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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.This was my initial reaction to the Chung pick as well. I liked Chung, but he was clearly taken way too early. Think about, this is what we got out of trading Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. Not too impressive if you ask me.We probably did take Chung a little early but I think we might have panicked a little when we saw Delmas taken with the first pick in the 2nd round, so we wanted to make sure we got a good prospect at safety.
If Tate comes back healthy and at 100%, he is worth a first round pick. The question was, is, and shall be his health.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's career is done. You shred both knees in the last two years? This guy has his work cut out for him. I don't expect him to do anything for the Pats.If Tate comes back healthy and at 100%, he is worth a first round pick. The question was, is, and shall be his health.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's career is done. You shred both knees in the last two years? This guy has his work cut out for him. I don't expect him to do anything for the Pats.
However, it's funny how their biggest reach of the draft (Vollmer) will probably turn out to be their best pick.
This was my initial reaction to the Chung pick as well. I liked Chung, but he was clearly taken way too early. Think about, this is what we got out of trading Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. Not too impressive if you ask me.
I've said it before and I will say it again and again until they prove me wrong, this was a terrible draft. The Pats needed impact players on defense this season if they wanted any chance of winning a super bowl in 2009. They currently have zero out of the 2009 draft. If the Pats do lose in the post season, it will be because of this reason. There were a ton of difference makers on defense that they could've had but passed up on them because they're so hung up on their "system".
However, it's funny how their biggest reach of the draft (Vollmer) will probably turn out to be their best pick.
I was screaming Maualuga when the Pats had their first pick in the 2nd round. I watched him play every game at USC and thought he would've been the perfect complement to Mayo and Guyton. Maualuga was a great hard hitting- run stuffing ILB for the Trojans.I was high on Maualuga going into the draft and wanted to take him with that Chung pick.
Listen, I'm speaking as though I assume everybody here wants the Pats to win a super bowl with Tom Brady, Moss and others. If you want to see them win a super bowl "now", they don't have time to draft these raw "developmental" players. They just don't have time to play these games. That is why I'm so critical with these drafts. If the Pats didn't have a future Hall of Fame QB and WR, I wouldn't be so critical because my expectations wouldn't be so high.I have rarely disagreed more strongly with a post than I do with yours.
You measure this draft on whether we secured defensive players that had significant impacts in their rookie year. I believe that drafts are for the future and that any rookie impact with a player picked after pick 15 is a bonus.
I hope for some rookie contributions and I think that we have had that from Butler, Chung, Edelman, Ingam, and Pryor.
I was screaming Maualuga when the Pats had their first pick in the 2nd round. I watched him play every game at USC and thought he would've been the perfect complement to Mayo and Guyton. Maualuga was a great hard hitting- run stuffing ILB for the Trojans.
Listen, I'm speaking as though I assume everybody here wants the Pats to win a super bowl with Tom Brady, Moss and others. If you want to see them win a super bowl "now", they don't have time to draft these raw "developmental" players. They just don't have time to play these games. That is why I'm so critical with these drafts. If the Pats didn't have a future Hall of Fame QB and WR, I wouldn't be so critical because my expectations wouldn't be so high.
I still can't get over how great of a pick that was. When they drafted him I was like who the hell is that? Great find by BB and the scouting department.
And I agree, losing Cassel and Vrabel for Chung isn't the type of trade off you hope for. I think Chung will definitely be an impact player for us, but Cassel had a lot of value after last year and Vrabel was a leader of our defense even though he was old and on the decline.
I'm not saying throw all your eggs in one basket, I'm just saying to draft better. There were a ton of impact players on defense that the Pats didn't have to trade up for or could've got the player they wanted for very little.Well, for better or for worse, the Patriots' mission statement is to "consistently compete for championships." As much as you might like to maximize the chances of winning "now," and let the future be damned, the Patriots don't see it that way.
Cassel could have had more value, but the tradeoff that Belichick made was to free up salary cap room in exchange for lower draft picks.
Is it possible that the Patriots could have gotten a first for Cassel? Sure. But is the difference between what the Pats got and what the Pats could have had more than what they would have lost from not signing Bodden, Taylor, etc.?
This was my initial reaction to the Chung pick as well. I liked Chung, but he was clearly taken way too early. Think about, this is what we got out of trading Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. Not too impressive if you ask me.
I've said it before and I will say it again and again until they prove me wrong, this was a terrible draft. The Pats needed impact players on defense this season if they wanted any chance of winning a super bowl in 2009. They currently have zero out of the 2009 draft. If the Pats do lose in the post season, it will be because of this reason. There were a ton of difference makers on defense that they could've had but passed up on them because they're so hung up on their "system".
However, it's funny how their biggest reach of the draft (Vollmer) will probably turn out to be their best pick.
I'm not saying throw all your eggs in one basket, I'm just saying to draft better. There were a ton of impact players on defense that the Pats didn't have to trade up for or could've got the player they wanted for very little.
I have rarely disagreed more strongly with a post than I do with yours.
You measure this draft on whether we secured defensive players that had significant impacts in their rookie year. I believe that drafts are for the future and that any rookie impact with a player picked after pick 15 is a bonus.
I hope for some rookie contributions and I think that we have had that from Butler, Chung, Edelman, Ingam, and Pryor.