Tyler.Durden
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.For 2 weeks straight he has been horrible and a flag magnet. I thought he may have become someone and I'm trying not to be too reactionary but he has looked lost out there.
Any chance Shawn Springs may reappear anytime soon.
He found himself in a nightmare situation today where he obviously couldn't cover Edwards, and every pass seemed to be right on target. On a better team he would have been put at nickel back or gotten more help, but this defense cannot afford these luxuries. I don't think this guy will ever be a shutdown cornerback, but very few are.
Not that this is too positive, but there were no plays where athleticism was the problem. He has the speed and athletic abilities to stay with the WRs; he needs to learn when to turn his head.
BTW: Just a note on that last PI call. No way was that ball catchable, although he did interfere.
Edwards caught 5 passes for 45 yards. What do you expect a corner to hold a teams #1 receiver to?
The pass interference calls were not good calls. On the first one, he played it exactly right. The recevier stopping so he runs into him while playing the ball is not pi. The second was a foul, however should have been waived off because the pass was uncatchable, well over the recievers head.
So he let up more passes than were caught?Dude, Butler is the weal axx link. Wake up.
No amount of stats is going to change that. Listen to those of us that follow the Pats religiously and heed what we are saying for once?
Dude, Butler is the weal axx link. Wake up.
No amount of stats is going to change that. Listen to those of us that follow the Pats religiously and heed what we are saying for once?
Any chance Shawn Springs may reappear anytime soon.
He wasn't great, but its just crazy to say a guy letting up 5 catches for 45 yards sucked. That is just way, way too high of an expectation for a corner.He was today, but look around the NFL and see how many corners are burned one week and look great the next. I wouldn't say he's the weak link, although he was terrible today. There are shutdown corners, who are extremely few and far between (they rarely let up big plays), and then there are good corners who still get burned a lot (the NFL is such a passing league now.) I think delusions of Butler being Revis or Woodson-like are evaporating, but he still may be a good cornerback. Ty Law and Asante Samuel were not great for a few years.
So he let up more passes than were caught?
It isnt a matter of stats, its a matter of saying he couldn't cover the guy who caught passes for fewer yards than a #1 WR typically does.
Are you saying Edwards had a tremendous game?
WRs catch passes, corners let up receptions. The average team throws for more than 200 yards each game. Corners allow completions. 5 is not a lot.
He wasn't great, but its just crazy to say a guy letting up 5 catches for 45 yards sucked. That is just way, way too high of an expectation for a corner.
Do you expect a corner to never allow a catch?
He wasn't great, but its just crazy to say a guy letting up 5 catches for 45 yards sucked. That is just way, way too high of an expectation for a corner.
Do you expect a corner to never allow a catch?
They arent my stats.NE lost and your stats suck.
I consider terrible game and sucked to be about the same thing.Jeeez...I thought I was being pretty kind in talking about Butler. You are still stuck on the 45 yards thing. We get it. On paper, it wasn't the worst game. If he didn't play badly, why did he go on Twitter with a mea culpa comment? Come on, Butler was not very good today. Last week he allowed 150 yards to Chad O. Does that mean he got torched? No, because again the stats are deceiving. Most of those yards were in zone coverage and in garbage time. You see, if you want to live and die by the stats, you live and die by the stats. DB did not play well today and that was obvious to anyone watching the game. Also, I did not say he sucked, I said he had a terrible game. I think he'll emerge as a solid cornerback, but today was not good.