Note to Ian

[Seymour93]

Maybe, I think in the end it's almost arbitrary and its just best to pick one forum philosophy and stick with it.

I don't think it's a huge deal either. It's just that the offseason is really slow and there's nothing else to talk about in the main forum.

 

[Deus Irae]

It's important that things of importance like the upcoming draft, currently the #1 newsworthy thing in football, for Patriots fans and the fans of all the other teams, be relegated to different areas so such all-important threads as

What former Patriots Player do you still own on some type of Apparel?(Jersey,Hat,ect)

Can get the focus that they so richly deserve. Lord knows, nobody's day is complete without knowing the answer to this life-altering question. It's much more important than who's going to be chosen as Bruschi's successor.

 

[Kdo5]

My problem is that the Patriots general forum has topics about other teams signing players.

Draft stuff about the Patriots, which is getting a hell of a lot of activity should be in the General Patriots forum, not threads about other teams signing players. They have nothing to do with the Pats. I say move the entire draft forum into the Pats general forum. It wouldnt be a mess because once the draft is over, the topics will go inactive and you wont see them again until the next draft.

More forums(subforums too) = Messy forum set up.

 

[PATRIOT64]

If all you guys who are all complaining about the Mods choices are so smart then stop whining and complaining about the draft threads being moved and try and use that brain of yours (even if its a small one) to come up with a topic that would be so interesting instead of bashing other threads,mine included along with bashing mods like Pats1 and others who were assigned this by Ian and must be respected to do the job.

Obviously those who complain,cry like a baby and whine are those who have nothing better to say and can't try and post anything whether it sucks as a topic or not and not being draft oriented,at least any try will get us thru this long offseason,even if the post is ridiculous or not to your liking ect:

BTW I could care less if ANY of you like ANYTHING I SAY or post,I don't know any of you nor do I care to know any personally - I am not here to make friends,nor am I here to win any 'prize post' award - Most of my latest posts were light hearted and meant in a friendly way whether it sounded stupid or not,some of you guys are too serious like your life evolves around 6 months of football season and nothing in between,I post here to pass time,don't like it? tough - You WILL live with it or simply leave the forum - Unless its by my own choosing (or doing something unacceptible and getting NEMed) I will be here.

If you can't think of anything to say constructively in YOUR OWN post then why not take a break out of your life..get some fresh air now that spring is here and come back to the forum late april/early may?

Give the mods a break too..Its only going to last a few more weeks till we can start talking about our new draftees and what they will do to help us win a championship..Until then come up with something minutely brilliant to talk about or stop complaining,take a chill pill and come back after the draft...Its that easy,After all April is now here.

There is life outside of this forum you know,try it sometime

 

[Kdo5]

If all you guys who are all complaining about the Mods choices are so smart then stop whining and complaining about the draft threads being moved and try and use that brain of yours (even if its a small one) to come up with a topic that would be so interesting instead of bashing other threads,mine included along with bashing mods like Pats1 and others who were assigned this by Ian and must be respected to do the job.

Obviously those who complain,cry like a baby and whine are those who have nothing better to say and can't try and post anything whether it sucks as a topic or not and not being draft oriented,at least any try will get us thru this long offseason,even if the post is ridiculous or not to your liking ect:

BTW I could care less if ANY of you like ANYTHING I SAY or post,I don't know any of you nor do I care to know any personally - I am not here to make friends,nor am I here to win any 'prize post' award - Most of my latest posts were light hearted and meant in a friendly way whether it sounded stupid or not,some of you guys are too serious like your life evolves around 6 months of football season and nothing in between,I post here to pass time,don't like it? tough - You WILL live with it or simply leave the forum - Unless its by my own choosing (or doing something unacceptible and getting NEMed) I will be here.

If you can't think of anything to say constructively in YOUR OWN post then why not take a break out of your life..get some fresh air now that spring is here and come back to the forum late april/early may?

Give the mods a break too..Its only going to last a few more weeks till we can start talking about our new draftees and what they will do to help us win a championship..Until then come up with something minutely brilliant to talk about or stop complaining,take a chill pill and come back after the draft...Its that easy,After all April is now here.

There is life outside of this forum you know,try it sometime

I havent read this entire thread but really chill out man.

Nobody is really bashing your thread. Theres nothing wrong with the thread. But in the Pats main forum some people dont want it looking boring with topics not involving important Patriots news, and draft talk. Another words, aside from the draft there isnt much to talk about in the Pats general forum.

 

[PATRIOT64]

It's important that things of importance like the upcoming draft, currently the #1 newsworthy thing in football, for Patriots fans and the fans of all the other teams, be relegated to different areas so such all-important threads as



Can get the focus that they so richly deserve. Lord knows, nobody's day is complete without knowing the answer to this life-altering question. It's much more important than who's going to be chosen as Bruschi's successor.

I'll bet you have trouble going to sleep at night lately till we solve the HUGE question of Bruschi's replacement-bet you will have HUGE bags under your eyes staying awake the whole month of april till we take the next great ILB

I know how you feel,when Bledsoe went down after that Mo Lewis hit I could not sleep a wink for the next 2 weeks,my life virtually all but ended during that period in time (sarcasm deserves sarcasm)

 

[PATRIOT64]

I havent read this entire thread but really chill out man.

Nobody is really bashing your thread. Theres nothing wrong with the thread. But in the Pats main forum some people dont want it looking boring with topics not involving important Patriots news, and draft talk. Another words, aside from the draft there isnt much to talk about in the Pats general forum.

Its not just me dude,Its just guys who can't think of anything positive to say when a time of the year is vitually empty outside the draft and instead of ridiculing and insulting posts they need to try and come up with something that is not related to draft material,True it may not be interesting and even humorous or ridiculous with some of my posts but you will have this ,this time of year 1 month before the draft,either come up with something to talk about of come back late april/may..Can't be any more simple.

If I don't like topics discussed on a certain day,I either shut off the computer of go to other interesting places on the net,You know there is more places to visit online than just porno sites,ebay and patsfans

 

[Deus Irae]

I'll bet you have trouble going to sleep at night lately till we solve the HUGE question of Bruschi's replacement-bet you will have HUGE bags under your eyes staying awake the whole month of april till we take the next great ILB


I know how you feel,when Bledsoe went down after that Mo Lewis hit I could not sleep a wink for the next 2 weeks,my life virtually all but ended during that period in time (sarcasm deserves sarcasm)

Context: this is a Patriots board. Let's analyze for just a moment:

Bruschi's replacement = important, given his drop in play last season, and his age

Draft = a question of future Patriots for this upcoming season, likely affecting play on the field

Jerseys = a question of former Patriots for this season, only affecting play on the field if people start tossing the old jerseys down onto the surface


I don't have a problem with any of these being on the main board. That's actually my point. At this time of the year, the draft issue is more important than some fans choice of clothing. Now, draft talk in the middle of September? That's where a "draft forum" for hardcore draft geeks would come in handy.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Context: this is a Patriots board. Let's analyze for just a moment:

Bruschi's replacement = important, given his drop in play last season, and his age

Draft = a question of future Patriots for this upcoming season, likely affecting play on the field

Jerseys = a question of former Patriots for this season, only affecting play on the field if people start tossing the old jerseys down onto the surface

Its light hearted posts,Don't be a fool on April 1 - Its a Patriots board...That Post was about former patriots - Come up with a post or can't you think of anything,even if its stupid or not? - As long as its patriots related and not draft material,its gonna be on there,Live with it.

That Apparel post got about 50 replies so far,Somebody was interested - Lets see YOU come up with a post that gets 50 non-smart aleck replies and then we can talk - O.K.?,I can't spell it out any easier for you - GO ahead,make us proud dude.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Context: this is a Patriots board. Let's analyze for just a moment:

Bruschi's replacement = important, given his drop in play last season, and his age

Draft = a question of future Patriots for this upcoming season, likely affecting play on the field

Jerseys = a question of former Patriots for this season, only affecting play on the field if people start tossing the old jerseys down onto the surface


I don't have a problem with any of these being on the main board. That's actually my point. At this time of the year, the draft issue is more important than some fans choice of clothing. Now, draft talk in the middle of September? That's where a "draft forum" for hardcore draft geeks would come in handy.

Now I am not going to say I disagree with you about the draft thing because the draft IS the MOST important stuff going on now and I myself would like it to be on the main board..But the fact lies that its not and won't be,You gotta respect Pats1 and other mods who move them when they appear on the main board...Its not gonna change by any petition and unfortunately weird stuff like my posts will show up until the draft is over.

 

[RayClay]

You implied that there's nothing to talk about because the off season is long and 95% of it is inactivity. Well what's the point of having the forum open if there's nothing to talk about?

There is no point. That's why the whole forum consists of nonsense threads by one or two posters.

It's off season, but we're not allowed to talk about off season activities in the main forum.

I agree 100% with Scott. There is no longer a general board about the off season, only specialized boards.

 

[RayClay]

I don't see why people are taking offense to their threads being moved. It's no big deal at all.

I (or any other moderator) have never personally asked a member if they "wanted" their thread moved. If it's more pertinent to a different forum, then it will be moved. It's for organization, not discipline. Nobody will think less of you because one of your threads was moved. I can assure you of that. Just continue your discussion as it left off.



The majority of members here desired those "OT" threads to be in separate forums. That's why those forums exist. By request.

The same members that are active in the Pats forum are usually active in the draft forum, too.

These are not "Off Topic" threads, they are about the only topics relevant to the Patriots now.

If you had a "nonsense thread" forum, the fron page would be blank.

Once the Pats signed those free agents, there isn'tmuch to talk about that doesn't concern the draft.

You can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[Deus Irae]

Now I am not going to say I disagree with you about the draft thing because the draft IS the MOST important stuff going on now and I myself would like it to be on the main board..But the fact lies that its not and won't be,You gotta respect Pats1 and other mods who move them when they appear on the main board...Its not gonna change by any petition and unfortunately weird stuff like my posts will show up until the draft is over.

The movement of the draft threads off the 'main' board when they are currently the 'main' issue facing Patriots fans is ridiculous, in my opinion. This is one of the two "dead" periods for NFL news. We're looking at threads about Jerseys, movies and the like. Shall we now move on to "Favorite cereal choices of the backup dbs"?

I have to abide by the rules of the forum. That doesn't mean I have to like every one of those rules. Furthermore, in this case, it's not just a rule, but an interpretation of the rule. The Patriots visit Merriweather: Is that Patriots or draft? How is it determined where it will go? Is there some definitive answer? No, it's the mods' interpretation.

Just think about how silly this is if taken to its logical conclusion: on draft day, if they follow Pats1's 'no tolerance' lead, the only thing one can be expected to give a damn about on a Patriots site won't even be allowed on the main forum. Well, it won't be allowed, that is, until 1 second AFTER the player is picked. Then, suddenly, it'll be ok to talk about the player, but not to mention anything about him being drafted (wrong forum), or who he was drafted ahead of (definitely wrong forum).

 

[RayClay]

Sey93, I think I gave a decent argument as to why the boards should be split ^^^^

Also, just look at the Planet and what a mess their front page is sometimes by not having more strict forums laid out.

The planet is more a social forum.

That's what we'll be left with when we aren't allowed to talk about football in the off season, except when the Patriots sign a free agent.

 

[RayClay]

Context: this is a Patriots board. Let's analyze for just a moment:

Bruschi's replacement = important, given his drop in play last season, and his age

Draft = a question of future Patriots for this upcoming season, likely affecting play on the field

Jerseys = a question of former Patriots for this season, only affecting play on the field if people start tossing the old jerseys down onto the surface


I don't have a problem with any of these being on the main board. That's actually my point. At this time of the year, the draft issue is more important than some fans choice of clothing. Now, draft talk in the middle of September? That's where a "draft forum" for hardcore draft geeks would come in handy.

That's what a draft forum is for.

Overload a specific forum with 29 viewing with general posts.

Have no relevant football stuff in the main forum with 163 viewers.

Somebody see the problem here?

 

[unoriginal]

People in this thread are shooting the messenger. There is a draft forum, created by the admin. Moderators are selected to maintain the board. If you don't like that draft threads are being moved to the draft forum, take the issue up with Ian and start a petition to remove that forum.

To those complaining that draft threads are more germane to the Pats general board than threads on Colts players, please review the board hierarchy. There is no "General NFL" board, only a board where mods move visiting posters' flamebait (hello Chargers fans!) to keep it from poisoning the general board.

If you want general nfl threads off the main board, ask for a general nfl board. If you want draft threads on the main board, ask to delete the draft board. Stop *****ing at the mods (or mod) just because he's the most visible bearer of bad news.

 

[notex]

I made this comment to the moderators last week and now I will make it once again. I have been a member of this board through several different incarnations, visiting several times a day to check on the latest news, and posting only from time to time. In my opinion the messagboards have become entirely too specialized, especially the draft forum.

During this time of year, there is little else to talk about than free agency and the draft. With all draft discussion moved off to the draft board, we are left with nothing but junk on the main board (with all due respect to the posters). Such threads as as "What player would make the best President," "What former Patriots Player do you still own on some type of Apparel?," and discussions comparing Brady to Brad Johnson are now the best this board has to offer? You've got to be kidding.

Yes, these types of posts have their place (I honestly didn't have a problem with last year's cheerleader thread), but in the past they have always been the "filler" discussions next to threads about the current status of the team. Right now that discussion should be the draft, but thanks to the new policy there is none to be had.

One of the responses I received last week was "just go over to the draft forum." That isn't the point. Many times I access this board from work while I have a few seconds of down time - I don't have the time or the inclination to go searching through every subcategory for the latest news. I mean, fifteen differant forums?

Another item that truly bothers me is the deletion of posts. In my opinion, the only times a post should be deleted is either when someone is spamming the board or posts an unattributed article. At this point in time, it seems to be common practice to delete posts for very little reason at all.

In the past we've had discussions with fans from other teams. Yes, there were a number of idiot trolls, but also some good posters. Now these folks have their own board and the main board is that much worse for their loss.

There seem to be moderators everywhere, not just moderating, but actively changing, moving, & deleting. It is getting out of hand. I encourage you to simplify things back to they used to be.

this is by far the worst thread ive opened in a while.....talk about boring offseason threads....if you have a legit football thread started there should be no problem with discussion. its the threads like these that should be deleted or moved....

 

[RayClay]

People in this thread are shooting the messenger. There is a draft forum, created by the admin. Moderators are selected to maintain the board. If you don't like that draft threads are being moved to the draft forum, take the issue up with Ian and start a petition to remove that forum.

To those complaining that draft threads are more germane to the Pats general board than threads on Colts players, please review the board hierarchy. There is no "General NFL" board, only a board where mods move visiting posters' flamebait (hello Chargers fans!) to keep it from poisoning the general board.

If you want general nfl threads off the main board, ask for a general nfl board. If you want draft threads on the main board, ask to delete the draft board. Stop *****ing at the mods (or mod) just because he's the most visible bearer of bad news.

There are many boards with draft forums. Draftniks dominate the draft forums and general posters discuss the draft in the general forum and refer to the draft forum occasionally.

Draftniks will also post in the general forum for topics that warrant it.

It is one of those things which works perfectly when left alone.

Posters know which board they intended to post on. Why dictate, rather than moderate?

 

[smg93]

I think a Draft Forum is needed, but for posts such as "USC's Pro Day" or "Nelson runs a 4.57."

It seems way too highly regulated at the moment. I made a post essentially about BBs postiive track record drafting Day 1 DBs and it was immediately moved.

No, its not hard for me to click to the Draft Forum (I do), but the simple fact is 90% of the members & posts occur in the main forum, so topics don't get the traction they would if they were simply in the main forum.

To sum, I think the Draft Forum is great for people wanting to talk about specific players, but when someone wants to talk about "Pats need go LB in Round 1" that is about the Patriots and it should be in the main forum.

Just my $0.02.

I totally agree

 

[Willie55]

Patriots specific related draft stuff should remain in the main forum. If it's a report on whether Brady Quinn ran at the combine or not, should be in the draft forum.

Moving a thread about BB's draft record with the Pats shouldn't have happened.

Just another point - when training camp rolls around is everything training camp related - Mrs. B's reports, our own poster's reports of attending training camp, and articles from the media which are related to the Pats - going to be moved to the Training Camp Forum?

I just think a little discrection needs to be used.