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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Collins, Hightower,Casillas (I suppose we could add Ayers)I think our Secondary is top 3 in the NFL. I think our LBs are top 5-7. Our DL is bottom 20 unfortunately and a good DL is the secret sauce to a lights out defense.
Having an amazing secondary certainly helps against elite QBs though.
Collins, Hightower,Casillas (I suppose we could add Ayers)
top 5-7?
Defensive rankings:
2001: pts #6, yds #24
2003: pts #1, yds #7
2004: pts #2, yds #9
2007: pts #4, yds #4
2011: pts #15, yds #31
2014: pts #13, yds #16 (but it feels so much better than that)
Collins, Hightower,Casillas (I suppose we could add Ayers)
top 5-7?
Defensive rankings:
2001: pts #6, yds #24
2003: pts #1, yds #7
2004: pts #2, yds #9
2007: pts #4, yds #4
2011: pts #15, yds #31
2014: pts #13, yds #16 (but it feels so much better than that)
Yeah, the bottom line is that our secondary has been the strong point of this current defense, but I have no idea what some are feeling with the front seven talk?
I think it's above average, but certainly not dominant, especially with Mayo out.
As we've seen though, we don't need to finish in a certain grouping to make the SB, so as long as they continue to show progress we should be in good shape. Obviously, they need to stay healthy due to the lack of depth etc.
In the last 3 games, playing a lot of nickel, we have allowed 50 rushers for 117 yards (excluding QB runs).
It doesn't get much more dominant than that.
I am impressed with their ability to shut down the run lately, but I don't see a comparison yet with the SB winning teams. Just my opinion.
I don't think we're going to look back and talk about Chris Jones, Dominique Easley, etc like they were on par with Warren, Wilfork, and Seymour; but the important thing is that they don't need to reach some imaginary bar that we set as fans, as long as they continue to play tough as they've been.
Collins, Hightower,Casillas (I suppose we could add Ayers)
top 5-7?
First Jones and Easley would be more likely compared to Bobby Hamilton and Jarvis Green.
Wilfork split time in his only SB season, and Warren was only a starter for one SB, which is why the 'compare the names approach never works for me'.
The post was directed at you saying the front 7 hasn't been dominant, and in the regard I posted of course they have
Totally agree. And assuming decent health, I think Vince, Dom, Branch, Siliga, Nink and Chandler have to be considered no worse than an average DL. Hell, I even like what I've seen out of Moore.
I don't see the current front seven on par with the SB winning teams, at least not yet.
Pointing out the fact that the '03 and '04 teams completely dominated in the front seven is a valid point. In my opinion, we are not there yet. It's really that simple.
"No worse than average" just doesn't sound to me like the dominating front sevens of the SB winning years.
That said, I am very happy with our current defense and think they can make quite a run.
If it were that simple, why were you name dropping as if that proves something?
The front 7 has been as dominant the last 3 games as we have seen. That is the simple part. I never said more or less than that.
Nor was it meant to. But the trend is very good.
While true, the defense did shut down the chargers and held the giants to 17 on days the Pats offense sucked. Defense nearly got them a super bowl in the end.I disagree. It's another case whee statistics out of context don't tell the story IMO. Our offense immediately forced other teams into being one dimensional and allowed our defense to play loose (how cautious do you need to be when your O is dropping a 40 spot on a regular basis)?
All that was required of that defense was to not screw up and they had lots of veterans, the same veterans who had looked out of gas in previous, more competitive seasons.
When every opponent is under pressure to score in the 30s and 40s, it distorts their offense and makes playing defense easier.
While true, the defense did shut down the chargers and held the giants to 17 on days the Pats offense sucked. Defense nearly got them a super bowl in the end.
I'm not really sure where you're going with this?
The point was that the 2014 front seven is not on the same plane as the front sevens from SB winning years.
Pointing out strong play from the past 21 days does not change that.
Yeah, the bottom line is that our secondary has been the strong point of this current defense, but I have no idea what some are feeling with the front seven talk?
I think it's above average, but certainly not dominant, especially with Mayo out.
In the last 3 games, playing a lot of nickel, we have allowed 50 rushers for 117 yards (excluding QB runs).
It doesn't get much more dominant than that.
People love to throw out the "skewed stats" fact, but when you look and see that 15/19 games were held to 237 passing yds or less that year (even less than yesterday's dominant performance) with a ton of garbage time, it really puts things in perspective.
They were pretty good.