Tebow released

[chicowalker]

Agree with you chicowalker. Tebow is athletic enough and given his work ethic and locker room presence he could make it at another position/special teams monster. Sadly it's clear from Tebow's own comments that being an NFL QB is his one and only focus.

I think he would still make sense for another team to give him a shot, if they are weak at the position and want a nontraditional offense. But I don't see that as a long term option.

Maybe at some point he would want to just play football, regardless of position.

 

[Ring 6]

If Tebow wants to spend 300 days work (really working) with Tom House at his throwing clinic, then I'd be more than happy to see him back at Patriots training camp next season.

He's a great kid who has gotten lousy QB instruction and was not well-served in that regard. Give him intensive 300 day (with few distractions) expert throwing instruction and I'd like to see what he could do.

The problem is that 300 days from now, guys with more talent will have honed it for 300 more days too, and guys who are not eligible for the league yet will get drafted who are also better.
I don't know why people talk about improvement as if it is a characteristic of Tebow and that he is the only one who can. "If he works hard, and practices, he might get better" pretty much applies to everyone who would like a job as an NFL QB.

 

[Tunescribe]

So, Tim still believes he can be an NFL quarterback. Why? Doesn't he watch himself on film? Doesn't he see his own problems with throwing mechanics and reads that the best coaches in the business have failed to help him solve, OVER FOUR YEARS WITH THREE TEAMS?

You think he would conclude by now, "I gave it a shot. I don't have it. I'm grateful for the opportunity to have tried. Time to move on in life." Tebow has a way of making people doubt reality -- including myself during his (thankfully) brief Patriots tenure. Perhaps that's because he's a stranger to it himself.

 

[shmessy]

The problem is that 300 days from now, guys with more talent will have honed it for 300 more days too, and guys who are not eligible for the league yet will get drafted who are also better.
I don't know why people talk about improvement as if it is a characteristic of Tebow and that he is the only one who can. "If he works hard, and practices, he might get better" pretty much applies to everyone who would like a job as an NFL QB.

#1) Not many have the funds and the time to work 300 days with Tom House. If Tebow takes off a year, he will. He IS in a very unique position.

#2) Not many have his natural talent. There too, he is in a very unique position.

This is a guy who needs a football intervention. This is analogous (but in no way similar) to someone going to a drug rehab. This guy needs to fully skip a season and go to QB rehab.

Otherwise, it is time to start training to be a fullback. He definitely picks up yards.

Other than that, honestly, I look at the team the Patriots face for Game 1 of this season and see no reason why they wouldn't want to stick him in there running the Wildcat instead of what they currently have.

 

[Tunescribe]

#1) Not many have the funds and the time to work 300 days with Tom House. If Tebow takes off a year, he will. He IS in a very unique position.

#2) Not many have his natural talent. There too, he is in a very unique position.

This is a guy who needs a football intervention. This is analogous (but in no way similar) to someone going to a drug rehab. This guy needs to fully skip a season and go to QB rehab.

Otherwise, it is time to start training to be a fullback. He definitely picks up yards.

Other than that, honestly, I look at the team the Patriots face for Game 1 of this season and see no reason why they wouldn't want to stick him in there running the Wildcat instead of what they currently have.

Shmess, I fear you are infected with what I call, "Tebow Unreality Syndrome" (see my prior post). It's a condition in which the observer rationalizes his way into believing that somehow, Tebow can succeed in the NFL at quarterback or another position if he does this or that/gets proper guidance/works hard enough, etc. The bottom line: he can't throw with consistency, and all his rushing yardage has been via quarterback draws or scrambles from passing formation. He'll never be a quarterback. He'll never be a fullback. He's done as an NFL prospect.

 

[KG5]

#2) Not many have his natural talent. There too, he is in a very unique position.

This is the opposite of the truth. The problem he has is a complete lack of natural talent at passing the ball. The best thing you can say about his passing ability is that he throws a poor deep ball. It goes downhill from there.

He's a fiery guy with a good work ethic, but that's just not enough. I have no idea if he ever gets another shot, but I'm confident that he'll never be a successful starting QB in the NFL.

 

[Awesomo 3000]

I think he would still make sense for another team to give him a shot, if they are weak at the position and want a nontraditional offense. But I don't see that as a long term option.

Maybe at some point he would want to just play football, regardless of position.

The 49ers seem like a possible fit. Their backups are horrible, and Tebow, even with his struggles, could be an upgrade over them. He could fit right into their offensive philosophy, too, if kap goes down.

 

[ausbacker]

The 49ers seem like a possible fit. Their backups are horrible, and Tebow, even with his struggles, could be an upgrade over them. He could fit right into their offensive philosophy, too, if kap goes down.

Tebow isn't a fit for any NFL team as a starter or Back Up. He's an awful throw of the football in the NFL.

Worth ethic and want can take you only so far. If you want to be a surgeon but have hands that like to salsa, you're not going to be allowed to operate.

It's time for Tebow to move on to greener pastures.

 

[Awesomo 3000]

Tebow isn't a fit for any NFL team as a starter or Back Up. He's an awful throw of the football in the NFL.

Worth ethic and want can take you only so far. If you want to be a surgeon but have hands that like to salsa, you're not going to be allowed to operate.

It's time for Tebow to move on to greener pastures.

I wouldn't call any of SF's backups "surgeons", or even a "fit" as backups. They aren't any better than Tebow. If kaper goes down, McCoy will drag the 9ers down with him.

 

[ausbacker]

I wouldn't call any of SF's backups "surgeons", or even a "fit" as backups. They aren't any better than Tebow. If kaper goes down, McCoy will drag the 9ers down with him.

The Tebow supporters can sing his merry dance as much as they like. The reality is he's just not good enough to be a Quarterback in the NFL given his technical throwing issues.

If Brady goes down you could argue Mallett will drag the Patriots down with him. Few back ups are Steve Young in waiting. I realize that comment can be used to support Tebow. Unfortunately for Tebow, he's had several bites of the cherry and proven he's just not up to it.

 

[situational_awareness]

Worst part about all this...

I will have to eventually sign up at *yet another* forum, and take abuse from *yet another* fan base.

I'm tired of moving.

Tim Tebow's career is becoming Biblical. And it's the gritty, harsh, Old Testament style of Biblical.

 

[Joker]

take the sackcloth...leave the unleavened bread....

 

[Concerned_Citizen]

If Tebow wants to spend 300 days work (really working) with Tom House at his throwing clinic, then I'd be more than happy to see him back at Patriots training camp next season.

He's a great kid who has gotten lousy QB instruction and was not well-served in that regard. Give him intensive 300 day (with few distractions) expert throwing instruction and I'd like to see what he could do.

Thing is, he has already invested countless hours on trying to improve on his passing, and for the most part, he really hasn't, and it has been four years. Starting to look like it isn't gonna happen.

Even if they did decide to invest that kind of time and effor, I'm not sure it will work.

People may as well face it, Tebow is done. Nice kid, but he just isn't cut out to be an NFL QB. Throwing is only part of his problem. There has been a lot out there suggesting he struggled with playbooks and remembering plays. He also had a really tough time learning from watching videos and such. I think his dyslexia is a bigger contributing problem in that regard than people want to admit. He's purely a hands on kind of guy, and that means he needs game time to do his learning. He's not going to get that, and if he does, that coach and franchise will need to be extremely patient and hope it works. Even that isn't a safe bet.

 

[Concerned_Citizen]

Worst part about all this...

I will have to eventually sign up at *yet another* forum, and take abuse from *yet another* fan base.

I'm tired of moving.

Tim Tebow's career is becoming Biblical. And it's the gritty, harsh, Old Testament style of Biblical.

I'm sure there are some familiar faces that will abuse Tebow fans on other sites. The reactions from Teboners to the slightest criticism is too damn funny to pass up.

 

[Concerned_Citizen]

The Tebow supporters can sing his merry dance as much as they like. The reality is he's just not good enough to be a Quarterback in the NFL given his technical throwing issues.

If Brady goes down you could argue Mallett will drag the Patriots down with him. Few back ups are Steve Young in waiting. I realize that comment can be used to support Tebow. Unfortunately for Tebow, he's had several bites of the cherry and proven he's just not up to it.

Of course these backups are better than Tebow. That's why the number of teams looking to signing him this offseason even as a third stringer was an extremely short list. He just isn't good and it is time for people to stop thinking he is just as good if not better than those guys. If he were, I guarantee he'd have a job.

Truth is, Tebow has had more chances than just about anyone else with his level of skillset. The reason for that is because of who he is, combined with the fact that the Broncos won a few games with him at QB behind a defense that fairly often allowed his 10 points or so on offense, less than 50% completion percentage, last place passing in most major categories, and league leading three and outs... be JUUUUSSST enough to string together some wins. These idiots think getting carried by a defense holding the other team to two scores or less per game made him good. But just about any scrub in the league could do that. Kyle Orton was 23-2 when that happened. Few thought he was good. That success, however much one wants to credit to Tebow, is getting further back in the rear view mirror and he will no longer get have that carry his job search. Guess he's just gonna have to... I dunno, maybe learn to throw?

EDIT - Actually, now that I think about it, Buffalo's QB situation can't get worse than it is. I'm kinda hoping they sign Tebow. I could use the comic relief.

 

[robbomango]

He gave it a shot it didn't work out, I wish Tebow the best. As fixit noted, only criminals are worth rooting against, not the good guys. When I hear "well hey, there are a lot of good guys in the nfl" my answer to them is "cool, I'll root for them as well, especially if they're a patriot"....

TT fans have been cool, I hope you guys stick around for the season or at least pop in every now and again. Battle hardened, football forum nomads, lol.

Peace...

 

[Demosthenes]

Shmess, I fear you are infected with what I call, "Tebow Unreality Syndrome" (see my prior post). It's a condition in which the observer rationalizes his way into believing that somehow, Tebow can succeed in the NFL at quarterback or another position if he does this or that/gets proper guidance/works hard enough, etc. The bottom line: he can't throw with consistency, and all his rushing yardage has been via quarterback draws or scrambles from passing formation. He'll never be a quarterback. He'll never be a fullback. He's done as an NFL prospect.

Can't speak for Shmess, but for me, it's because I watched Tebow throw the ball VERY CONSISTENTLY in his three years as a starter at Florida. Consistency never was a problem for him, nor was accuracy (at the college level).

Most who have followed the Tebow threads have seen the stats mentioned. He had a higher completion % and a much higher passer rating that many of the "Top" NFL QBs out there today.

Somewhere along the line, while trying to change his mechanics and speed up his delivery, that consistency and accuracy got broken.

Who knows, maybe spending 300 days with Tom House and putting in 20,000 or more reps in that time might finally "fix" things.

Then again, maybe it won't. BUT, if he still wants to try and be an NFL QB, that's the kind of thing that might help.

 

[ausbacker]

Can't speak for Shmess, but for me, it's because I watched Tebow throw the ball VERY CONSISTENTLY in his three years as a starter at Florida. Consistency never was a problem for him, nor was accuracy (at the college level).

Most who have followed the Tebow threads have seen the stats mentioned. He had a higher completion % and a much higher passer rating that many of the "Top" NFL QBs out there today.

Somewhere along the line, while trying to change his mechanics and speed up his delivery, that consistency and accuracy got broken.

Who knows, maybe spending 300 days with Tom House and putting in 20,000 or more reps in that time might finally "fix" things.

Then again, maybe it won't. BUT, if he still wants to try and be an NFL QB, that's the kind of thing that might help.

College football isn't NFL football Demosthenes. We see it all too often with College Football stars who can't cut it long term in the NFL. It's just one of those things.

If Josh McDaniels, the guy who drafted you in the first round realizes he's not going to improve you with the best head coach football has seen in the last 20 years, you should probably read something into that.

 

[Demosthenes]

College football isn't NFL football Demosthenes. We see it all too often with College Football stars who can't cut it long term in the NFL. It's just one of those things.

I understand that Aus. In my view, Tebow's biggest problem is his inconsistency in passing. Reading defenses and going through progressions are secondary problems. If Tebow had gone out there and completed 60+% of his pass attempts, the conversations would have been much different.

 

[ausbacker]

I understand that Aus. In my view, Tebow's biggest problem is his inconsistency in passing. Reading defenses and going through progressions are secondary problems. If Tebow had gone out there and completed 60+% of his pass attempts, the conversations would have been much different.

Being an accurate passer and being able to read, decipher and call correct protection audibles for a Quarterback are pretty bloody important (unless you're Jay Cutler who runs the play anyway then wonders why he's thrown an interception or has been sacked).

In most sports that I've had experiences with, the step up to the speed at the elite level is what kills most lower league stars. They look a billion dollars in the lower leagues at game speed appropriate for their level.

That's something that should never be discounted when discussing the NFL. Everything happens so damned fast.