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    This is the same penalty (or not, read edit below), essentially, Colvin was called for last night (which was unintentional in his case - he just misread the snap count and flinched -- Vrabel was also called for this in 2005 vs. the Bills):

    EDIT: I guess I should have read the story first. Colvin and Vrabel weren't calling out signals, they just flinched forward at the LOS.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7237126?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5

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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Belichick's fault.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Mangina will get ostracized before the end of this season. He's way in over his head. Need to concentrate coaching the Sesame Street characters.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Case #1 of how Mangini has irritated the NFL coaching ranks. This stuff goes on all the time too and for Billick to bring it up is no coincidence.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    For clarification pats1: Isn't Billick accusing the Jets defenders of the illegality? I don't understand the Colvin/Vrabel connection, then, if they just jumped after misreading the count.

    [Never mind--just saw your edit. I type slowly...]

    In any case, some spittle at the Jets is good.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this...but Billick calling out the Jets like that may be him calling them hypocrites and getting Belichick's back. Maybe he is one of the coaches that views Mangini as a rat now?
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Ahh week 2 and it's just begun Mr. Mangini. All your cheating, trying to gian an advantage ways will be exposed and you will look like the foolish, sore-losing prick that you are.

    "WAAAH, the patriots cheated, wahhhhhh dont look at me, waaaaaah"
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    For those who don't remember:

    Last night:

    2-8-SD 44 (2:00) PENALTY on NE-59-R.Colvin, Defensive Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at SD 44 - No Play.

    10/30/05:

    3-4-NE 43 (8:59) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NE-M.Vrabel, Defensive Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at NE 43 - No Play.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    At least its nice to see someone call out the Jets. Those bastards.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    I think they should take our other 1st round draft pick for that...seeing as Mangina learned that while working under Bill.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Simulating the snap count is illegal...

    Sounds like they should forfeit a #1 draft pick, pending investigation.
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    Billick saying Jets cheated now

    Brian Billick, the Ravens' head coach, claims the Jets cheated by yelling out signals to draw their offense offsides.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count

    Mangini has a target on his back. I am sure many coaches will be calling out everything he does that is questionable. Obviously this is not an offense that can warrant any punishment, but it will force the league to ask refs to be more aware of it and call more penalties on the Jets.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]

    Kudo's to Billick for bringing Mangina to task. This is just the first shot across his bow from a fellow coach and might also be putting the league office on notice that if they want to pursue matters, they better be looking at everything.

    I agree that more coaches who are ticked off at Ratgini will be bringing up problems with the Jesters at every opportunity.

    By the end of the year, Bellichick will be looking great and Mangina The Rat will be a laughingstock. Regardless of records and need of the game, the Pats won't be letting up when they meet the Jesters near the end of the year.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]

    Mangini is a turd, the rest of the league knows this, they will continue to rat him out on every little thing the Jets do illegal now.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]


    Just the beginning. Goddell has to be getting pretty pissed now

    Time to enforce:D
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]

    I did not really see what Colvin was called for. He flinched his arm and moved less than a pivoting lineman. It's not like he stomped a foot or something. Seemed like a very tight call.

    On a related topic, Rosie needs to watch out with the in-the-face trash talk -- he's going to draw a very untimely 15 yarder one of these days.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]

    Enforce what? Goodell can't even keep a tape under wraps.
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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]

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    Re: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count [merged]


    It was borderline but they have to call that. They don't have a slow-mo tape, they see it in real time amongst a ton of other things. And they can't judge his intent, his arms flinched and the offense flinched afterwards. By the book call, I think if he moved his feet trying to time the snap he doesnt get called
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