Belichick Takes High Road on Miami Getting Audio Tape

Discussion in ' - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Fanfrom1960, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. Fanfrom1960

    Fanfrom1960 In the Starting Line-Up

    ESPN said Bill said it was just good coaching. Trying to think of an NFL coach that would take the low road. Dennis Green? Nah.
  2. PatsWickedPissah

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    Same old, same old.
  3. Pujo

    Pujo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    And naturally, Bill Belichick is just too stupid to see all the things that you see with your tremendous insight, which explains why him and McDaniels are coaching the Patriots and you're giving out unsolicited advice on a football forum on everything from our offense to world politics.
  4. PrairiePat

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    Yeah, using a lot of no-huddle against a team that knew our audio calls would have been a great idea, Nem. :rolleyes:
  5. Michigan Dave

    Michigan Dave Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    The tape was what we thought it was?
  6. FinNasty23

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    The high road? It was just good coaching...

    I dont think there was a "low road" that he could have even taken...
  7. Fanfrom1960

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    You mean it is what it is? Isn't that Bill's quote, or is it the other Bill (Parcells)?
  8. PatsWickedPissah

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    BB is being consistent with his own behaviour. The Pats have found clever loopholes in the league rules and exploited them. For him to whine Colts style about an opponent clever enough to exploit the grey areas would be hypocracy. Good thinking by Saban et. al. Let's find a way to return the favor from a different perspective.
  9. TeamPats

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    If you want to crown them then go ahead and crown them
  10. BelichickFan

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    No that was "If you want to crown them then go ahead and crown their asses".

    That press conference ruled :)
  11. richpats

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    The personnel we have on offense (especially the players available last Sunday) does place limitations on what the coaches can call. We simply don't have the talent and experience in our receivers to pull off every play in the playbook or run any type of offense like we did in 2004. This is what happens when you have guys you trade for right before Week 1 or sign as a FA Week 6. Or if your #1 WR should be a #2 at best.

    The only surprise in Sunday's debacle was the decimation of the offensive line. New England has struggled offensively against the Fins forever, and it just so happens we had our worst group of backs/WR's out there since Brady took over at QB.

    My only gripe with our current OC is the trick play calls - they never work and it always seems to be done to make something happen on offense late in the game when we struggle to score.

    Overall I've been more encouraged by the offense than disappointed - if anyone remembers the Bears game we pretty much moved the ball at will on their dominant D and turnovers prevented us from blowing them away. Some games we come out and do anything we please on offense. When we struggle its usually against a team whose coach is very familiar with us.
  12. Pujo

    Pujo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Take your own advice, NEM. You, like all of us, are a nobody in the world of pro football, and for good reason. You aren't even qualified to sniff Belichick's crotch and you're trying to pretend you know the game better than him. You're a pretender.
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  13. mikiemo83

    mikiemo83 On the Game Day Roster

    the quality of WR means the world to selection of plays you can call - granted you can call anything at anytime but for it to be successfull you need the players who can exicute it. it you have slow wide-outs you can't stretch the field properly, the DB's will cheat up and challenge more because the recovery time is quicker and the chances of being burnt smaller.

    please reconcider that thought nem

    as for rotating, the basic defense was pressuring the Pats so it is a mute point
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  14. richpats

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    The 'adjustments' theory would be appropriate if the only consequences were positive and there were no risks in taking the chance of seeing if a play works or not. Just because a gameplan isn't working doesn't mean the adjusted calls will work any better- they typically have a lesser chance of success since the offense didn't work it into the initial gameplan.

    An adjusted playcall or offensive approach could put the Pats in a worse position than they were already in. Considering we were within 1 score most of the way, our tendency to turn the ball over and our terrible starting position most of the day, sticking with a conservative gameplan (while certainly not explosive by any means) kept Miami from getting an easy pick and blowing the game open earlier than they did. One reason Brady didn't have a pick all day is that there were not many chances taken in the passing game - he had 21 "short" throws out of 25 attempts.
  15. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member Supporter

    But how did they get our audio?

    Did they use sophisticated sound equipment to pick it from a previous game? If so, what game? They certainly would have needed more than one game you would think. Are teams working together against us? This seems a little mysterious, no?
  16. JoeSixPat

    JoeSixPat Pro Bowl Player

    I think BB actually admires a coach who does everything he can to give his team an advantage as long as its not breaking the rules.

    Of course, you can bet that Bill Polian will institute a rule banning that practice before the Dolphins play them next.
  17. Deus Irae

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    NEM, it's not personal. PrairiePat didn't insult you, but instead commented on your idea, whereas you got smarmy and personal in your retort. You simply don't know much about football from a nuts and bolts perspective, and everyone can see that on an almost post-by-post basis. Middle school players grasp things that you don't, such as simple things like the reality that not every play is going to be a winner. Other examples might include concepts of wearing down an opponent by repeatedly pounding them even if it doesn't work at first, and the realization that it's stupid to call passes with routes designed to go to waterbug-type receivers when you don't actually have waterbug-type receivers.

    Try using your head for a change instead of making it personal.;)
  18. mcbee

    mcbee Banned

    NEM you are completely correct. They are just ganging up on you b/c it seems to be the in thing around here.

    Anyway, of COURSE adjustments should be made. You're supposed to adjust to what they're doing. BB is supposedly famous for making really good "half-time" adjustments. AT least that's what Madden, Phil simms, etc. say.

    But what do they know.

    "But why does he make them at all, if there's a chance they MIGHT not work?". Brainless. You're losing in a shutout and you don't want to change your offensive strategy even a little bit, because it "might not work"? Just brilliant!

    The key is to adapt. Or maybe running Maroney into the pile 10-15 times a game for 10 yards total is the thing to do. Works so far.
  19. richpats

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    It's like you completely ignored the paragraph that explained HOW it could get worse - instead of being down 6-0 at half, it could be 13-0 or 20-0 because of plays that "you don't know will work or not" were called deep in our own territory and resulted in turnovers. I think they call that brand of playcalling "winging it" - just what the offense needs :rolleyes:

    One possibility you choose to ignore is that perhaps in some games the execution of our original gameplans have been sloppy on the whole, thus the plays don't have as much success.
  20. PatsWickedPissah

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    Great insight. You need to post more.

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