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It seems that Fleming is on the 53, unless he is replaced by a 3rd TE or an OT/TE hybrid like Manieri.

I don't why folks think that Hilapio has earned a roster spot over Devey.

Wendell is the big question mark. He may need to be active as the backup center. Or the best combination of C/RG may still be Wendell and Connolly. Stork could make the 53 man squad, but he is not ready to be the game active backup center.
 
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Didn't Devey give away 2 penalties in the space of no time at the start of the game? Can't say I noticed Halapio, which is usually a good thing for OL.
 
Didn't Devey give away 2 penalties in the space of no time at the start of the game? Can't say I noticed Halapio, which is usually a good thing for OL.
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Giving up more penalties in preseason games simply means that you were on the field more. Devey played in ALL the offensive snaps. Hilapio played only sparingly.
 
Fleming makes it; I don't think there's any doubt about it.
As much as it pains me to say, but I also don't think that any of Barker, Cave, Devey or Kline
have shown to deserve a roster spot ahead of Hilapio or even Wendy.

Solder - Mankins - Connolly - Cannon - Vollmer
Fleming - Halapio - Wendy - Stork

That seems to me what the final result will look, as of right now.
That's way too much inexperience at the backup spots, but that problem won't be solved by
keeping any of the other 4.
 
Fleming makes it; I don't think there's any doubt about it.
As much as it pains me to say, but I also don't think that any of Barker, Cave, Devey or Kline
have shown to deserve a roster spot ahead of Hilapio or even Wendy.

Solder - Mankins - Connolly - Cannon - Vollmer
Fleming - Halapio - Wendy - Stork

That seems to me what the final result will look, as of right now.
That's way too much inexperience at the backup spots, but that problem won't be solved by
keeping any of the other 4.

You may have the final Oline squad for week 1. But I suspect Devey or Kline will beat out Halapio this year, but maybe not in 2015.
 
I'd be surprised if Kline doesn't make it myself.

He looked decent in taking over for Mankins' spot at LG last Dec at BAL, and he offers a little bit of (expected) versatility in the fact that he can play both sides.

If BOTH Connelly/Wendell make it (my choice at this point in time-- I saw nothing from the rookies to suggest that any of them are ready enough to make Wendell expendable), then I would have 2/3 rookies make it, with one of them getting cut in the hopes that they can make it to the PS.
 
Fleming may beat Cannon out at RG. Cannon could be better at LG with his technique getting so good while being agile for his size. Eventually the interior could look like. LG Cannon C Halapio( not sure they would give that a try however) and Fleming at RG. Fleming and Cannon are big but also quick and athletic for the guard position and Halapio has size/attitude for center position and athletic enough for the position. All are capable of establishing the line of scrimmage a couple yards upfield,especially Fleming can be very dominant. He may have been a Round 4 steal and could become a probowl guard.

Would be nice for Halapio to get a shot at center and reach his full potential, although he is a long shot to play there. Cannon and Fleming to reach their full potential as football players and become a great interior triad all drafted in middle rounds and become very good and great starters. Would be sweeeet. BTW did anybody see Fleming crush their DT when Mallet scrambled.
 
yeah...in the 2nd half with the field littered with scrubs and soon to be cuts.

would it be nice to see Halapio play center?...sure...except it's never gonna happen. I mean, it'd be nice if Kate Hudson would stalk me, break into my house and ravage me while professing her undying love for me...but...uh...no. In fact , from now on I'm gonna call any of these out-of-left-field ideas a Halapio.

It'd sure be nice if I hit Megabucks for 500 million!!!

errrrrnt...sorry...that's a HALAPIO....
 
You may have the final Oline squad for week 1. But I suspect Devey or Kline will beat out Halapio this year, but maybe not in 2015.

Wouldn't surprise me; Bill is certainly giving both Devey & Kline every chance to prove themselves.
And as KennethSims stated in another thread, if Bill feels that Stork is close to returning he may
release Wendell during final cuts to save money on Wendell's contract, then re-sign him after week 1.
 
Fleming may beat Cannon out at RG.

Has Fleming been getting interior reps? I honestly don't know. I thought he was an outside guy at tackle.

Cannon could be better at LG with his technique getting so good while being agile for his size.

I'm no expert of OL play, but I think Marcus Cannon is a much better fit on the right side--whether that be at RG or RT.

I thought that he looked lost and very out of place on the left side. As a matter of fact, he almost got Brady killed at one point last night on the L side.
 
Has Fleming been getting interior reps? I honestly don't know. I thought he was an outside guy at tackle.



I'm no expert of OL play, but I think Marcus Cannon is a much better fit on the right side--whether that be at RG or RT.

I thought that he looked lost and very out of place on the left side. As a matter of fact, he almost got Brady killed at one point last night on the L side.

That was Finch lack of ability at pass blocking, if its the untouched sack I'm thinking of.
 
yeah...in the 2nd half with the field littered with scrubs and soon to be cuts.

would it be nice to see Halapio play center?...sure...except it's never gonna happen. I mean, it'd be nice if Kate Hudson would stalk me, break into my house and ravage me while professing her undying love for me...but...uh...no. In fact , from now on I'm gonna call any of these out-of-left-field ideas a Halapio.

It'd sure be nice if I hit Megabucks for 500 million!!!

errrrrnt...sorry...that's a HALAPIO....

I know I know. Its just when I see Wendell look like he is doing a show on ice at center it feels like waste to have a big strong guy like Halapio on the sideline who has practiced for the position before.

The mega mil wow. That thing is a bigger tease than Kate Hudson lol. And be careful with Kate Hudson stalking you dude. A hot chic stalking you isn't as fun as it sounds. :)

We could use a chuckle tonight lol. My friend Matt who does programming/networking and whatever for our uncle sam. Invited some girls from his new job to show up at the club. Well they showed and they were very attractive after us teasing him bout geeky girls with pet robots. Lisa was very attractive and left her things in the car parked several blocks away with a line to get in. I said we can skip your round when its your turn but she felt bad doing that and asked me to walk her back to her car. I loaned her $$ instead til we all dined out after club closed. I was like cool this hot girl seems to be initiating things with me. Thankfully it was a huge nightclub. I saw an X GF and an intended how have you been turned into talking and hanging out a couple hours. Meanwhile Lisa got tipsy and got talking to one of my best friends Adam.

They ended up dating steady on and off for well over a year. He asked us for opinions bout her possessive behaviour. Eventually he broke it off and to everybody's surprise got back with her one Saturday night. Well didn't take long for her to get worse than ever.

He finally broke it off with her, well at least said he wanted to see other people which she agreed to. She really couldn't stop him, it would have caused him to break up with her completely.

That's when Lisa began showing up everywhere we did. I'm sure there was a tracker on our cars. She knew Adam had a new flame and began talking with her and tried to befriend her as well as any other girl. Now Lisa for work had and needed the top security clearance that you could get. Besides the following and stories made up and the following us which alone was enough for stalking charges she began showing up late night and refusing to leave even when we had company over. Scared off several girls Adam had over. Our other roomie and best friend Chris finally called the cops which we didn't want to do because of her security clearance. We said we don't want her arrested just chased away. Well she came back after cops left lol. We threatened to call them again she finally left after getting neighbors attention who was bout 100 feet or so away. Next morning a day we had pool party barbecue planned with lots of guests showing up, we noticed pool dirty. She threw everything she could find in the pool including mud and stones. It was an in ground pool and we rented this place,wasn't ours. Luckily pool service helped us get it ready but costed a lot for all that work on short notice.

Then the break ins started. Trashing the house and erased the # of every female from his phone,including cousins and other girls he never dated. Chris was done with her **** and wanted to press charges. She placed thumbtacks in all our beds because she blamed his friends for him breaking up. Instead he asked her over for apps and a movie but planned to confront her. Told her we wouldn't call cops again and would respect her more if she came clean bout his cell phone erasing and promised not to bother or try texting andybody whose # she got off his phone. She agreed.



She promised to be good after we confronted her on breaking in and messing with his phone. However she forgot to leave out the part only behave til next weekend. Again of all the nightspots she just happened to be at ours again. After closing we left and took a couple cars and planned on dinner with some girls we knew before meeting her. Just friends of ours we met while going out way before she entered the pic. Well we were parked at a hill and getting in the car when she grabbed Adams door before he closed it. We didn't even see her coming. She asked him out of the car for one sec then reached in and snatched his keys. She told Adam your still my friend and I care about you and can't let you drive while your so wrecked Adam. When he was fine and had only 3 drinks total and none in the last couple hours. She wouldn't give him his keys. We all gout out of the cars to help settle things. He took his keys back but the ring was wrapped in her finger. She said ouch and he let go of the keys and when he let go she fell on her butt and rolled once. Well these thugs parked at wawa almost a block away saw it and thought he pushed her down that hard. And decided to drive over to us and play hero to impress the hot girl. She told them he did push her. They ran their mouths like thugs do and things heated. He challenged Adam and Adam said you're playing hero tonight and told him do something or just get back in his car and shut his ghetto mouth. Besides Lisa there were several other girls but just friends that were with us and thug dude got cute and butted his head into Adams face. Took about 15-20 seconds for Adam to destroy him. Adam had him down punching him in the head. Couple of his boys moved to like intervene and Adams brother pushed one and he flew over Adam and the dude he was punching on. After that Adam was careful for his friends to attack I suppose. And His brother and a police officer were pulling Adam up. He thought it was his boys and elbowed Chris in the eye. Left a nice mark but if he sent his left elbow it would have been the cop lol. Took half hour for police to sort it out. Lisa told cops Adam tried driving drunk and she tried to stop him and he pushed her for his keys back. Luckily we had girls with us who were as hot as Lisa and were intelligent/respectful who told the cops she was lying and all our stories matched completely. Besides one girl won't stand for a guy abusing another girl even if she is his friend. Police know that to. So Lisa was ordered to leave us alone and thugs were arrested for drugs in their car and initiating contact first. She still followed us to the diner where another cop saw the argument on the parking lot and put her in cuffs and in his car this time. She was crying she would lose her job and we asked the police officer to let her go due to her job and security clearance she needed and he did so. But with a written warning.

She was good for about 2 weeks before the next incident. We were hanging out at where Adams flame worked. He was actually charming her even with his crazy x nut job trying to screw it up. She asked Adam to hang around til she got off work and she would swing a deal with her co workers to get off a little early. Better yet one of her best friends Amber looked exactly like Brook Langton my Hollywood crush was there to that night and actually bought me a couple drinks. Well got them free but tipped nicely lol. This girl Amber was the most excited I been over meeting a girl in quite a while. I'm not usually very attracted to Hollywood women but I like Brooke Langton for some reason. Wellll Adams x crazyella saw Adam kissing Kristen outside as she came out from work. And Amber took my hand as we began discussing where to go. Naturally it was a great night going well, that is til Adams X came up to us looking very upset to put it mildly. But dude we had no clue how upset she was. I mean I was just going to pull out my phone and tell her leave us alone or I was calling a cop and how she has been warned already. Adam was going to tell her the same thing if she started arguing before ruining this night. But she beat us to the punch. And she didn't say much of anything except calling Kristen a $lut and punched her in the face. I yelled are you nuts and she turned to Adam who walked away fast to get Lisa away from Kristen. Amber called a cop over working the club as Lisa ran when she saw police. Amber told Police what happened and I went back in the club for ice and stuff because her ring bruised Kristens face. The police and Kristen/Amber were asking what her full name was to issue a warrant. Adam before telling her name did say she loses her job over an assault arrest and asked if she wanted to continue. Kristen started crying because she thought Adam wanted to consider protecting her. But in reality Adam was going to have another girl to kick Lisa's ass good instead. But its hard to do that when you are in the process of pressing charges. I found out Amber did lots of kick boxing/martial arts training and was going to help press charges and still kick her ***. Kristen was very upset at Adam over the incident and thinking he wanted to look out for her and not get her arrested. And thought he abandoned her after she got hit because he walked away fast but I knew he was just trying to keep his crazy X apart from Kristen, protecting her. Well he never dated or really talked with Kristen from that point. It also made it awkward for me and Amber to talk much from that fight on.

I know it has nothing to do with football. However would you still want to be stalked by Kate Hudson and see her breaking in your home or do you want to see Halapio get a shot at center LOL Just playing, I wouldn't mind him getting a shot there but I know your right, they won't even probably consider Halapio at Center.
 
Has Fleming been getting interior reps? I honestly don't know. I thought he was an outside guy at tackle.
Fleming has only played at RT.

I'm no expert of OL play, but I think Marcus Cannon is a much better fit on the right side--whether that be at RG or RT.
I agree, but I think when they use him at LT in the regular season it will be when they are stacking Vollmer at RT and Solder at LT so they are going away from Cannon in most cases.
 
It seems that Fleming is on the 53, unless he is replaced by a 3rd TE or an OT/TE hybrid like Manieri.

I don't why folks think that Hilapio has earned a roster spot over Devey.

Wendell is the big question mark. He may need to be active as the backup center. Or the best combination of C/RG may still be Wendell and Connolly. Stork could make the 53 man squad, but he is not ready to be the game active backup center.
The highest pick the Patriots have released in the Belichick era has been Lee Smith who was #159 overall. That actually proved to be a mistake because Smith has gone on to be a productive player in Buffalo and is actually the exact type of TE we are looking for now desperately. Taking that into consideration I find it very hard to envision them releasing Stork who was taken at #105 or Fleming who was taken at #130. I actually would be surprised to see them release Halapio who was #179.

I think fans have to get away from the belief that Belichick is going to pick the best 53 players for 2014 with no regard for the future of the team. He is not going to do that, he never has, he is going to keep some players who might not help right away.

He can cut Wendell, and most likely Wendell will sit on the UFA market and be available in season if needed. He had no interest during UFA this offseason.
 
IIRC Miami for one needs a center
 
Thanks for getting that started Joker.

Patfancraig, my goodness, where the heck does that come from, and what in God's green earth made you think that the rest of us wanted to be subjected to that story?
 
typical gymrat rambling story post
 
Craig u gotta stop with these walls of text. If any of your paragraphs are longer than 6-7 sentences you are already in dangerous waters. At least two of your paragraphs were full-fledged books. OMG.

Not only did it hurt my eyes to read, the story was dumb. You toyed w/ the cops by telling them to just give the stalker only a scare, more than once I might add. But on a lighter note, you could've had the whole situation resolved in no time if you had just called ray rice.
 
typical gymrat rambling story post
Craig u gotta stop with these walls of text. If any of your paragraphs are longer than 6-7 sentences you are already in dangerous waters. At least two of your paragraphs were full-fledged books. OMG.

Not only did it hurt my eyes to read, the story was dumb. You toyed w/ the cops by telling them to just give the stalker only a scare, more than once I might add. But on a lighter note, you could've had the whole situation resolved in no time if you had just called ray rice.
Craig is just giving the people what they want, look at Jokers post he all but begged Craig for that biography.
 
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