NFL draft. For it is this journey, in which true fulfillment is discovered.

    Peace be with you all... :bricks:
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2011
  18. Wilfork#75

    Wilfork#75 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Add in Greg Romeus, Deunta Williams, Edmond Gates, Terrence Tolliver, Virgil Green, Pernell McPhee, Pierre Allen, Ugo Chinasa, Greg Jones, DeAndre McDaniel, Robert Sands, Ahmad Black, Sam Acho, Lawrence Guy, David Carter, Cedric Thornton, Jerel Powe, Jeremy Beal, Jason Pinkston, Lee Ziemba, Nerek Newton, Willie Smith, David Mims and Marcus Cannon.

    There are a ton of really good players left in this draft that could help this team. If the next few rounds fall favorably we could end up with a pretty good haul of players.

    My sleeper for this draft is Adrian Taylor out of Oklahoma as a developmental NT. He would normally be an UDFA, but I would take him in the 7th because of the inability to sign UDFA's. He would redshirt for 2011 and bulk up, but he could be a good sleeper late in the draft. Once considered a potential 1st round pick, injuries have really derailed his career.
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  19. zgotts

    zgotts On the Roster

    Names I'm looking at:

    Christian Ballard DE
    Greg Romeus DE/OLB
    Sam Acho OLB
    KJ Wright OLB
    Chris Carter OLB (being trained by Willie McGinest)
    Marcus Cannon G/T
    Clint Boling G/T

    If we get 2 of these guys, I think this will turn out to be a GREAT draft.
  20. manxman2601

    manxman2601 Pro Bowl Player

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    A fine list, unfortunately Bailey, one of my favourites, went to the Chiefs in the third.
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