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I think it's right in a way and wrong in a way, but that's not the point. The point is that is the way they are judged, so you can't come in now and say that Tebow's wins are meaningless and move the goalposts just because you don't like one particular player.
Where did I say I don't like him?
And no it's never right in a way, it's always the wrong way to judge a QB.
No, no, and no to all your questions.
Really, cause I would think if QB's really win games the answers should be clear cut yes. The Dilfer one is the most stark reason why you don't give QB's sole credit for "wins".
So then, you agree that when the Broncos lost, it wasn't Tebow's fault? You agree that the team "backed into the playoffs" because the TEAM was not playing well?
If the QB stinks it up, obviously he would be a reason why they lost but not THE reason. That is not possible in a team sport like football. Wins and losses in the end are always team stats. Always. And the QB is part of the team last I checked.
I'll go back to the baseball analogy again. Pitchers can win games for a baseball team all by himself by striking out every hitter he sees. There is no such paradigm in football. QB's cannot possibly win games for teams so why do they get credit for it?
I don't agree. A QB can definitely win or lose a game for a team. Philip Rivers and Mark Sanchez last year are some good examples.
With that logic I can argue the same for other players. Adrian Peterson won a lot of games last year. Why won't anyone talk about his W-L record? And do you agree that Rahim Moore went 0-1 in the playoffs this year when he got beat by Jacoby Jones. I can go on and on.
It worked greatly? I thought you said Tebow sucks and looked like garbage? Now it worked greatly? Which one is it? lol.
It worked greatly until the Pats showed the league how to stop that offense. The point is the coaching staff created an offense for Tebow that didn't expose his flawed skills as a passer. Hence, credit to the TEAM - not the QB alone - for making it work greatly for a while.