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Clearly you don't know what a weapon is..But then, you've been one of the chicken littles for a long time now.

It seems we haven't won a Lombardi in a long time, maybe I'm onto something.
 
I have news for you. Megatron did not win a championship. Neither did Vince Jackson, nor D Thomas. Your WR fascination is beyond rational explanation.

Individual players don't win championships, teams do, but that doesn't mean a team can't be critically deficient at a position.
 
Tell me the last team in a Superbowl to not have aimportant legit playmaking wr besides us.

Seattle just a few months ago immediately comes to mind; they did not have anyone ranked among the top 25 in receiving last year. Same holds true for the previous Super Bowl champions, Baltimore. This century there has only been four champions that have had a player rank in the top ten in receiving yards that season; by comparison there have been seven instances where the championship team did not have a top-twenty receiver. Here is a look at the top receiver for each of the last 14 Super Bowl champions, and his rank in receiving yards that season.

2013: 31st (Golden Tate)
2012: 27th (Anquan Boldin)
2011: 3rd (Victor Cruz)
2010: 4th (Greg Jennings)
2009: 18th (Marques Colston)
2008: 15th (Hines Ward)
2007: 21st (Plaxico Burress)
2006: 2nd (Marvin Harrison)
2005: 22nd (Hines Ward)
2004: 32nd (David Givens)
2003: 32nd (Deion Branch)
2002: 16th (Keyshawn Johnson)
2001: 10th (Troy Brown)
2000: 32nd (TE Shannon Sharpe); 56th (WR Qadry Ismail)

Facts don't seem to back up your hypothesis.



And we got by cuz we have the best qb ever.

I often see or hear this, and I feel that argument is short-sighted. Pro football is the ultimate team game. Even if Brady is 'the best ever' - a very debatable point - his influence is overstated by that comment. Winning a championship takes so very much more than simply having the best player in the game, that makes this argument is nearly irrelevant. It may make sense in a game like basketball, where one single player represents 20% of the team on both offense and defense - but not in football. Being the most important player/position is vastly different from being the sole difference between winning and losing in a game where thirty to forty players on each team can make (or not make) a play that decides the outcome of a game. It takes a whole lot more than having one great player to win a single game, never mind winning 12 games a year and advancing as deep in the playoffs as the Patriots did.
 
I've been waiting to get back from a trip to post a reply to this....And BB the Coach is always saving BB the GMs Bacon. I like building for the future, but evey once in a while the team needs to take a shot at filling holes of immediate need like a Center for example. And i don't mean a fourth round coach em up Center, i mean a highly regarded first or second round Center


There weren't any this year. They come out about once a decade. The UCLA kid is no bigger than Wendell. Stork is from a Big Conference, faced top competition, is big and a tough guy, coachable, smart, and a Leader, who was chosen a captain twice. Reminds me of a poor man's Mankins; but the same personality type. He'll do fine.

The early mid rounds 3rd-5th are the normal and usual places to find interior O-linemen. BB waited and went there for his interior O-line rebuilding efforts. He even traded down to the early 4th to ensure he got Stork, and also his enabling RT acquisition. Fleming may not be in starters Vollmer or Solders class; but he doesn't have to be. He only needs to be a solid swing RT, freeing Cannon to become the full-time RG.

A good sized Rimington Trophy winner is NOT chicken feathers.

An intelligently rebuilt O-line, as befits a Super Bowl contender, and not requiring a rookie to start before his time. Solder, Mankins, Connolly, Cannon and Vollmer, Backed by Stork, Wendell, Fleming and maybe Halapio, brings talent, experience and upside to an O-line good enough to generate the 3rd best Offense in the League. When ready Stork will relegate Connolly to a very good interior swing position.
 
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In weeks 6 – week 12 Aaron Dobson had 22 receptions for 325 yards, and 4 touchdowns. If you project those 5 games out over a full season you 70 receptions, 1040 yards, and 9 touchdowns. I see no reason why Dobson is not capable of giving us that type of production this season if he is healthy.
 
Heres my answer to multiple replies like yours....If the pats continually draft for the future they will remain a very good to excellent team that will win 12+ games a year and continue to go to the playoffs just like they have been for the last Ten years. But just like the last ten years they'll make it deep into the playoffs but won't have quite enough to get a ring. Its great fun watching the team win that many games a year, but i want what the players want...more Rings.

BTW, on my complaint. Are you purposely being obtuse? I said in my post that IF the team had a decent pass rush and put pressure on manning Maybe just Maybe TB won't have been put in the position of trying to throw a TD with a revolving doors playing center and guard to win the SB. I mean thats the way its suppose to work.

I used to post a lot here, but posters here won't even consider the possibility that of looking at the FO moves with some objectivity. Its all Pom Poms, candy canes, and unicorns. Any questioning of the FO brings the knives out.
I don't think you've noticed the team getting stronger every year since the post 2009 rebuilding began. Once there was a single great D Lineman in Vince, a single good LB in Mayo, and a single good CB in Bodden. That team was a winner too but no where as good as the 2012 edition was, despite injuries, and the even better 2013 edition will be.

I'll take today's front line players like C Jones, Ninko and Vince. Adding other frontliners Kelly and maybe Smith and Easly; plus useful Armstead/Siliga/Ch Jones,Buchanon. At LB, Mayo has been joined by front liners Collins and Hightower. The secondary has been transformed and sports Revis, Browner, McCourty, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan frontliners all; and useful players like Harmon and Chung/Wilson.
 
In weeks 6 – week 12 Aaron Dobson had 22 receptions for 325 yards, and 4 touchdowns. If you project those 5 games out over a full season you 70 receptions, 1040 yards, and 9 touchdowns. I see no reason why Dobson is not capable of giving us that type of production this season if he is healthy.
A similar argument can be made for Thompkins.

We were near the top the NFL in passing last year. This should happen again, even with the same players as in 2014 (plus LaFell), because of the increased experience and hopefully fewer injuries.

Edelman, Dobson, Amendola, Boyce, Thompkins
Gronkowski, Hooman
LaFell

We expect that there will be an addition and a subtraction. But in any case, we should be better off than in 2013.
 
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Why is bill just now seeing his guard and center r below average. He has been running with them losers for several seasons and neglected to address it. Tell u y, he would rather run with below average lineman than take the time to coach up talent into his blocking schemes. History has proven he would rather throw a bucket of old rusty bolts on the field that already can run his plays than draft a talent and take the time to coach him up.
B4 mayo he never drafted a lb higher than the fifth rd. He kept calling 40+ yr old Seau out of retirement cuz he had no other options at lb and begged 37 yr old stroke survivor Bruschi to not retire and play another season. Cuz he didn't wanna take the time to draft and coach talent. Then in 2008 he over drafted Mayo because he was the only competent lb in the draft and bill was out of options at lb. Mayo was a good lb but never the impact explosive lb top 10 pick lb's r supposed to be. Mayo redefined the word need. Although a good lb he was never a game changer. He played in nearly 40 games b4 collecting a sack or int. Then in 2011 bill ignored pass rush in a draft rich in them. Instead he waits til 2012 when he was out of options to finally trade up for a good passrusher in Jones but Jones is not nearly the caliber passrusher of the 2011 dudes. Aldon,watt,Quinn,miller,Houston. Jones is decent but not in the league of those explosive impact rushers. Bills love of role players and guys he felt knew some plays similar to his system already to throw on the field were more important than addressing glaring holes at passrushers and wr's who can win and impact a game. Very primitive thinking in today's passing league. Other than qb nothing impacts the passing game more than passrushers and WR's. Its not like bill ignored it in favor of best player in draft. He ignored it for reaches who were busts, role players like back up qb's and part time rb's and players from particular schools and coaches who were partially already coached up on plays in schemes similar to his but the players lacking the skills and talent to play in the NFL. Like Cunningham,Wheatley,tavon,Harmon,meriweather,spikes,hightower,Chung,brace,price,Tate,Butler,crable etc. This doesn't even include all his early round busts just the ones where he ignored a players physical talent/skills in favor of how coached up they were in plays/schemes related to his just to fill a role. All while ignoring future pro bowl talent in important positions of need like #1 complete wr's and passrushers. What makes all those early round busts hurt so much is all the future bro bowlers passed by and ignored. And if interior online is a priority why wasn't a top talent selected instead of a backup qb role player.
He mentioned the colts 2-14 season. That wasn't the result of a decent backup being lacked. It was the result of a below average roster,online and defense, being carried by an all time great qb masking the online and other weaknesses. Sound familiar? I think Grappolo can maybe throw for 4000 yards 30 TDs after couple yrs of development behind Brady as long as he has good quality talented playmakers around him behind a talented online that can block talented pass rushing dt's and edge rushers man on man. However no backup or starter around this league could flourish and carry our offense like Brady does. With edelman as the most productive so called #1 wr. And an interior online not capable of blocking dlineman one on one. Last seasons offense clearly lacked a complete #1 wide out just for starters. They added Carolina castaway lafell and fans r excited. Will the offense b any better. Lafell isn't that big nor that fast with average separation quickness as a route runner. Carolina made minimal effort to bring him back. Instead they see the need to upgrade than resign him and not improve. Edelman resigned is a step backward unless he is counted on to be nothing more than a slot#3 we option. Him as the most productive wr playmaker wasn't nearly enough to win a championship. Couldn't beat the broncos much less hawks or miners. He needs to be upgraded over not resigned. That's not improving the team. The worst part is our competition is improving. Broncos,sf,Seattle,even division rivals. Even bills former players like bruschi and our former fullback are saying our competitors r getting better while we are not,while Brady is a year older. They also hinted at the bad drafts and they wouldn't bet on us to even win the division for sure.
We have an all time greatest qb. It shouldn't be so hard to fill holes at wr and edge rusher. We have the qb set and with the goat qb anything less than a championship trophy is a failure. Bills defense has been at the bottom the last 6 seasons cuz of poor drafting and lacking talent at key positions. Where would bills offense be without Brady. What qb could flourish with edelman as a #1 we.
Team should pursue Andre Johnson. He is used to making mediocre qbs look good and wants a ring. Brady makes sub NFL wr's look good and wants a ring. Sounds like a great marriage. I'm usually not for signing 32/33 yr old wr's. I was against counting on ochocinco cuz I felt he was a shell of chad Johnson at 33 and we were half ***ing adding a #1 wr. However he takes exceptional care of his body. Fanatical like jerry rice. And he is a raw salad and health food fanatic. I bet he runs a sub 4.5 still and at 6"3 220 lbs. He is also detail oriented at the wr craft and a hard worker practicing routes. Factor in Having Brady throwing him passes far superior than any qb he has ever had and he has another 1400 yard 10+ TD season in him. Also he is a great mentor for Dobson whom i feel has a ceiling as a #2 wr but a good #2 wr. Then edelman can man his rightful role as a slot wr and #3 option as a security blanket. Then if Gronk can return 100% and vereen can stay healthy and fulfill his talent as a shady McCoy type runner receiving role our playmaking talent would be as good as anybody's. I think halapio is more athletic than credited and will b better this season when healthy. He could fix our interior online. He has rare explosive torque. If easley doesn't return 100% we may have to trade a high draft pick b4 trade cutoff point. Would be a shame to waste the best secondary we ever had because of an anemic pass rush. I think Browner ends up as super all pro strong safety this season specializing in hog tying pro bowl te's in press and setting physical tone when in zone. That gives both safety positions cornerback cover skills with top safety instincts and physical playmaking skills. Mccourty is bulked up slightly and may overtake earl Thomas as best fs. Browner is 6"3 1/2 223 lb cb/as with best cover skills of any as in the NFL. Then Revis Denard and Ryan at corner. Let's not waste that with an anemic pass rush. Trade a high pick for a fast edge rusher if necessary to complete the defenses dominance to better than super bowl days :)

I refuse to even attempting to read this mass of ill written, un-punctuated, wrongly spelled, stream-of-consciousness, non-intelligent, gibberish. Organize what you want to say, or go back to the fifth grade and learn how.
It has been proven to you that fantasy WRs are not necessary to a Championship team, yet you persist in your idiocy.
 
Let's be clear. We needed a backup QB next year. We also needed a backup TE. That was the choice. Belichick probably will choose Keller as the TE, and may believe that Fiedorowitz is no better than the UDFA's and Williams.

OK, I have some FL land to sell those who think that Fiedorowitz would have made the difference in Brady winning more Super Bowl rings.

I assume it is drowned during mean high tide. Was it even dry during mean low tide?
 
You already have a franchise QB, maybe it would make sense to better protect him and/or give him better receivers to throw to. How do you know JG won't wind up being the Hoo-Man of QBs?

As far as "luxury picks", please tell me exactly what one is and when it's appropriate to use, I'm waiting.

They Did upgrade, as many knowledgeable fans wanted. It was not as if they had an enormous hole in the interior O-line. The incumbent players there are good enough to produce multiple 12 win seasons. It is just that these above average players are not good enough; and we wanted even better.

It is not clear that JG will Not be an average guy like Hooman, he is expected to be better, but may not. Garapollo needs lots of grooming. He does not have much experience in a Pro Offense under C, and it is a very large leap from Div IA to the NFL. Mallett had only to make the jump from the SEC and Big Ten to the NFL.

It is just that it is possible that Mallett may decide to move on when his contract expires, tired of waiting.

IMHO, expressed often, that the largely unseen and therefore ungradeable Mallett to outsiders, is better than Casell; and he did and beat out Hoyer, whom I like. After Belichick's commentary on the Sirius radio, I think BB believes it too.

If I were Mallett, I would probably re-sign to inherit a Super Bowl contender, rather than get to try to resurrect a dreg team like the Jags, Raiders or the Bucs. Poor owners, poor F. O. and scouts, and inferior coaches, cannot beckon if he were I.

Brady may play for a half a decade, or it may be the end will be near. We shall see, but I can still envision Ryan Mallett re-signing and attempting to be the Successor. After the radio interview, I think BB does as well.
 
Seattle just a few months ago immediately comes to mind; they did not have anyone ranked among the top 25 in receiving last year. Same holds true for the previous Super Bowl champions, Baltimore. This century there has only been four champions that have had a player rank in the top ten in receiving yards that season; by comparison there have been seven instances where the championship team did not have a top-twenty receiver. Here is a look at the top receiver for each of the last 14 Super Bowl champions, and his rank in receiving yards that season.

2013: 31st (Golden Tate)
2012: 27th (Anquan Boldin)
2011: 3rd (Victor Cruz)
2010: 4th (Greg Jennings)
2009: 18th (Marques Colston)
2008: 15th (Hines Ward)
2007: 21st (Plaxico Burress)
2006: 2nd (Marvin Harrison)
2005: 22nd (Hines Ward)
2004: 32nd (David Givens)
2003: 32nd (Deion Branch)
2002: 16th (Keyshawn Johnson)
2001: 10th (Troy Brown)
2000: 32nd (TE Shannon Sharpe); 56th (WR Qadry Ismail)

Facts don't seem to back up your hypothesis.





I often see or hear this, and I feel that argument is short-sighted. Pro football is the ultimate team game. Even if Brady is 'the best ever' - a very debatable point - his influence is overstated by that comment. Winning a championship takes so very much more than simply having the best player in the game, that makes this argument is nearly irrelevant. It may make sense in a game like basketball, where one single player represents 20% of the team on both offense and defense - but not in football. Being the most important player/position is vastly different from being the sole difference between winning and losing in a game where thirty to forty players on each team can make (or not make) a play that decides the outcome of a game. It takes a whole lot more than having one great player to win a single game, never mind winning 12 games a year and advancing as deep in the playoffs as the Patriots did.

LMAO. Maybe you dont realize it but you proved yourself wrong. Just cuz a wr isn't a league leader doesn't mean he isn't a dangerousrisonmaker. Numbers weren't there due to stuff like missing games but still they were feared playmakers more talented than short slow pipsqueak Nerdy Edelman.

1994-need I say
1995-original playmaker
1996- terry Glenn, rison,freeman
1997-rison,freeman- smith,McCaffrey
1998 smith,McCaffrey
1999 Holt,Bruce
2000- historical great defense still stokley an underrated long 6' slot with 4.44 speed who repeatedly beat a pro bowl corner deep.
2001 us with best qb ever
2002 keyshawn
2003 Brady again, Branch a poor man's Steve smith with underrated separation speed. Got first rounder for him. Who would give a #2 or3 for the wonder twins edelman/amendola combined.
2004- see 2003
2005- shadlers enough said. Great passrusher, Plaxico,very physical wr with quickness in ward and a good healthy the. Seattle great online lacked playmakers. Prime example
2006- colts enough said, Bears great defense lacked playmaker on offense
2007- us,holes on online,defense showing age, moss great but one trick pony,wasn't consistent long intermediate wr,had we had one to. Compliment him we would have had only 19-0 team ever. Or a decent rt who KNOWS THE SCHEME AND WORKS WELL IN IT. Kaczur was a mix of joke/liability. Moss would have been effective. Seller a great but limited slot.
2008- full of playmakers both teams
2009 Playmakers both teams
2010 packers full of respected playmakers. Steelers had them but one trick ponies.
2011. Giants loaded with playmakers, Gronk played injured,we lacked a complete playmaker and it showed. Also lacked passrusher
2012 a hot boldin,Torrey smith,pass catching rb and career year TE. Sf could have used another playmaker.
2013- awesome historical defense and a choking qb. Still hawks had returning Harvin and Tate a physical slot with speed. Still sf almost handed that game. Hawks had a great Defense with terrorizing passrusher,fast hard hitting lbs excelling in coverage. We have a hopeful unproven passrush but has potential.

So point is we're not saying we need a top3 in #'s wr but just a wr with talent,combo of size,speed,athleticism,physicality that can win on 3rd and 10 when defense reads what's coming yet wr's can still win. Like a marquise Lee,Allen robinson,Latimer,Marty Bryant,Jordan Matthews,Paul Richardson, Odell Beckham(athemselvee went very early) etc to develop as our #1 But now if wr's struggle and offense stalls we have to make a trade or it will become apparent we don't have the team to win a championship.

Sf and Seattle have proven dominant defenses, not hopefuls yet both are committed to upgrading at wr. Hawks traded #1 for Harvin and drafted a 6'1 fluid blazing playmaker in rd2 many compare to a young ocho who also weighed 180 til he got to Oregon state. Sf drafted a fast slot and traded for a pretty good proven playmaker.

Fans who try to lie to themselves and want to believe talented wr's are irrelevant and unimportant do so cuz we lack playmaking wr's. And are being bias in opinions. These same fans saying its not important would bust a nu+ if we traded for an Andre Johnson and they know it. They get excited and watch for every UFA we try out,hoping for the slight chance we find that playmaker wr that defenses fear. They say playmaking wr's aren't important yet watch and post every time we try out a wr hoping he could become the guy.

Be honest if we had Julio Jones who would care bout EVERY WR we bring in for a tryout.
 
Chris Jones does not get a lot of love on this board for a player who had 7 sack in 15 games played as a rookie who came in after week one on a waiver claim. I think people underestimate his talent level, if you look at the metrics that matter most to his position he is actually quite talented –

40-yard dash – 5.10
20-yard dash – 2.99
10-yard spilt – 1.87
20-yard shuttle – 4.44
Vertical jump – 31”
3-cone drill – 7.34
225lb bench press – 30

He has the tools to be solid NFL player, and he is a hard working kid.

He wasn't a ballyhooed FIrst Round draft pick who had been accompanied by months of media claques extolling his greatness, so he is un-recognized.

BB recognized his potential, taking him after Houston drafted him in the 6th and cut him. (He lost out to a guy named JJ Watt.) With the Pats injury situation he got a few years experience being tossed in. to sink or swim. I like his career potential is pretty good now, after almost a year of enforced starts.
 
Did somebody say Wendall,Conolly are above average? Lmao. Mallet inherit a Superbowl contender? Lmao, without Brady is this offense Superbowl contenders. This is getting comical. But let's wait for the games. And I been talking, Several people will quote you when the pipsqueak wonder twins edelman/amendola,our joke of leading wr's struggle which causes the offense to struggle. We will quote your confidence in the short,slow,weak,short armed,under athletic wonder twins. When this offense struggles without Gronk.
 
I want to know what they mean specifically by T-formation. Because the only thing close to T-formation we've seen in modern pro football is the wildcat. If it isn't from T-formation, does that mean the QB can throw to himself? (Someone should ask BB that question in a press conference, then duck.)


The Wildcat is a variation on the Single Wing not the T formation.
 
Did somebody say Wendall,Conolly are above average? Lmao. Mallet inherit a Superbowl contender? Lmao, without Brady is this offense Superbowl contenders. This is getting comical. But let's wait for the games. And I been talking, Several people will quote you when the pipsqueak wonder twins edelman/amendola,our joke of leading wr's struggle which causes the offense to struggle. We will quote your confidence in the short,slow,weak,short armed,under athletic wonder twins. When this offense struggles without Gronk.

Cassell won 11 games with a team inferior to this edition of the Pats. If Wendell and Connolly were such terrible linemen, how did the team win 12 games a year for several years? The're no gapping holes, but merely not quite good enough.
 
They Did upgrade, as many knowledgeable fans wanted. It was not as if they had an enormous hole in the interior O-line. The incumbent players there are good enough to produce multiple 12 win seasons. It is just that these above average players are not good enough; and we wanted even better.

It is not clear that JG will Not be an average guy like Hooman, he is expected to be better, but may not. Garapollo needs lots of grooming. He does not have much experience in a Pro Offense under C, and it is a very large leap from Div IA to the NFL. Mallett had only to make the jump from the SEC and Big Ten to the NFL.

It is just that it is possible that Mallett may decide to move on when his contract expires, tired of waiting.

IMHO, expressed often, that the largely unseen and therefore ungradeable Mallett to outsiders, is better than Casell; and he did and beat out Hoyer, whom I like. After Belichick's commentary on the Sirius radio, I think BB believes it too.

If I were Mallett, I would probably re-sign to inherit a Super Bowl contender, rather than get to try to resurrect a dreg team like the Jags, Raiders or the Bucs. Poor owners, poor F. O. and scouts, and inferior coaches, cannot beckon if he were I.

Brady may play for a half a decade, or it may be the end will be near. We shall see, but I can still envision Ryan Mallett re-signing and attempting to be the Successor. After the radio interview, I think BB does as well.

Sure is nice to sit back and watch things play out this year.......we either have a very capable back up at a rookie deal or we can decide to pay mallet.

Why is security for the most important position in the game today a waste of a second round pick?

There simply werent deep holes that needed filling or the talent to fill them..........taking Garapollo was a great pick, one that i feel will indeed secure that back up spot, quite capably at a cap friendly amount.

And maybe, just maybe, he takes over when Brady is done in 4 years or so, or shudder to think, has to fill in for a few games waiting for the GOAT to return.

No matter how I slice it, it looks to me to be a great move.
 
You can win the super bowl many different ways. Would having a Calvin Johnson help us absolutely, is it necessary to win, no. As far as comparing what Johnson or Fitzgerald have won in their careers that is silly, the NFL is a team sport it takes an offense, defense, and special teams to win, those players are not any less great because they have not been surrounded by enough to be a winning football team.

Fitzgerald did win a NFC championship in 2009 for what it is worth.


I agrree there are many ways to skin a cat. Belichcik knows however that in the day of the CAP you cannot have superstars everywhere.

He decided, quite rightly, IMO, that the money would barely spread to certain key positions. Namely QB, LOT, MLB, RDE, DT and CB and possibly CB2, S and RB.

Notice that WR is NOT included. Nice to have but probably unaffordable in the long run except on a rookie, or end of career, good money deal.

Keeping a fantasy WR just helps insure you don't have money for the really key players. So a Fantasy WR may actually be a hinderance!
 
Did somebody say Wendall,Conolly are above average? Lmao. Mallet inherit a Superbowl contender? Lmao, without Brady is this offense Superbowl contenders. This is getting comical. But let's wait for the games. And I been talking, Several people will quote you when the pipsqueak wonder twins edelman/amendola,our joke of leading wr's struggle which causes the offense to struggle. We will quote your confidence in the short,slow,weak,short armed,under athletic wonder twins. When this offense struggles without Gronk.

How anyone after last year can just **** on Edelman is beyond me. The guy was game. Made huge plays.

But hey, I think everyone here knows already you like your men lean, mean, and nasty!

So go back to fondling yourself over pictures of Patrick Willis and his physique. That seems to be your expertise.
 
I agrree there are many ways to skin a cat. Belichcik knows however that in the day of the CAP you cannot have superstars everywhere.

He decided, quite rightly, IMO, that the money would barely spread to certain key positions. Namely QB, LOT, MLB, RDE, DT and CB and possibly CB2, S and RB.

Notice that WR is NOT included. Nice to have but probably unaffordable in the long run except on a rookie, or end of career, good money deal.

Keeping a fantasy WR just helps insure you don't have money for the really key players. So a Fantasy WR may actually be a hinderance!
The best way to build a team is through the draft, which is what we have done with the exception of Revis all of our other marquee players were draft picks.

Posters and fans want another Randy Moss. That is actually ignorance though, they look at the fact that we do not have a “WIDE RECEIVER” that is in the top ten in the NFL. The reality is we have Rob Gronkowski who is every bit as dominate when on the field as Randy Moss was for us. Gronkowski had 90 receptions, 1327 yards, and 17 touchdowns in 2011; he would have had similar numbers in 2012 and 2013 if not for injuries. I cannot think of a player outside of Calvin Johnson that can produce that much in the passing game for a team.

Essentially right now what people want equates to people back in 2007 complaining that we did not have Antonio Gates as our tight end.
 
How anyone after last year can just **** on Edelman is beyond me. The guy was game. Made huge plays.

But hey, I think everyone here knows already you like your men lean, mean, and nasty!

So go back to fondling yourself over pictures of Patrick Willis and his physique. That seems to be your expertise.
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