Why We'll All LOVE Laurence Maroney next year.

[bradmahn]

Sammy Morris

6 Games, 85 Rushes, 384 Yards, 4.5 AVG, 3 TDs


Laurence Maroney

6 Games, 89 Rushes, 417 Yards, 4.7 AVG, 0 TDs


Oh yeah, BIG difference there. Tell me where the stats show Maroney's dominance over Morris this season?

Morris played against the Bengals and Browns, and got 20 carries against each of them.

The coaching staff was giving the ball to Maroney more than they were Morris. Do you honestly think Morris would have been the feature back if Maroney wasn't sitting out?

Morris was good... Maroney is better.

 

[PaulNEPats]

You'll take one runner over another just because got run it in from the one yard line a couple times? Good thing you're not making front office decisions for the team.

I wouldn't want either one as the premier back. I was just correcting your uneducated assumption that Maroney was posting better stats that Morris. When both are healthy, they compliment each other well. I don't think either one should handle a full-time load though.

 

[Deus Irae]

Then how come Morris got 3 TD's in 6 games? Maroney is just a 20 to 20 runner. He sucks on a short field when the safeties come up and that's why his made out of glass ass sits on the sideline when we are inside the 10. I swear, you Maroney apologists have got to wake up.

I'm not a Maroney apologist. I'm just not going to spout the nonsense you have been putting forth because I've seen the data, both on the field and off. I take what's in front of me and analyze it. THEN, I form a conclusion. You, on the other hand, jump to a conclusion and then can't admit error despite the evidence against you.

 

[bradmahn]

I'll take 3 TDs over 30 yards.

Three TD runs of one yard is not all that impressive of a stat.

 

[Nordy]

I wouldn't want either one as the premier back. I was just correcting your uneducated assumption that Maroney was posting better stats that Morris. When both are healthy, they compliment each other well. I don't think either one should handle a full-time load though.

Maroney IS posting better stats. 4.7 per run to 4.5 in roughly the same amount of carries. A couple one yard TD runs don't equate to better stats as far as I'm concerned. Not to mention both games Morris started were against two of the league's most horrendous run defenses. Cincy had one freakin LB for most of that game.

 

[Flying Fungi]

Shhhh!!! Don't you know Laurence Maroney can do no wrong in patriot homerville? Don't say a bad word about him because he is, afterall, such a workhorse and stud, LOL! I agree with you bro. The guy is a dud.

you know--nobody in this thread is doing any ballwashing of Maroney anywhere near the extent that you have done for McFadden

see if you can have this discussion without the vitriol and without being a prick

my money is on you not being able to

 

[PaulNEPats]

Maroney IS posting better stats. 4.7 per run to 4.5 in roughly the same amount of carries. A couple one yard TD runs don't equate to better stats as far as I'm concerned. Not to mention both games Morris started were against two of the league's most horrendous run defenses. Cincy had one freakin LB for most of that game.

We're talking a total of 30 yards difference for roughtly the same amount of carries. Talk about splitting hairs

And it's not like I hate LoMa, I'm just a little disappointed this season considering the passing attack the Pats have. God forbid anyone show some criticism.

 

[Nordy]

We're talking a total of 30 yards difference for roughtly the same amount of carries. Talk about splitting hairs

And it's not like I hate LoMa, I'm just a little disappointed this season considering the passing attack the Pats have. God forbid anyone show some criticism.

Pretty hard to be disappointed in a 4.7 YPC. In fact it's pretty stupid to be disappointed in that. Was the injury disappointing? Yeah, but injuries happen and he can't control that.

 

[Nordy]

It's funny that Maroney is the one called "glass man" when Morris is the one that's on IR.

 

[Deus Irae]

We're talking a total of 30 yards difference for roughtly the same amount of carries. Talk about splitting hairs

And it's not like I hate LoMa, I'm just a little disappointed this season considering the passing attack the Pats have. God forbid anyone show some criticism.

Let's look at the ypc of the players who have as many carries as Maroney or more. Here are those with a ypc lower than Maroney:


Willie Parker
Marshawn Lynch
Edgerrin James
Clinton Portis
Cedric Benson
LenDale White
LDT
Willis McGahee
Joseph Addai
Thomas Jones
Larry Johnson
DeShaun Foster
Shaun Alexander
Warrick Dunn
Jamal Lewis
LaMont Jordan
Travis Henry
Fred Taylor
Earnest Graham
Reggie Bush
Frank Gore
Julius Jones
Derrick Ward
Ron Dayne
Steven Jackson
Kenny Watson
Rudi Johnson


These are the only runners with as many or more carries as Maroney to have a higher ypc than he does:

Adrian Peterson
Brian Westbrook
Ronnie Brown
Marion Barber
Justin Fargas
Brandon jacobs
Maurice Jones-Drew


You people bashing Maroney really need to get a clue.

 

[Hollywood_Brady]

i think there is too much hesitation when he hits the hole w/c can be learned through time and reps... he will be a solid back but im still hoping he will be a gamebreaking rb...

 

[PaulNEPats]

Let's look at the ypc of the players who have as many carries as Maroney or more. Here are those with a ypc lower than Maroney:


Willie Parker
Marshawn Lynch
Edgerrin James
Clinton Portis
Cedric Benson
LenDale White
LDT
Willis McGahee
Joseph Addai
Thomas Jones
Larry Johnson
DeShaun Foster
Shaun Alexander
Warrick Dunn
Jamal Lewis
LaMont Jordan
Travis Henry
Fred Taylor
Earnest Graham
Reggie Bush
Frank Gore
Julius Jones
Derrick Ward
Ron Dayne
Steven Jackson
Kenny Watson
Rudi Johnson


These are the only runners with as many or more carries as Maroney to have a higher ypc than he does:

Adrian Peterson
Brian Westbrook
Ronnie Brown
Marion Barber
Justin Fargas
Brandon jacobs
Maurice Jones-Drew


You people bashing Maroney really need to get a clue.

Willie Parker 212 carries
Marshawn Lynch 196 carries
Edge 182 carries
Clinton Portis 181 carries

I'm not going to go through the whole list, but you're basing your stats on players who have 100+ more carries than Loma. Not exactly a fair standard. Maybe you're the one who needs a clue.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Let's look at the ypc of the players who have as many carries as Maroney or more. Here are those with a ypc lower than Maroney:


Willie Parker
Marshawn Lynch
Edgerrin James
Clinton Portis
Cedric Benson
LenDale White
LDT
Willis McGahee
Joseph Addai
Thomas Jones
Larry Johnson
DeShaun Foster
Shaun Alexander
Warrick Dunn
Jamal Lewis
LaMont Jordan
Travis Henry
Fred Taylor
Earnest Graham
Reggie Bush
Frank Gore
Julius Jones
Derrick Ward
Ron Dayne
Steven Jackson
Kenny Watson
Rudi Johnson


These are the only runners with as many or more carries as Maroney to have a higher ypc than he does:

Adrian Peterson
Brian Westbrook
Ronnie Brown
Marion Barber
Justin Fargas
Brandon jacobs
Maurice Jones-Drew


You people bashing Maroney really need to get a clue.

Ya, that's fair, LOL! Are you that naive to think that Maroney isn't helped SIGNFICANTLY by the fact that oppossing defenses sit back and play the pass because they are scared to death of getting beat deep? Of course Maroney's YPC should high, he NEVER sees eight men in the box!! Wow, you Maroney apologists are unreal.

 

[Deus Irae]

Willie Parker 212 carries
Marshawn Lynch 196 carries
Edge 182 carries
Clinton Portis 181 carries

I'm not going to go through the whole list, but you're basing your stats on players who have 100+ more carries than Loma. Not exactly a fair standard. Maybe you're the one who needs a clue.

I went down the list from most carries to fewest in comparison to Maroney and set Maroney's as the baseline because he missed some playing time. By no means does it invalidate the point because Lynch has more carries. His numbers are better than the vast majority of runners who are starting this year. That's just the way it is.

 

[Deus Irae]

Ya, that's fair, LOL! Are you that naive to think that Maroney isn't helped SIGNFICANTLY by the fact that oppossing defenses sit back and play the pass because they are scared to death of getting beat deep? Of course Maroney's YPC should high, he NEVER sees eight men in the box!! Wow, you Maroney apologists are unreal.

Will your arguments get much more silly than this, or is this as bad as it gets? Again..... Maroney's ypc > Addai's ypc, thus pointing out the inapplicability of this argument.

Now, if you'd like to delve further, feel free to get the actual count of number of carries with number of defenders in the box for Maroney and the other runners, and I'll gladly compare them.

 

[Nordy]

Will your arguments get much more silly than this, or is this as bad as it gets? Again..... Maroney's ypc > Addai's ypc, thus pointing out the inapplicability of this argument.

Now, if you'd like to delve further, feel free to get the actual count of number of carries with number of defenders in the box for Maroney and the other runners, and I'll gladly compare them.

NSA hasn't provided any kind of argument other than "LOL YEAH RIGHT!"

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Will your arguments get much more silly than this, or is this as bad as it gets? Again..... Maroney's ypc > Addai's ypc, thus pointing out the inapplicability of this argument.

Now, if you'd like to delve further, feel free to get the actual count of number of carries with number of defenders in the box for Maroney and the other runners, and I'll gladly compare them.

Of course Addai'sYPC are less. You know why? Because he actually carries the rock inside the 10 and gets the no gain, 1, 2, and 3 yard carries that all BIG TIME backs get down inside the 10!! If Maroney was getting the ball down inside the 10 his YPC's would be much less. Wow, you guys are really unbelievable.

 

[Deus Irae]

Of course Addai'sYPC are less. You know why? Because he actually carries the rock inside the 10 and gets the no gain, 1, 2, and 3 yard carries that all BIG TIME backs get down inside the 10!! If Maroney was getting the ball down inside the 10 his YPC's would be much less. Wow, you guys are really unbelievable.

So let's see if I've got this right. I point to the actual stats. I point out the complete idiocy of your argument, using those actual stats. Others point out the fallacy of the "glass" argument. You have absolutely nothing to validly argue. You then make up a load of crap about "Carries the rock inside the 10" being the difference, with no evidence to back it, and we're the ones who are unbelievable? I'm pretty sure that not all of Addai's carries against San Diego came inside the 10 yard line when he was racking up that 2.5 ypc game.


Thanks for this assertion, though. I wanted to make sure your folly was on full display, and this is just what the doctor ordered.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

So let's see if I've got this right. I point to the actual stats. I point out the complete idiocy of your argument, using those actual stats. Others point out the fallacy of the "glass" argument. You have absolutely nothing to validly argue. You then make up a load of crap about "Carries the rock inside the 10" being the difference, with no evidence to back it, and we're the ones who are unbelievable? I'm pretty sure that not all of Addai's carries against San Diego came inside the 10 yard line when he was racking up that 2.5 ypc game.


Thanks for this assertion, though. I wanted to make sure your folly was on full display, and this is just what the doctor ordered.

Ok, so using your argument, than Addai has better than Maroney because he has a 4.6 YPC thru 24 games while Maroney has a 4.4 YPC thru 20 games. Even when I use your ridiculous STATS you lose the argument. Hey, so I guess Drew Bledsoe deserves to be in the HALL of FAME because of his STATS right? Please.

 

[pwes]

Ok, so using your argument, than Addai has better than Maroney because he has a 4.6 YPC thru 24 games while Maroney has a 4.4 YPC thru 20 games. Even when I use your ridiculous STATS you lose the argument. Hey, so I guess Drew Bledsoe deserves to be in the HALL of FAME because of his STATS right? Please.

Way to span 2 different seasons. Why not just go back to their college careers while you're at it.