"Integrity" of the NFL: Deflategate vs. Bengals/Steelers Game

[glm]

Yes. He shoved Joey Porter WHO HAD NO BUSINESS INVADING THE PLAYING FIELD.

This whole thing was a farce.

But once again, Brady and the Patriots are the imminent threat to the integrity of the game.

Crazy thing is that he didn't even touch Joey

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Yes. He shoved Joey Porter WHO HAD NO BUSINESS INVADING THE PLAYING FIELD.

It wasn't against the rules for him to be there. The ball was dead.

 

[shmessy]

No Joey Porter was trolling the bengals players and a red prevented him from getting in his face. He didn't actually shove anybody

Unbelievable.

Best part is at the end of the clip when a referee gently valets Mr. Porter away from the threat of the actual players on the actual field.

 

[shmessy]

It wasn't against the rules for him to be there. The ball was dead.

What in the hell are you talking about?

No non-player can go to the middle of a field during a game, whether the ball is in play or not.

Unless Joey became a doctor or a certified trainer and he was tending to an injured Steeler.

 

[memento]

It was 48 degrees and rainy tonight in Ohio -- maybe this is what happens to game integrity when footballs go under 12.5psig

 

[QuantumMechanic]

What in the hell are you talking about?

No non-player can go to the middle of a field during a game, whether the ball is in play or not.

Now you're just making things up. Are you claiming the dudes who squirt gatorade into players' mouths and the dudes who bring out the cleat-scraping brushes are players? Because they sure as hell are on the field during the game during team and official timeouts. And coaches come on the field all the time during team and official timeouts. And not just head coaches.

 

[glm]

Unbelievable.

Best part is at the end of the clip when a referee gently valets Mr. Porter away from the threat of the actual players on the actual field.

Well he had to make sure the big bad bengals he was taunting didn't scuff up his shoes or any other tom foolery they might pull

 

[shmessy]

Now you're just making things up. Are you claiming the dudes who squirt gatorade into players' mouths and the dudes who bring out the cleat-scraping brushes are players? Because they sure as hell are on the field during the game during team and official timeouts. And coaches come on the field all the time during team and official timeouts. And not just head coaches.

Coaches do NOT come out to the middle of the field. Look at the clip. Porter is right in front of the Bengals logo at mid field.

When was the last time you saw ANY NFL coach out in the middle of the field at the 50 yard logo during a game?

If you think that is somehow standard or even within the rules of the NFL, then I can't help you there.

 

[Dr Pain]

Coaches do NOT come out to the middle of the field. look at the clip. Porter is right in front of the Bengals logo at mid field.

If you think that is somehow standard or even within the rules of the NFL, then I can't help you there.

It should have been a penalty too for unsportsman like

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Coaches do NOT come out to the middle of the field. Look at the clip. Porter is right in front of the Bengals logo at mid field.

When was the last time you saw ANY NFL coach out in the middle of the field at the 50 yard logo during a game?

If you think that is somehow standard or even within the rules of the NFL, then I can't help you there.

You're the one who falsely claimed non-players can never come on to the middle of the field (when they do so all the time), so I'm not the one who needs any help.

 

[shmessy]

You're the one who falsely claimed non-players can never come on to the middle of the field (when they do so all the time), so I'm not the one who needs any help.

Post #22

Quantum Mechanic: "It wasn't against the rules for him to be there. The ball was dead."


What I had posted was that " No non-player can go to the middle of a field during a game, whether the ball is in play or not."

Now, if you want to play the semantics game, then yes......grounds crews and Gatorade squirters can go on the field during a timeout. Mr. Porter was neither fixing the turf no squirting any Gatorade.

No coaching/team personnel can go out to the middle of the field during a game unless tending to an injured player.

For you to continue to argue regarding Joey Porter "It wasn't against the rules for him to be there. The ball was dead." is ridiculous.

 

[Danger Zone]

NFL Will Fine Coaches For Walking Onto Field | Jim Harbaugh

Unlike Dez Bryant, John Harbaugh penalized for walking on field - CBSSports.com

NFL to coaches: Don't go on the field during the game - CBSSports.com

NFL reminds clubs of sidelines' policy | NFL.com

 

[Gumby]

Now you're just making things up. Are you claiming the dudes who squirt gatorade into players' mouths and the dudes who bring out the cleat-scraping brushes are players? Because they sure as hell are on the field during the game during team and official timeouts. And coaches come on the field all the time during team and official timeouts. And not just head coaches.

Per rule book (someone linked in other thread) attendants and med staff allowed only during team timeouts (I assume TV /injury timeouts included) and nonplayers (asst coaches, inactives, and those active players not actively substituting) are not allowed on field without asking ref for permission first.

Someone else stated this is rarely enforced to letter of the law

However, if you need to have your refs stand at midfield in pregame to segregate, what reasonable person would not expect such a level at that point in game.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

What in the hell are you talking about?

No non-player can go to the middle of a field during a game, whether the ball is in play or not.

While that is technically true, it is often ignored (e.g., "Gotta see my guy"). If it's blatant it gets called (e.g., "Malcolm Butler! Unreal!"). But it basically never gets called when players come on to the field after an injury.

 

[shmessy]

While that is technically true, it is often ignored (e.g., "Gotta see my guy"). If it's blatant it gets called (e.g., "Malcolm Butler! Unreal!"). But it basically never gets called when players come on to the field after an injury.

I did not write "player".

Joey Porter is no longer a player.

 

[shmessy]

NFL Will Fine Coaches For Walking Onto Field | Jim Harbaugh

Unlike Dez Bryant, John Harbaugh penalized for walking on field - CBSSports.com

NFL to coaches: Don't go on the field during the game - CBSSports.com

NFL reminds clubs of sidelines' policy | NFL.com

He wasn't merely "on the field".

He was in the MIDDLE of the field right in front of the Bengals 50 yard line logo......... with the Steelers Offensive Squad.

Joey Porter is the Steelers Outside Linebackers Coach.

 

[Joker]

Porter, Burfict, Pacman...that's about 150 years of potential incarceration time post NFL careers

 

[shmessy]

1. Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard 3h3 hours ago
2. Why was Joey Porter even allowed on the field?

1. Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard 2h2 hours ago
2. Cue the memo from the league office reminding teams only medical personnel (and maybe the HC?) is allowed on the field during the game

 

[MainePatsFan26]

This game reminded me of old school NHL fights and concussions. I'm not sure that is a good thing, but don't lots of causal fans watch the NFL to see lots of violence? If so, this game had plenty of concussions, dinged up shoulders, and shattered egos to keep the dream alive of a Mad Max Thunderdome version of the NFL.

 

[AzorianPats]

No Joey Porter was trolling the bengals players and a red prevented him from getting in his face. He didn't actually shove anybody

God I hate Joey Porter...Always have, always will