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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Coudlnt the nfl just make taping the signals legal...
It is legal, within walls and with a roof overhead, at least that's what I have heard.
This is "roof-less-gate"
Coudlnt the nfl just make taping the signals legal, then this would all go away? Cant investigate the"cheating" if its within the rules.
ohhhhh.
This is one of the biggest questions that I have. Why is taping legal only from certain specified locations at game time? What's wrong with allowing taping of public acts that all people see (namely signals from the sidelines and such)? Is the competative advantaged gained from such taping so great that it necessitates limitation of the location of taping? And if the competative advantage gained not so great, what is the big deal in the first place? I have not read one good argument why sideline videotaping should be illegal, I am not saying that there isn't one, I just haven't heard it. Can someone point something out that is helpful?
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The media is now piling on KG and the Celtics.
yep ... and refs are making so many bad calls on the C's
it makes you really wonder what's going on.
It is legal, within walls and with a roof overhead, at least that's what I have heard.
This is "roof-less-gate"
Video taping coaches signals is ILLEGAL, REGARDLESS of where its taped from.
The rule that you quote is on game film, NOT coaches signals. Every team films every game, they just can't film coaches signals.
This is the rule the Pats broke.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on this issue.
Video taping coaches signals is ILLEGAL, REGARDLESS of where its taped from.
The rule that you quote is on game film, NOT coaches signals. Every team films every game, they just can't film coaches signals.
This is the rule the Pats broke.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on this issue.
Look at the 3rd stickied thread above at the top of the page. The relevant rules and memo parts are posted there.
The memo uses stronger language against taping signals than the rules and field guide, but still specifies the areas from which taping is illegal, implying to most anyway that other areas are legal. There is lots of room to interpret meaning though.
This is one of the biggest questions that I have. Why is taping legal only from certain specified locations at game time? What's wrong with allowing taping of public acts that all people see (namely signals from the sidelines and such)? Is the competative advantaged gained from such taping so great that it necessitates limitation of the location of taping? And if the competative advantage gained not so great, what is the big deal in the first place? I have not read one good argument why sideline videotaping should be illegal, I am not saying that there isn't one, I just haven't heard it. Can someone point something out that is helpful?
Here is how I see it.
Taping from legal locations which are the endzones and other special enclosures: Cameras in these locations can be blocked. Their line of sight to signal callers is fixed. People can be stratigically placed to block that line of sight. Also it becomes difficult if not impossible to include the play and the signals in the same frame. Cameras in fixed locations are easier to inspect and monitor by NFL security.
Taping from the sidelines: This camera would be mobile and can be placed directly in line with the formation and the signal caller making blocking it impossible. When the signals are given, the camera can easily pick up any signals further given in the formation by players. This is especially true if the camera is equipped with a good microphone and is also recording the audio.
In summary: Sideline recordings contain much more information than what can be recorded from fixed locations. This also makes editing the recording(s) much easier and faster. It also allows immediate playback via the camera's monitor giving access to the coaching staff which is prohibited.
Video taping coaches signals is ILLEGAL, REGARDLESS of where its taped from.
The rule that you quote is on game film, NOT coaches signals. Every team films every game, they just can't film coaches signals.
This is the rule the Pats broke.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on this issue.
Thanks, it seems logical that the NFL would want to make it more difficult to video signals, but if this was their main concern, wouldn't it be easier to prohibit the practice altogether rather then rely on limitations of camera location. This is not to say that if taping signals was illegal, keeping the cameras in fixed locations would be helpful in enforcement, I see a combination of the rules as rather effectice. But with no prohibiton to taping signals, why not allow someone to tape from the sidelines and make it easier? Maybe the NFL is concerned that teams will spend too much time coming up with ways to hide signals that it will distract them from the game, though this seems like a flimsy justification to me.
The NFL should make it illegal to tape signals or allow everyone to tape from everywhere, that makes the most sense to me. I have no problems with either rule, just as long as it is clearer then the current one.