Tuck
Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
- Joined
- Oct 10, 2013
- Messages
- 1,499
- Reaction score
- 2,038
Registered Members experience this forum ad and noise-free.
CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.If the Patriots win their next Two they will be sitting pretty. Would be something to knock both the Ravens and Broncos out of the Playoffs. Both Teams have Defenses that could give us some problems.
winning the next 2 clinches the number 2 seed. We need to beat Baltimore. Losing to them makes it at least not too remotely possible that we drop to seed 3 if they win out, and we drop Denver then one of the other two. Unlikely, but that scenario makes the Baltimore game critical right nowI agree, but I don't see BOTH denver and Baltimore getting knocked out of the playoffs. It will be either one or the other. If pittsburgh wins the division, Baltimore and Denver will fight it out for the 6 seed. The only other team that has a shot at the 6 seed is the lolphins, and they aren't getting in.
I was under the impression that the Pats can clinch a bye this weekend if Miami loses to Arizona and they beat the Ravens. Do you know if that is 100% true? I just read a retweet from Miguel that said the Steelers would also have to lose in that situation to clinch a bye this weekend. Would be so pumped to attend another divisional round game at the blade. It has been like another yearly holiday for my family.
I was under the impression that the Pats can clinch a bye this weekend if Miami loses to Arizona and they beat the Ravens. Do you know if that is 100% true?
winning the next 2 clinches the number 2 seed. We need to beat Baltimore. Losing to them makes it at least not too remotely possible that we drop to seed 3 if they win out, and we drop Denver then one of the other two. Unlikely, but that scenario makes the Baltimore game critical right now
Correct. You can check out this scenario for yourself! Pats can clinch a bye if they win and with a miami loss this weekend, even if they lose the next 3.
ESPN.com's 2016 NFL Playoff Machine - Simulate Matchups and Scenarios
I'm not certain it is possible for NE, Pitt and Oakland to be 11-5 and not have KC or Denver at 11-5. Too many matchups, but I could be wrong. In any event, there would be 11-5 scenarios where we are the 3, if it is a 3 way tie.If NE wins and MIA loses that clinches the AFCE for NE. So with respect to seeding we only need to compare NE to the other division winners.
If NE wins this week that guarantees NE finishes at least 11-5. That guarantees NE will have a better record than the AFCS winner. It also guarantees NE will have a better record than BAL (since us beating them means BAL can't do better than 10-6) so if BAL wins the AFCN then NE will be ahead of the AFCS and AFCN, thus is guaranteed the #2 seed and the bye. If PIT wins the AFCN at 11-5 then NE still is ahead of the AFCS and AFCN because NE has the h-t-h tiebreaker over PIT.
Hmmm....
OK, I think I can see why PIT might need to lose one game. If NE, OAK, and PIT all win their divisions at 11-5 the three-way tiebreaker goes first to conference record (since those teams did not all play each other) and in the three-way 11-5 scenario PIT would get the #1 seed (!) with a conference record of 9-3. NE and OAK would have the same conference record at 7-5, but OAK will win the strength-of-victory tiebreaker easily giving OAK the #2 and NE the #3.
I'm not certain it is possible for NE, Pitt and Oakland to be 11-5 and not have KC or Denver at 11-5. Too many matchups, but I could be wrong. In any event, there would be 11-5 scenarios where we are the 3, if it is a 3 way tie.
Here's one:
Week 14: OAK over KC, PIT over BUF, NE over BAL, TEN over DEN
Week 15: PIT over CIN, DEN over NE, SD over OAK, TEN over KC
Week 16: IND over OAK, NYJ over NE, PIT over BAL, KC over DEN
Week 17: MIA over NE, PIT over CLE, DEN over OAK, SD over KC
If that happens (and assuming MIA loses one game), OAK, NE, and PIT are 11-5 and win their divisions, DEN and KC are 10-6 and get the WCs and PIT is #1 (conf record) and OAK is #2 (SoV).
And yeah, there are other 3-ways ties you can get with NE, PIT, and other AFCW teams where a similar thing happens and NE gets the #3.
Of course, NE just wins 2 and no one has to worry about any of that.
right but 1 and 3, becomes just 1 and 1, IF we lose the next 2.... and Balt wins out... So we would definately have to beat BOTH Jets and Dolphins, if we lose to Balt and Denver. (Assuming Balt wins out, which I guess I doubt, so it is mute point for the most part )Winning any two clinches #2. While I prefer to beat BAL to get three cracks at getting the second win, NE still controls the #2 seed even with a loss to BAL.
we need to win 2 for sureI'm not certain it is possible for NE, Pitt and Oakland to be 11-5 and not have KC or Denver at 11-5. Too many matchups, but I could be wrong. In any event, there would be 11-5 scenarios where we are the 3, if it is a 3 way tie.
You think OAK is going to go 2-2? That's what needs to happen for NE to get #1 with a 3-1 record.I am hoping that Miami game means nothing in the end that's why I hope we win our next two: Jets game is already in the bag. That would give our injured guys plenty of Time to heal up. 3-1 Definitely gets us the #1 overall Bye-Week. I hope Brady doesn't have to suit up against Miami.
Well, if we lose 3 out of 4 it doesn't matter anyway, but no, we would have a very good chance at a bye at 11-5.we need to win 2 for sure
They have 3 road division games. Sure they can.You think OAK is going to go 2-2? That's what needs to happen for NE to get #1 with a 3-1 record.
You think OAK is going to go 2-2? That's what needs to happen for NE to get #1 with a 3-1 record.