Amendola

[Ivan]

I think it was the correct call.

I think it was a fumble, should have been challenged.

 

[MassPats38]

All I could think with Amendola's performance was who would believe, at the start of the Ravens game, that Revis would line up as the goat (never happens and likely won't again) and Amendola would line up as the hero?

I agree with Miguel that he is paid more than he is worth for his production to date. I would disagree if he gets them a title by continuing this story line. No doubt in my mind Lombardi insurance is worth $6 million per year, regardless of whether the player shows up in a regular season game.

 

[mihap]

I agree Welker deserves a lot more respect from the fans and posters. He dropped one pass and it was a big play, huge even but we would not have been in that situation to even lose the SB if not for Wes Welker. Amendola was huge today, has had big contributions in the past 3 games, he is doing well, I'm baking crow as we speak but Welker was one of the best players of the Belichick era.

Who was hero at the first Bills game last season 2013? Amendola won that game with over 100 jards and one or more TD, with injured groin/hips and he showed us that what is he capable of. Injury didnt helped him and edelman emergance also.
But talent is here. Same lvl as edelman. Tough kid just unlucky with injuries.

 

[Brady6]

Who was hero at the first Bills game last season 2013? Amendola won that game with over 100 jards and one or more TD, with injured groin/hips and he showed us that what is he capable of. Injury didnt helped him and edelman emergance also.
But talent is here. Same lvl as edelman. Tough kid just unlucky with injuries.

He had 10 catches for 104 yards and 0 touchdowns in that first game, it was a good game no doubt, but he did not win it for us, Shane Vereen had a huge day, and Edelman had 2 touchdown catches. Yesterday’s game was easily his best game; nothing else is even close in terms of impact and significance.

While I agree that the talent is there, and he appears to be a tough player, he is not on the same level as Edelman. Edelman is a top 25 WR in the NFL, Amendola is the #3 WR on his team. Edelman went out last night had 8 catches for 74 receiving yards, 3 punt returns for 45 yards, 1 completion for 51 yards and 1 touchdown, nobody even opened a thread about him. That speaks to how great a player he is, he can account for nearly 200 total yards and fly under the radar.

I think we can all salute Amendola without slighting Edelman or Welker in the process.

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Amendola's TD play was masterful.

1) he got open
2) he caught a low ball away from his body, clean, no juggle
3) he broke a tackle
4) stayed in bounds
5) He dived from 4 yards out for the TD

 

[Miguel]

I would disagree if he gets them a title by continuing this story line. No doubt in my mind Lombardi insurance is worth $6 million per year, regardless of whether the player shows up in a regular season game.

The rest of the team has carried Amendola to this point.
Where are the threads about the players who have been consistently helping the team win each and every week?

 

[Brady6]

Amendola's detractors, like myself, are only wrong if he plays the 2015 season on the Patriots roster at his $5.7 million cap figure. I am glad that he has finally played well but that will not change my opinion that he has been overpaid.

I was thinking they could restructure his deal for 3 years/$7.5M

Base salaries
2015 - $1M
2016 - $2M
2017 - $3M

Incentives
2015 - $500K
2016 - $500K
2017 - $500K

It seems like it would be a reasonable deal for both parties.

 

[Miguel]

Amendola already has a 500K incentives for receptions. Don't know level but they have to be at least more than 63 (his total in 2012 with Rams)

 

[doesntmatter1]

The rest of the team has carried Amendola to this point.
Where are the threads about the players who have been consistently helping the team win each and every week?

You somehow miss all of those appreciation threads? lol.

 

[Ivan]

Here's an idea, leave the contact talk until the offseason and enjoy the playoffs.

There will be more than enough time to discuss how Amendola needs to redo his deal or leave in a month or so.

 

[Miguel]

Imagine a player on another team who played with a top quarterback had Amendola's stats for the past two years and played the same as Amendola at the end of the 2014 season and the Patriots signed him in March to a 3 year deal with the following cap numbers
2015 - $5.7m
2016 - $6.7m
2017 -$7.7m.

Would anyone think that would be a good signing for the Patriots?

 

[Danger Zone]

I don't think there's a single person on this forum who hasn't at one point said something bad about Amendola. Hell, I think even @BradyToAmendola has said bad things about Amendola.

Buffet of crow, all we can eat.

We were praising his kick returns but I don't think anyone expected him to be this critical except for Ken.

I actually thought he was Edelman on his first TD pass

@BradyToAmendola might be talking to Ian as we speak to have gus named changed to EdelmantoAmendola

 

[RobertWeathers]

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...he-x-factor-for-tomorrows-game.1114838/page-2

Post #29. He made me look smart tonight. Kyle Arrington played pretty good as well, esp. since Browner went out.

Hope him and Stork are green lights for next week.

Browner gave credit to his replacement, Logan Ryan last night.

 

[Ivan]

The rest of the team has carried Amendola to this point.
Where are the threads about the players who have been consistently helping the team win each and every week?

Miguel, we have discussed Brady cleaning toilets. All the bases have been covered.

We can give the lost boy a little love.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I agree Welker deserves a lot more respect from the fans and posters. He dropped one pass and it was a big play, huge even but we would not have been in that situation to even lose the SB if not for Wes Welker. .

As a fan,I am appreciative of his performance and production here. When his career is over,WW will be welcomed to the Patriots HoF and I look forward to it.

However, I put him in the same category as Bill Buckner and Glen Wesley. The guy just didn't make the plays when he NEEDED to. I don't think that stigma is necessarily fair but thats kinda reality.

 

[MassPats38]

The rest of the team has carried Amendola to this point.
Where are the threads about the players who have been consistently helping the team win each and every week?

First, Miguel, I have stated repeatedly in other threads on Amendola that he has not earned his paycheck. I was not and am not disagreeing with you. Nor was I marginalizing the contribution of other players on the team during the course of the season (frankly, are you saying you disagree with the proposition that a player instrumental in winning a championship through repeated strong post-season performances cannot justify the a higher salary? The NFL season has two components (preseason doesn't count) - which means more to the team in the end? Would you pay $6 million from the cap if that meant the difference between winning and losing the title?).

A team has to get to the playoffs in order to win, and Amendola (other than one game) has not really helped to do that. But if a player could really turn it on at the end of the year and prove his worth, certainly to the level the player has a substantial and material impact in winning a title, then I would have no problem with a higher pay check. The statement I made was if a player turned it on to such a degree in the post-season that the team won a title, I would have no problem with the salary. Flacco and Eli Manning are not great QBs in the regular season (ie., the team carried them into the post-season), but both ride high salaries for what they did when it counted in the post-season. Are they worth it?

However, what I said generally represents an unreasonable hypothetical in contracts, as (1) you cannot reasonably project a player's impact in the postseason (injury, matchup, game plan - Manning and Flacco rode the post-title high to better deals than I believe they should have received), (2) this was one game (which started with him fumbling a kickoff), (3) you contractually value players on what they give year round as that is empirically assessable, and (4) the player would have to be uniquely capable of the performance. With that, as I stated at the outset, I would agree he is not worth the price with his performance to date.

 

[Kdo5]

He really pulled through big time. He was very dependable. I like his kick returns. He just charges straight ahead, gets solid returns.

His first TD really was awesome. Fantastic shaking off the defender, staying in bounds and going airborne. He also made one or two clutch catches where he reached out just enough to get the first downs. I feel great for Danny tonight. He showed up big time.

 

[RayClay]

The rest of the team has carried Amendola to this point.
Where are the threads about the players who have been consistently helping the team win each and every week?

Unfortunately, the importance of one marginal player has been wildly exaggerated on this forum, so a good effort seems like something heroic. I predicted they'd need to play some small ball and that he might be an unaccounted for receiver who might have a big game, because i am wicked smahht.

 

[Brewskies]

I must confess. Sometime in October or November I started a negative thread about Amendola. Based on his performance in the last 3 games I was too hard on him. I do think his contract needs to be restructured in the off season to reflex all the games he didn't show up or wasn't on TB target list. Maybe structured with performance bonuses.

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Amendola's 3rd & 6 catch and run is a top 10 play of the day for the Pats as well. It was HUGE at the time.

1) fields the ball clean gets up field immediately
2)Rashaan Melvin comes up attempts to tackle high(piss poorly) grabs around the head/neck DA bends down towards him and disengages.
3) Immediately spins and gets back upfield and is met by #41 who shows much better technique than Melvin and wraps up and drives Amendola to the sideline. At this point he is clearly short of the 1st.
4) Amendola while absorbing the contact, "pitter patters" his feet and buys time to stretch out the ball for a key 1st down.

Dude brought his A game. It's not about his reg season performance for me. I watched the game. He balled.