Hernandez attacked fellow inmate

[Fencer]

He is not in prison currently. He is in jail,

Whenever the relevant sheriff is quoted, he makes that sound like a distinction with very little difference.

 

[Bella*chick]

Could this guy have turned his life into a bigger mushroom cloud?

 

[Brady6]

Whenever the relevant sheriff is quoted, he makes that sound like a distinction with very little difference.

I am sure the sheriff being the super hero he thinks he is likes to believe that but it is very different. Jail is to house temporary inmates or short-term offenders, and prisons are for long-term confinement. Most people at a jail are awaiting trial or doing a sentence of 5 years or less, and if they were convicted their conviction occurred in district court and therefore they were not indicted (by a grand jury) into superior court.

You see junkies, first time offenders and teenagers in county in terms of convicted inmates, those being held on pending charges if serious will be kept in solitary otherwise the lesser charges are sent to gen pop.

 

[1960Pats]

Football plays aside, this is the first occasion on which I've heard of Hernandez being in involved in an act of violence and find that my initial sympathies are with him.

The entire rest of his life will be exceptionally tedious, and that is a richly deserved punishment. But it's also punishment enough.

If he's guilty of the crime or crimes he's accused of, then being forced into a life of tedium is not a suitable enough punishment.

I sort of like the way the Russians used to penalize killers. After he got convicted and went through his appeals (not sure of the time length but it wasn't a drawn out process) the convict went into a small individual cell where at any point in the next week or so a guard would look into the little window, pull out a weapon and put one into the convicts head as he waited. I wonder if they still do that. It seems like it could be an effective deterrent.

 

[1960Pats]

I had the exact same thought. No such think as coincidences in prison. (google Father Geoghan and Jeffrey Dahmer for examples of prison justice) May not have had anything to do with the Hernandez camp though. If the prison guards have taken a liking to AH and knew he was being harassed they just might have arranged for AH to be in striking distance of this guy.

I think prison guards are just as vulnerable as the inmates to an attack, and try to get along with all of them.

 

[Joker]

He is not in prison currently. He is in jail, and I would be willing guess Hernandez has one of the heaviest charges pending or convicted of any one being houses at that facility.

WTF is THIS...some kind of pizzing contest AGAIN from you?? You do not know ONE THING about who is in this jail awaiting charges. What is it with you anyway...you got that "Never Wrong!!!" disease or what? YOU are willing to guess??? I'm willing to guess YOU know ZERO about anything to do with corrections outside of what you've seen on the movie channels. The truth is, awaiting trial is JAIL can be and more often than not IS more dangerous than doing time in prison.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I defer to both Joker & Brady6 in this in their longtime prison experiences

If this thread goes sideways to a deliciously detailed discussion of young girlz gone wild in prison will it get MOVED?

 

[zoostation]

There goes the idea that AH was gonna be anyone's ***** in the slammer ...

Are you serious. Who in their right mind would think AH would become someone's ****** in a local jail? A pre trial county jail? The only reason the guy that got his butt kicked was running his mouth was because AH is removed from the general population and the dude never anticipated AH having a crack at him.

When he is eventually convicted and transferred to prison, he will run the place (for whatever that's worth). He will also always have the backing of the entire Spanish inmate population (in both jail and state prison).

It's silly to think a 6'4" ex NFL athlete will be anyone's ****** in either the county clubhouse or up state. Obviously if he pisses anyone off, rats or goes outside the inmate code all bets are off. But I see the state inmates using him as an ally (again, for what that's worth) and his next 20 years being one of the top Spanish players in the prison population. Especially if he has any cash left in the bank. Just my opinion.

 

[Joker]

I think prison guards are just as vulnerable as the inmates to an attack, and try to get along with all of them.

Bristol County jail is a modular facility. The officers are in as little danger as modern corrections allows. It's all mods with a bubble where the guards control the locks electronically.Any moron ****s with a guard they get seg with a bare mattress, no mail, no TV, no reading material and barely enough food to survive on.You sit there 24/7 and rot. After a few weeks the guards MAY let you out for a shower and an hour.

Hernandez is in seg right now.

 

[Jackson 2]

WTF is THIS...some kind of pizzing contest AGAIN from you?? You do not know ONE THING about who is in this jail awaiting charges. What is it with you anyway...you got that "Never Wrong!!!" disease or what? YOU are willing to guess??? I'm willing to guess YOU know ZERO about anything to do with corrections outside of what you've seen on the movie channels. The truth is, awaiting trial is JAIL can be and more often than not IS more dangerous than doing time in prison.

There goes Joker again., typically ****yfooting around an issue instead of speaking with conviction. C'mon, man...

 

[Tunescribe]

I'm waiting for info on how Ahern finally got a crack at his "tormentor." Is it assumed the guy was set up?

 

[Joker]

Here's an example of how ridiculous the "it's only jail so it's safe" canard is...

Freddie Bishop shotgunned Jimmy Dunn in 1973 and got life in the ACI...he was released after 25 years or so and murdered a neighbor 6 months later. The state police yoked him up and sent him back to JAIL, the Intake Center, to await arraingment. The day he was led into A mod there's an old fellow inmate Harold Drew, the former 16 year old kid from North Kingstown that murdered Zeke the antique dealer ...also back in JAIL on a violation. What violation? He got out after 20 years, got high on smack, grabbed a dancer from the Foxy Lady and hooked up with a B+E artist he knew form the joint. The guy screwed up and Drew blew his brains out in the woods of Exeter. That's just TWO of the monster that populate "jail". I'm not talking out of my azz with some kind of video game comprehension of things.

 

[Brady6]

WTF is THIS...some kind of pizzing contest AGAIN from you?? You do not know ONE THING about who is in this jail awaiting charges. What is it with you anyway...you got that "Never Wrong!!!" disease or what? YOU are willing to guess??? I'm willing to guess YOU know ZERO about anything to do with corrections outside of what you've seen on the movie channels. The truth is, awaiting trial is JAIL can be and more often than not IS more dangerous than doing time in prison.

Wow, I think you need a drink or a valium my man. I was not looking to have a “pissing contest” with anyone and no, I do not think I am always right, I am often wrong and I admit it consistently, which I will do right now when I say I was very wrong when I thought I could quote your post without you having this type of tantrum. As far as the never wrong disease I would say kettle meet pot because clearly this outburst indicates that you really do not like being wrong.

As far as what I know about jail and prison your guess would be catastrophically wrong, I actually spent my 15th and 16th birthday in the custody of DYS which his juvenile detention before I got my **** together graduated high school and joined the USAF. In addition to my personal experiences as a teen, my father died exactly 2 years ago and 8 days as an inmate at FCI Fairton in New Jersey, and my cousin who is the same age as me and my best friend growing up has spent about half his adult life in and out of jails and prison.

The truth is those in jail awaiting trial do not get put into general population if their crimes are more excessive than the convicted offenders that are housed at that facility. Maybe on television, they put the murderer in the same room as the kid who was picked up for stealing Adderall out of cars but in the real world, the murderers are kept in solitary confinement.

I show you respect Joker, I never give you a hard time and this response to my post was completely unnecessary, if you have an issue with me you can come to me in PM and we can address it 1on1 but blowing up at me for quoting your post to offer a clarification is uncalled for and disrespectful.

 

[supafly]

Jail is to house temporary inmates or short-term offenders, and prisons are for long-term confinement. Most people at a jail are awaiting trial or doing a sentence of 5 years or less

Normally, it's up to 2 years for "jail." Anything over 2 years (or in Pennsylvania 23 1/2 months) will have the offender sent to "prison" to do state time.

I'm sure it varies a bit by different state, but I'd be surprised if you needed to be sentenced to anything more than 2 yrs, since that's normally the standard.

I can't see many scenarios where the county jail level would have the resources to house those who were sentenced to 3-4 years, for example.

those being held on pending charges if serious will be kept in solitary otherwise the lesser charges are sent to gen pop.

Solitary or medical ward (which is what Hernandez is technically in) are used for circumstances where the offender may have an issue that prevents them from doing well in general pop.

It could be anything from a past suicide attempt, to needing to take medication--with many variables in between.

This is often mixed up with the truer definition of "solitary" which is normally used to house inmates who can't get along with others and/or have committed some type of offense which calls for punishment.

In Hernandez's case, he's not being punished. He's on the medical ward which is separate from the rest of the normal population. Obviously, that's due to his popularity and status as a "star."

Not that you necessarily stated much differently, just thought I'd add to the thought.

 

[Joker]

I'll tell you right here and now...you are full of it. That last post is some confessional of yours you probably used the last ten years of your life.

"The truth is those in jail awaiting trial do not get put into general population if their crimes are more excessive than the convicted offenders that are housed at that facility. Maybe on television, they put the murderer in the same room as the kid who was picked up for stealing Adderall out of cars but in the real world, the murderers are kept in solitary confinement. "

Total B.S. There is NO general population in modular jails you incipient moron.You are WRONG again. As for "they don't put the murderer in the same cell with the car thief", YOU a1re totally and unequivocally WRONG again. Obviously you learned NOTHING in training school. They should have taught you "don't write checks with your mouth that your azz can't cash".

Here's how it goes , you get arrested you go to Intake. You get sent to one of the awaiting trail mods. You get who you get for a cellmate. Ahern is in PC BECAUSE he is a celebrity. A TARGET. THAT is why he is in PC. Again, solitary is a PUNITIVE measure. Please ..just shut the you know what up about what YOU THINK you know and go back to bashing Amendola.

 

[supafly]

If I saw Hernandez, I'd kick him squarely in the nuts like a girl for costing us a SB appearance, and then I'd run like hell...

 

[Brady6]

Normally, it's up to 2 years for "jail." Anything over 2 years (or in Pennsylvania 23 1/2 months) will have the offender sent to "prison" to do state time.

I'm sure it varies a bit by different state, but I'd be surprised if you needed to be sentenced to anything more than 2 yrs, since that's normally the standard.

I can't see many scenarios where the county jail level would have the resources to house those who were sentenced to 3-4 years, for example.

I believe they can house up to 5 year but you are correct usually you do not see more than 24-36 months in county, I have never anyway. I think it has more to do with the cases, usually jail inmates are convicted out of district court so they do not do state time, some who plead out in superior court can go to county (my cousin did that and ended up doing 18 months but had he gone to trial he would have went to state). Some actually say in terms of doing time the state prisons are better than the county jails, which is interesting to me.

As far as Hernandez goes my belief is that Hernandez will never see the outside again, and not even because I think he will get convicted of first degree murder and get life without parole, Hernandez seems to lack any regard for human life unlike anyone I have followed in a long time, if not ever. He murders people (or tries to murder) inside his sphere of influence, engages in shooting on public roads from a moving vehicle, he does these things while in contract negotiations (2012) for $40M and on his first father’s day as a father (2013). For this reason, I feel that even a conviction of five years for the weapons charges will be something that he propels into life without parole, because he will murder a fellow inmate within 6 months of hitting gen pop. I could be wrong but he really strikes me as the type who kills without much reason.

 

[supafly]

Some actually say in terms of doing time the state prisons are better than the county jails, which is interesting to me.

Yes, the state prisons have many more perks for the inmates as opposed to the county jails--where time goes by very slowly.

Many of the state prisons have small TVs that you can have in your cell. They also allow smoking, which is extremely rare for county jails anymore.

I think the food is also better (arguably), along with the fact that you can have privates visits with your loved ones--depending on the specific environment. Some even offer visits with the wife in a private setting.

County jail sucks.

 

[Brady6]

I'll tell you right here and now...you are full of it. That last post is some confessional of yours you probably used the last ten years of your life.

"The truth is those in jail awaiting trial do not get put into general population if their crimes are more excessive than the convicted offenders that are housed at that facility. Maybe on television, they put the murderer in the same room as the kid who was picked up for stealing Adderall out of cars but in the real world, the murderers are kept in solitary confinement. "

Total B.S. There is NO general population in modular jails you incipient moron.You are WRONG again. As for "they don't put the murderer in the same cell with the car thief", YOU a1re totally and unequivocally WRONG again. Obviously you learned NOTHING in training school. They should have taught you "don't write checks with your mouth that your azz can't cash".

Here's how it goes , you get arrested you go to Intake. You get sent to one of the awaiting trail mods. You get who you get for a cellmate. Ahern is in PC BECAUSE he is a celebrity. A TARGET. THAT is why he is in PC. Again, solitary is a PUNITIVE measure. Please ..just shut the you know what up about what YOU THINK you know and go back to bashing Amendola.

Joker can I tell you how out of line you are right here, you sound like a childish fool. I am actually embarrassed for you and feel bad that this back and forth has you reacting like a 12-year-old bully on the school bus calling people names. If you would like to continue to humiliate yourself for all to see please proceed.

Also if you would like to wager the so called BS let me know, cause you are wrong and you know you’re wrong otherwise you would not be having a temper tantrum like my son when I take his iPad away.

I am actually at a loss for words, I really thought you were better than this, I held you in high regard and this is completely unexpected, guess you could call me disappointed.

 

[Galeb]

If I saw Hernandez, I'd kick him squarely in the nuts like a girl for costing us a SB appearance, and then I'd run like hell...

What's your 40 time?