Dennard arrested for DUI

[Oswlek]

Sure, it was stupid, but it is not like he committed violence against somebody.

I think you and I might have a different opinion on how serious DUI really is.

 

[goheels22002]

The bottom-line is that the Patriots should not sacrificing their chances of winning a superbowl because of a minor blip on the PR radar. This Dennard thing will blow over..The Hernandez issue is a separate issue and has nothing to do with Dennard.

DUI is a misdemeanor, you do not cut a guy for making a minor mistake.

How many chances do you give this guy?

You gave him a huge opportunity by drafting him onto a Super Bowl team four days after he assaulted police.

Then you kept him after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting police while a member of your team.

Now you'd give him a pass for violating the terms of his probation with a DUI charge two weeks before camp opens.

Where do you draw the line? Where would your employer draw the line?

 

[Ivan]

The bottom-line is that the Patriots should not sacrificing their chances of winning a superbowl because of a minor blip on the PR radar. This Dennard thing will blow over..The Hernandez issue is a separate issue and has nothing to do with Dennard.

DUI is a misdemeanor, you do not cut a guy for making a minor mistake.

While I agree that he should be judged by the same standards as any other player and not by PR considerations due to the Hernandez situation the claim that DUI is a "minor mistake" is total crap, DUI is a serious mistake that puts other peoples lives in danger. I would not release Dennard over this but i would bring him in and let him know he is out of chances and the next mistake will be his last as a Patriot.

 

[Dingleberry]

Cut Dennard? I sure hope the Patriots are not that reactionary because a thug gangbanger took a giant deuce on their offer of a life of wealth and fame.

As long as Dowling can stay healthy for the first part of the season, all should be fine once any suspension (likely) or jail time (less likely) is served.

Patriot way? Patriot brand? Please. What is this, Fantasy Land?

 

[Pewsterbaby]

I think you and I might have a different opinion on how serious DUI really is.

Lemme rephrase that for you -

I think the whole world might have a different opinion on how serious DUI really is in comparison to this ignoramus'.

 

[Ivan]

How many chances do you give this guy?

You gave him a huge opportunity by drafting him onto a Super Bowl team four days after he assaulted police.

Then you kept him after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting police while a member of your team.

Now you'd give him a pass for violating the terms of his probation with a DUI charge two weeks before camp opens.

Where do you draw the line? Where would your employer draw the line?

The Nebraska incident was well known to them when they took him, you can't treat that as something that he did after he was drafted, however the probation violation is a good point and that could end up being his real problem here. A hard line judge could end up sending him to jail to do his sentence and that could spell the end in NE for him.

 

[Nunchucks]

How many chances do you give this guy?

You gave him a huge opportunity by drafting him onto a Super Bowl team four days after he assaulted police.

Then you kept him after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting police while a member of your team.

Now you'd give him a pass for violating the terms of his probation with a DUI charge two weeks before camp opens.

Where do you draw the line? Where would your employer draw the line?

Um, WTF does drafting him have to do anything? The guy would have ended up on an NFL roster no matter what happened. He is a starting caliber NFL CB. You know how many there are in the league? Less than enough to fill out 32 teams. He made a mistake, a really dumb arse mistake, at a really bad time for the team, but that is no ground to cut a guy. Especially with 31 other teams frothing at the mouth to get a starting CB and laughing at the Patriots silliness to cut a guy for a 1st offense DUI.

 

[tasmlab]

Willie Andrews is available if Denard gets cut:

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[voluntarysaftey]

There are a lot of differences.

1) Stallworth wasn't on the team at the time of his DUI.

2) Stallworth wasn't on probation having just been sentenced just three months earlier.

3) Stallworth didn't do this in the immediate wake of the franchise's biggest black eye.

As for the Gronk or Brady, they wouldn't have been on probation and this wouldn't be the second criminal activity they've been caught up in in the last year.

I can see where you are coming from, but I have to admit to disagreeing.

I agree. Anyone can make a mistake or poor decision once. If he didn't have a prior arrest, I'd toss it up to a night of being an idiot and would hope the criminal system would teach him his lesson (ie being on probation).

But when you make a mistake again knowing that the consequences are very high -- and likely this is not the first time drunk drove since his arrest -- then you enter into the 'problem child that isn't worth it' area.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

The Nebraska incident was well known to them when they took him, you can't treat that as something that he did after he was drafted, however the probation violation is a good point and that could end up being his real problem here. A hard line judge could end up sending him to jail to do his sentence and that could spell the end in NE for him.

Exactly...that's the issue. If he gets extensive jail time I can't imagine they keep him. I know I wouldn't keep him.

 

[kennyb]

I think cutting him would be completely stupid, nonsensical and just dumb.

Lots of people get DUIs. You live in a rural area, have a few beers, then you're probably under the influence technically. Doesn't mean he was fall down drunk and it doesn't mean he was a bad person.

Unfortunate given his previous legal shenanigans, but no biggee.

He's good, why cut off your nose to spite your face?

 

[IllegalContact]

While I agree that he should be judged by the same standards as any other player and not by PR considerations due to the Hernandez situation the claim that DUI is a "minor mistake" is total crap, DUI is a serious mistake that puts other peoples lives in danger. I would not release Dennard over this but i would bring him in and let him know he is out of chances and the next mistake will be his last as a Patriot.

yes.....I would like to know 'how' drunk......was it noticeable when he got out of the car? besides crossing a line, was he staggering? slurring?

depending on state laws, refusal to take a breather results in an automatic suspension, but the term 'suspicion' provides the opportunity for a level of understanding.

you know kevin faulk had a similar run in with cops in college and had some issues while a pro.......while the league may have tightened up a bit, so much more of this is the media hammering away......they've already written up more on dennard on PFT than they did on heckert and Russell even though one guy registered a 0.246, and the other a 0.162 7 hours after getting arrested......

 

[IllegalContact]

How many chances do you give this guy?

You gave him a huge opportunity by drafting him onto a Super Bowl team four days after he assaulted police.

Then you kept him after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting police while a member of your team.

Now you'd give him a pass for violating the terms of his probation with a DUI charge two weeks before camp opens.

Where do you draw the line? Where would your employer draw the line?

ask kevin faulk

 

[Rob0729]

How many chances do you give this guy?

You gave him a huge opportunity by drafting him onto a Super Bowl team four days after he assaulted police.

Then you kept him after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting police while a member of your team.

Now you'd give him a pass for violating the terms of his probation with a DUI charge two weeks before camp opens.

Where do you draw the line? Where would your employer draw the line?

I think there is a point where you need to draw the line, but I don't think this is where you cross it. Dennard is the third NFL employee in the last week or so who was arrested for a DUI.

I think the Pats should punish him if they feel fit (within the guidelines of the CBA), but I don't think he crossed the threshold to be cut.

 

[chasa]

I think there is a point where you need to draw the line, but I don't think this is where you cross it. Dennard is the third NFL employee in the last week or so who was arrested for a DUI.

I think the Pats should punish him if they feel fit (within the guidelines of the CBA), but I don't think he crossed the threshold to be cut.

I may be wrong, but those other two were not just convicted of assaulting a police officer, and were set to do some minor jail time.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

There are a lot of differences.

1) Stallworth wasn't on the team at the time of his DUI.

2) Stallworth wasn't on probation having just been sentenced just three months earlier.

3) Stallworth didn't do this in the immediate wake of the franchise's biggest black eye.

As for the Gronk or Brady, they wouldn't have been on probation and this wouldn't be the second criminal activity they've been caught up in in the last year.

I can see where you are coming from, but I have to admit to disagreeing.

I completely agree with the differences you mention. I was commenting on how the media would gloss over any such differences and insist a precedent which absent intelligent distinct differences (q.v. comments on the Edelperson case) could result in a future disaster were a Patriot star be arrested for DUI or some such.

"While deliberately ignoring or dismissing Dennard's precursor behavior, the media would have a field day unless they too were cut."

 

[Jackson 2]

ask kevin faulk

Faulk played 13 years with the Pats on 3 SB winning teams, was a captain, leader and mentor. He was charged with a misdemeanor for possessing 4 blunts at a Lil Wayne concert. You want to compare that with Dennard's rap sheet over about the last 15 months? Get serious.

 

[crew1954]

Maybe he will be traded instead of cut? He has too much value to cut. It is not comparable to the Hernandez situation, no team was going to trade anything of value for a guy doing life in prison.

Paul Crewe might give you 2 cartons of Camels for Aaron:

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[IllegalContact]

Faulk played 13 years with the Pats on 3 SB winning teams, was a captain, leader and mentor. He was charged with a misdemeanor for possessing 4 blunts at a Lil Wayne concert. You want to compare that with Dennard's rap sheet over about the last 15 months? Get serious.

faulk was arrested for resisting arrest while at LSU.......

 

[Rob0729]

I may be wrong, but those other two were not just convicted of assaulting a police officer, and were set to do some minor jail time.

And Dennard wasn't a Patriot when he assaulted a police officer. Kevin Faulk had a similiar arrest record in college (resisting arrest), but the Pats didn't cut him when he was arrested for possession.