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  1. Pattie

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    you-know-what. The Patriot's have fallen on hard times? Huh? 2-0 and that's hard times? Do they have areas they need to work on? Absolutely, Brady has to get comfortable and get his timing down pat with his new corps of receivers. As Belichick said they need to practice consistency because you can't keep having one good half and one bad and expect to beat the best teams. Let downs aren't acceptable and I'm sure Belichick is going to pound that this week before Denver comes to town. But...there were some very positive signs as well. Chad Jackson? Looks to be very good once he's in the groove with Brady. I didn't think we'd see the kid until Christmas. Bruschi was back cast and all and doing a great job. Harrison is back there directing traffic as he should be. The D-Line is working it. Every game they should get better, more polished and their schedule won't be the killer that last year's was. All in all a lot of positives but, of course, Borges has to state the Apocolypse is at hand. All last week we heard shrieks of dismay that we had no WR's and then, like a rabbit out of a hat, Jackson appears. Do you suppose Belichick was smirking in his office as talk radio blabbed on and on about their perceived weaknesses? Come on, let's take one game at a time and try not to over react every time the media tries to create some "disaster of the week". Belichick certainly doesn't. And, relating to nothing else in this thread how many doughnuts has Mangini been eating lately? He looked enormous!:eek:
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    Actually BB, Dean Peas, Josh McDaniel and Jonathan Kraft enjoy sitting around at lunchtime calling the Whiner Line on WEEI and using assumed names/voices. They laugh at their jokes so hard, they have to change their pants. Then they go back to work for the rest of the day on their disastrous 2-0 team.
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    I almost had to change my pants after imagining that scenario!
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    Belichick as "mumbles Menino" on the whiner line. Now that would appeal to his sense of humor. I've got to say though that I was shocked to see Chad Jackson out there on Sunday. There'd been no hint from Belichick that we'd *ever* see him again but that's all part of his plan. Don't give away anything to the opponent--and he didn't despite the crocodile tears of the media since Deion moved on.:rolleyes:
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    I love how he puts little comments like this :

    "including a 6-yard completion to Reche Caldwell on a third and 5 when Brady changed Caldwell's route at the line of scrimmage after realizing the one called would have been fruitless."

    That are, on the surface, positive but really a weak attempt to take any credit away from his hated beast, Belichick, and his staff.
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    borges isnt worse talking about hes an idiot and the more you talk about him he wins
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    Considering what some of the resident critics here are spewing today I think Ron turned in one of his better efforts and the best read on where this team is as of any of the Boston mediots. He credited their win on the system. Tough, resiliant, gritty plays made by smart players just being professionals and doing their job.


    "But what was important yesterday was not how the week began but how it ended. It ended in what has become a Patriot trademark, a gritty 24-17 victory over the scrappy New York Jets that came only because New England's players did for the second week in a row what they do best. They refused to buckle."

    "But the fact remains that even with all the doubt that seems to have encircled this team at the moment, it is still 2-0, winner of two exceedingly close games in the face of off-field distractions and on-field worries. Last week it was done primarily with defense. This weekend it was the offense that twice did what it needed to do at critical moments. It turned a botched 10-yard punt by the Jets' Ben Graham just before halftime into a 50-yard touchdown drive in the final 47 seconds for what would prove to be the most critical points scored all day, and then launched a final drive at the end of the game that put the Jets in a vise they could not escape."

    "New York scored three straight times to make a game of it, only to then watch helplessly as New England's offense took over the ball with 9:20 to play and held it for 8:15 before rookie kicker Stephen Gostkowski's 29-yard field goal that would have put the game away was blocked with 1:05 left on the clock.

    "This was not an ideal situation, but its severity had been lessened by two things -- the offense had eaten up most of the clock and all of the Jets' remaining timeouts, having forced them to use all three by converting three third downs by a yard each time. That is not perfection, but it is what Ernest Hemingway would call grace under pressure. Boxing trainer Eddie Futch would have called it simply being a professional."

    "Then, after Gostkowski's field goal attempt was blocked, it was the defense's chance to react in similarly intelligent fashion. It did not bemoan a missed kick, nor quiver at the realization that the Jets had scored the last three times they had the ball. No one kicked the dirt, or each other. Instead, they focused on the only thing they had control over. The situation they were in."

    ``What we do a good job of is staying in the moment," said Bruschi, who ended the moment with his leaping interception as time was running out. ``We're in the huddle recapping the situation. We knew what the situation was. Nobody was let down. We've learned to expect everything, so all we said was, `What's the situation now? How long do they have to go?'

    ``You can't panic. You can't say, `They should have made that kick.' You have to expect everything and move on. You can't dwell on what could have been. You deal with what's right now."


    What's right now is that they are 2-0 and lead the AFC East by a game. What's right now is they have troubles, some caused by personnel decisions over which these players had no control, and so they put them out of their mind and move on to what they do have control over -- themselves.

    Time will tell if guts and smarts can produce glory, but for now they have produced a 2-0 record. Even with all their problems and with all the doubt that exists among them about the parts they are missing, that is all they could do for now. It is enough for the moment, and the moment, they understand, is all they have."

    ``Can we keep winning with all the talent we've lost? That's a good question. We'll find out. The one thing I do know is we're resilient. We'll see how things play out. We definitely have to play better, but you take it game by game and see where you are at the end."

    At the end of two weeks they're 2-0, which is as good as they could be even if they haven't yet been playing as well as they think they should be.

    ``You can't throw four years of offense at some new guys," Brady said. ``I'm trying to get used to the new guys. I'm trying to understand their strengths. They're getting used to me and the concepts of the offense. I don't think we have many [other] options, but at the end we found a way to complete pass after pass. That's the kind of execution we need. We needed a big drive at that time. Those third-down routes were big. We needed them."

    And they got them. Got them by a slim margin but they got them. Like Matt Chatham, who now has been on both sides of this kind of game, said. Tough. Physical. Smart. Smart enough to beat the Jets, at least, which was as smart as they had to be on this Sunday afternoon."


    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2006/09/18/moving_forward_smartly/
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    My favorite part of the article was:

    “What’s right now is that they are 2-0 and lead the AFC East by a game. What’s right now is they have troubles, some caused by personnel decisions over which these players have no control, and so they put them out of their mind and move on to what they do have control over – themselves.â€

    “Some [troubles] are caused by personnel decisions†and others are, I assume are caused by the players not executing but Borges fails to actually mention this part of the issue. Hey Borges, if the Pats secondary could make a tackle then the Jets probably would have been scored 10, maybe 13. You want to rip the coaches AND the players for bad tackling then I have no issue with that but don’t make it sound like letting Branch and Givens and Adam go is what caused Hobbs and Wilson to wiff on some tackles. Hobbs and Wilson (and company) make the tackles they are suppose to and this is not even a game.
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    Oh come on, now you're picking hairs. Even the best coach can make a play call that, once the defense is read by the QB, is a disaster in the making. If anything, it's a credit to the coaching for teaching the QB how to do this. But I don't think this was any attempt to pick on BB or staff.

    I loathe Borges as much as anyone, but weak arguments like that don't paint a good picture of his critics.
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