MrNathanDrake
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With the Patriots having pre-draft visits from Michael Brockers, and now Melvin Ingram, it looks more and more likely that they are considering trading up.
-Ingram is currently projected in the 7-16 range. We would have to give up an arm and a leg to move up that high, but we definitely have the ammo if BB feels Ingram's "the guy" that will take the defense to another level like Aldon Smith did with the 49ers last year.
-Brockers I have seen anywhere from 9-25 range, with some having him falling even more. Realistically I think he's gone by 22 at the latest. I doubt he lasts to 27, so we would have to trade up no matter what if we want to pick him.
To put things in perspective, the Falcons had the #27 pick last year, and traded up to #6 for Julio Jones. What did it cost them besides #27?? They also had to give up last years 2nd and 4th rd picks, as well as this years 1st and 4th rounders.
Jets traded up from #17 to #5 to get Mark Sanchez. They also had to give up their 2nd rounder that year, and 3 role players (Kenyon Coleman, back up QB Brett Ratliff and safety Abram Elam).
Jets traded up from #25 to #14 to get Darelle Revis. Jets gave up #25 overall, 2nd rd pick, and 5th rd pick to obtain the #14 overall and 6th rd pick from the Panthers. Basically they just had to give up a 2nd rounder to move up 11 spots, and then swap a 5th for a 6th rounder. Not bad considering it landed them the best CB in football right now.
The earliest we would probably move up is #11 where KC currently picks. Ingram might be gone by then already, and it's probably too early for Brockers. But if Ingram slips anywhere in the #11-#13 range, this is where BB will have to pull the trigger.
#12 Seahawks is another option to trade with.
#13 Cardinals are apparently looking to trade down
#15 The Eagles are known to move around the draft a lot, and would probably be the highest spot where Brockers gets drafted. So, if BB wants to be safe and get Brockers, this would be where we trade for him.
Dallas at 14, Jets at 16, Chargers at 18 are less likely to trade since they are all still playoff contenders every year and have less spots to fill than the teams mentioned above.
Browns and Bengals both have multiple 1st rounders at picks 17, 21, 22, and might be willing to trade back to accumulate even more picks.
Going on past trades, what would we have to give up for Ingram if he's still around at 11-13?
#27 + #31 might do it, plus swapping our 4th for their 5th.
#27 + Wes Welker + 3rd rounder might do it.
Brockers, if he's still around in the 17-25 range would cost a lot less, but theres a chance he will be gone by then. We might only have to give up a 3rd rounder, or our late 2nd depending on how many spots we jump up in the draft.
Wes Welker, believe it or not, could get dealt on draft day. I would never rule it out with BB at the helm (remember Seymour/Vrable surprises?). We have enough receivers with Gronkowski, Hernandez, Ocho Cinco, Deion Branch, Brandon Lloyd, Dante Stallworth, Julian Edelman, Anthony Gonzalez. I'm not saying Welker WILL be traded, but it's possible BB deals him while he's still worth something.
It should also be mentioned that Asante Samuel is on the trading block and the Eagles are looking for a 4th rounder for him. Perhaps we could trade #27, 2nd rd pick, and 4th rd pick for #15, Asante Samuel, and a 5th rd pick. But he would have to restructure his contract so that would probably get in the way of any sort of trade involving him.
Currently we have 5 picks in the top 100.
We could move up about 10-15 spots in the 1st round and still walk away with 4 picks in the top 100.
-Ingram is currently projected in the 7-16 range. We would have to give up an arm and a leg to move up that high, but we definitely have the ammo if BB feels Ingram's "the guy" that will take the defense to another level like Aldon Smith did with the 49ers last year.
-Brockers I have seen anywhere from 9-25 range, with some having him falling even more. Realistically I think he's gone by 22 at the latest. I doubt he lasts to 27, so we would have to trade up no matter what if we want to pick him.
To put things in perspective, the Falcons had the #27 pick last year, and traded up to #6 for Julio Jones. What did it cost them besides #27?? They also had to give up last years 2nd and 4th rd picks, as well as this years 1st and 4th rounders.
Jets traded up from #17 to #5 to get Mark Sanchez. They also had to give up their 2nd rounder that year, and 3 role players (Kenyon Coleman, back up QB Brett Ratliff and safety Abram Elam).
Jets traded up from #25 to #14 to get Darelle Revis. Jets gave up #25 overall, 2nd rd pick, and 5th rd pick to obtain the #14 overall and 6th rd pick from the Panthers. Basically they just had to give up a 2nd rounder to move up 11 spots, and then swap a 5th for a 6th rounder. Not bad considering it landed them the best CB in football right now.
The earliest we would probably move up is #11 where KC currently picks. Ingram might be gone by then already, and it's probably too early for Brockers. But if Ingram slips anywhere in the #11-#13 range, this is where BB will have to pull the trigger.
#12 Seahawks is another option to trade with.
#13 Cardinals are apparently looking to trade down
#15 The Eagles are known to move around the draft a lot, and would probably be the highest spot where Brockers gets drafted. So, if BB wants to be safe and get Brockers, this would be where we trade for him.
Dallas at 14, Jets at 16, Chargers at 18 are less likely to trade since they are all still playoff contenders every year and have less spots to fill than the teams mentioned above.
Browns and Bengals both have multiple 1st rounders at picks 17, 21, 22, and might be willing to trade back to accumulate even more picks.
Going on past trades, what would we have to give up for Ingram if he's still around at 11-13?
#27 + #31 might do it, plus swapping our 4th for their 5th.
#27 + Wes Welker + 3rd rounder might do it.
Brockers, if he's still around in the 17-25 range would cost a lot less, but theres a chance he will be gone by then. We might only have to give up a 3rd rounder, or our late 2nd depending on how many spots we jump up in the draft.
Wes Welker, believe it or not, could get dealt on draft day. I would never rule it out with BB at the helm (remember Seymour/Vrable surprises?). We have enough receivers with Gronkowski, Hernandez, Ocho Cinco, Deion Branch, Brandon Lloyd, Dante Stallworth, Julian Edelman, Anthony Gonzalez. I'm not saying Welker WILL be traded, but it's possible BB deals him while he's still worth something.
It should also be mentioned that Asante Samuel is on the trading block and the Eagles are looking for a 4th rounder for him. Perhaps we could trade #27, 2nd rd pick, and 4th rd pick for #15, Asante Samuel, and a 5th rd pick. But he would have to restructure his contract so that would probably get in the way of any sort of trade involving him.
Currently we have 5 picks in the top 100.
We could move up about 10-15 spots in the 1st round and still walk away with 4 picks in the top 100.
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