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Through the quarter point, this is not a good team. How do they get better?


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Deus has an unquenchable need to stroke his own ego, and he does so by pretending he is the voice of reason and logic, when in fact he is just being a contrarian. Imo he is just one of those people who like to argue for the sake of arguing in the belief that it somehow demonstrates how smart he is, when in truth it is more just a sign of how insecure he really is.

Damn......you'll stalk anyone
 
This team still has the ingredients to win a playoff game.....if not more
 
Although the record at this point in the season shows a mediocre team at 2-2, they have strongly benefitted from playing the Matt Cassel-led Vikings, who served up 4 INT's on a silver platter and were enveloped in controversy and the Raiders, led by a rookie quarterback who came up an ill fated turnover short of tying the game at the end of regulation on the road. If the team had, say, Denver's schedule to open the season, they would be 0-3. Last night, they were completely uncompetitive. It was the most pathetic "effort" I, personally, have seen out of this team since the San Diego game in 2005. So far, the coaching on both sides of the ball has been awful and the talent on the team is highly questionable. That said, how does it get better? I have a couple of thoughts...

OFFENSE:
1. Stick with last night's interior OL. They had some growing pains, that was to be expected. But, early on, they were giving Brady a very clean pocket to step up into. I think the interior of Connolly-Stork-Flemming may be the best that we can field this season and we should roll with it and let them develop some cohesion. Now Solder is a different question altogether. He's been getting exposed all season and last night was no different. I'm of the opinion that, right now, he's the best LT we can field and should be given more of a chance to work through his issues. But, holy **** man, he's been bad.

2. Activate Dobson and Thompkins. Why these two are consistently being deactivated is beyond me. By all reports, both are healthy. Dobson, in particular, possesses a skill set that most of our receivers do not. He can threaten between the numbers, down the seam, and outside the numbers. Activate the kid and let him build chemistry with Brady. The offense BADLY needs him to make that second year leap and he's not going to do that from the god damn press box. Thompkins, at this point, is also able to get better separation than Amendola. Speaking of, Amendola should be the one inactive in this offense. Somehow, some way, he looks slower than he did last year.

3. Spread teams out and hurry up. They've been by far at their most effective when they spread the opposing defense out and target their LB's and CB's in their quick strike passing game. I understand we have some younger faces trying to get up to speed, but huddling between snaps allows the defense time to substitute based on match-ups. I want to see the hurry up implemented this week. Put Cincy on their heels and force their hand.

DEFENSE:
1. Why in God's name are the Pats employing so much off coverage? Am I losing my mind, or did we not sign one of, if not THE, best press CB's of all time. Revis has a unique combination of strength and elite movement skills. If he presses his man, his man is usually done... forcing the quarterback to go elsewhere. But for some unknown reason, Belichick and Patricia have been employing a lot of off man and zone coverages which COMPLETELY defeat the entire purpose of having a guy like Revis on the squad. Starting pressing more. You have the corners to do it now and you have a near elite FS who can cover more ground than most safeties in the NFL.

2. Where are the exotic blitz packages? Where are the well disguised weak side overload blitzes that we used to see? Where are the safety blitzes? Where is the aggression? This defense, through four weeks, has employed the most conservative, bland defense that I could possibly imagine and the result is that semi-competent offenses can move the ball on us. The Chiefs got a defensive gameplan that I would expect for a team like the Eagles and Smith picked us apart as a reslut. You have to move guys like Smith off their spot or they will tear you up.

3. Figure out the other safety position now that Browner is back. The answer is not Chung, Harmon, or Wilson (nice coverage on Kelce last night, by the way). I wouldn't mind seeing Logan Ryan back there. He's much better with his head turned toward the play (like McCourty) and has some natural ball instincts that would really help in the back end.

After this, I'm out of ideas. Please add your own. Hopefully, this will get turned around starting this week or we could get shut out and dominated again by the Bengals. Either way, I'm tired of watching this **** already. If I'm going to be subjected to this nonsense, I would rather be naked, strapped down in a chair, with two Asian women in S&M gear... one of which is swinging a bull rope into my ball sack while the other is putting out lit cigarettes on me.

I don't know if I've ever agreed more with a post than I agree with this.
 
Since I joined I got insulted for saying that Brady would throw his first pick ending that streak in the DIV against NYJ and you guys deleted my spot on post making excuses

The SB was as joke NYG and Eli sucked and now it is making sense how the Pats suddenly got embarrassed.

Pats homers I love our team always but this is about money, Kraft is a sell out and needs to go


Wow.

first of all the mods delete posts, not other posters, so you need to take that up with them.

Second-It was the critics who claimed the Patriots would never get close to the SB in 2010 because their defense was so bad, yet they then try to argue that it was a failure to win it is ridiculous, had they it would have been an unbelievable accomplishment to win a SB with that bad a defense.

Last point, kraft is an exceptional owner, calling for his head is ridiculous.
 
i have no idea.

the line might get a little better, not much. none of those receivers will get faster/taller.

still have some hope but it might end after sunday night.:(
 
i have no idea.

the line might get a little better, not much. none of those receivers will get faster/taller.

still have some hope but it might end after sunday night.:(


Line was better last night. Better then oak and mia games. Lafell seems to almost he in Bradys circle so thats a plus as they need more ppl to throw to.

Scratch DA from the bengals game please...useless.
 
Line was better last night. Better then oak and mia games. Lafell seems to almost he in Bradys circle so thats a plus as they need more ppl to throw to.

Scratch DA from the bengals game please...useless.

lafell only runs quick slants. lol seems to work though.
 
People keep saying that. It's not really true.

brady was only hit five times last night which less than how many times he was hit in several individual quarters this season I think. It played well early and got worse as the Pats got predictable and threw all the time in a deep hole.
 
Can someone please link us to the "homer"posts because i haven't seen anyone who is saying anything more than that the patriots are playing like crap?
 
Lmao, you stalk an entire forum.

Just wondering, should your jets go to Vick or do you want them to stick with geno?

Idiot....get some new material
 
Can someone please link us to the "homer"posts because i haven't seen anyone who is saying anything more than that the patriots are playing like crap?

LOL.......shaddup
 
Ladies, please. Shake your ****s, this pissing contest is over. Let's talk about this team in a productive manner, shall we?
 
brady was only hit five times last night which less than how many times he was hit in several individual quarters this season I think. It played well early and got worse as the Pats got predictable and threw all the time in a deep hole.
At least barnwell thinks otherwise.To quote from the other thread I posted

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/new-england-patriots-kanas-city-chiefs-tom-brady/

Honestly, the whole line played so badly that it made me wonder whether Devey should come back next week. Unless there were unannounced injuries or planned rotations, the Patriots benched three offensive linemen during parts of Monday’s game. Tackles Nate Solder and Sebastian Vollmer were each taken out after subpar series before returning, while Fleming was benched for Ryan Wendell (who himself was benched earlier in the year). Fleming was whipped repeatedly by Allen Bailey, most notably on the pressure that produced the first of two Brady strip-sacks. Solder was then left in the dust by Tamba Hali on the second, with Hali jumping the snap count and hitting Brady without as much as a touch from Solder.

Brady was hurried on seven of his 25 drop-backs, and that number was only that low because Josh McDaniels dialed up every bit of smoke and mirrors he possibly could to distract the Kansas City pass rush from eating his linemen alive. There was a shovel pass, an immediate swing pass, a play-action off the jet sweep, and at least four screens. Brady rarely was asked to throw downfield, and even if he had wanted to, he wouldn’t have had the time anyway. The Patriots ran the ball a fair amount early on, but they rarely did much with it, as their seven rushes produced just 24 yards in the first half. The offensive line didn’t look much better on those runs, with a third-and-2 sweep wiped out when a pulling Stork was simply shoved into the backfield.
 
I get the feeling there are a lot of broken fundamentals on the team this year. For players this means tackling and blocking skills are lacking. But for the coaching staff, it means they are missing the simple basics of always bringing out the best in your players while hiding any faults.

I would like to see us start playing to the strengths of our current personnel. What we are doing instead seems to be catering to the daydreamed schemes of various members of the coaching staff when musing on how football would be played by cylindrical players in a vacuum. We need the coaching staff to use our actual roster and devise a scheme that is suited to them specifically.

On defense, if this means going back to the 4-3 style we had the personnel for, do it. If it means Revis gets physical at the line, make it so. If it means building on the base we created last year such that we can have more complex rushing schemes, get on it. On offense, if it means Edelman stops running deep routes, by all means fix that. If it means having Solder take a time out until such a time as he is fit to return, make that happen and let Cannon fill in for him. If it means Danny Amendola should take fewer snaps and thoroughly learn the subset he is left with, God, yes please. If it means using Devlin to crank up a bit more of a power run game, work it out. And on special teams, well, Slater et al. we love you, so please don't go changin'.

Now, you'll notice that I don't mention Brady at all. That is because imo, he is the very least of the problems here. Brady is simply shell-shocked. He will snap out of it as soon as he feels properly protected and supported again.

So Belichick, this lands at your feet. It is on you to fix the errant strategy of your coaching staff. They have shoved their collective fingers in their ears so as to drown out the feedback of their players. Its time to pluck those fingers from their landings and get these coaches listening.
 
2009 saints beats that IMO

The 2009 Saints were an elite powerhouse team that went on to win the Super Bowl that year with their HOF QB in his prime.

The 2014 Chiefs won't even make the playoffs and have Alex Smith.
 
Either way, I'm tired of watching this **** already. If I'm going to be subjected to this nonsense, I would rather be naked, strapped down in a chair, with two Asian women in S&M gear... one of which is swinging a bull rope into my ball sack while the other is putting out lit cigarettes on me.

Ah, I see you finally took my advice and gave it a shot.
 
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