10 days in - Josh and the boys are ready

[mgteich]

10 days in and the offense is almost ready for the preseason. We do need a JAG veteran running back (not much cost here). We might draft a prospect or two (WR or OL perhaps), but the offense seems to be basically done. We might sign a deal Welker or not. We still might sign some camp bodies and insurance, but the cost should be very small.
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[TheComeback]

I think we need more OL before they're ready.

Gallery is a good insurance policy, but there's no guarantee Waters is coming back. Mankins is a question mark with the ACL injury. Light might retire, which could force Cannon to play tackle. Vollmer may have back problems, on top of it all.

I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted OL with a 1st or 2nd round pick

 

[cmasspatsfan]

I think we need more OL before they're ready.

Gallery is a good insurance policy, but there's no guarantee Waters is coming back. Mankins is a question mark with the ACL injury. Light might retire, which could force Cannon to play tackle. Vollmer may have back problems, on top of it all.

I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted OL with a 1st or 2nd round pick

Id feel better about the offense if Waters says hes coming back.

 

[mgteich]

You are correct. Belichick knows the answer to the key questions: the situation of Vollmer, Light and Waters. For me, Mankins is a non-issue. He is a key part of our future. Gallery can play in his place for awhile as needed.

TACKLE
We might very well draft yet another OT if Light is retiring. This somewhat depends on how Belichick views the future of Vollmer and Cannon. For me this is somewhat a non-issue. We have Solder at LT, Vollmer at RT and Cannon as the swing OT. Even if this is the case, we might still draft an OT in the 3rd or 4th.

BTW, if Cannon's future is not at OT, we might very well be drafting an OT very early. After all, with Light retiring, what are we to do when Vollmer is out?

CENTER/GUARD
starters: Mankins/Gallery, Connolly, Waters
backup Wendell/MacDonald/Thomas

If we KNEW that Waters were retiring, we might draft an interior lineman by the end of the second round. It is also possible to draft a top C even if Waters is staying. A guard seems out of the picture, unless he could be counted on as the backup center (unlikely). Besides, if Waters were going to retire, I would think that Belichick would simply re-sign Koppen and have Connolly start at OG.

STATING THE OBVIOUS
I don't even want to think of what will happen to posters here if we draft 2 OL's in the first 3 rounds.

I think we need more OL before they're ready.

Gallery is a good insurance policy, but there's no guarantee Waters is coming back. Mankins is a question mark with the ACL injury. Light might retire, which could force Cannon to play tackle. Vollmer may have back problems, on top of it all.

I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted OL with a high pick

 

[ATippett56]

STATING THE OBVIOUS
I don't even want to think of what will happen to posters here if we draft 2 OL's in the first 3 rounds.

I could stomach drafting offensive lineman at #63 (Ben Jones, center from Georgia for example), however the first three draft picks need to be on defense.

 

[mgteich]

I agree. I would be very satisfied indeed if we drafted a couple of DE's and a safety, and then drafted a couple of offensive linemen.

I could stomach drafting offensive lineman at #63 (Ben Jones, center from Georgia for example), however the first three draft picks need to be on defense.

 

[Gwedd]

I agree. I would be very satisfied indeed if we drafted a couple of DE's and a safety, and then drafted a couple of offensive linemen.

I agree with your agreement.

We are going to have to deal with a Miami team twice a year that seems to have regained some of it's confidence. They could be a problem.

Likewise, Buffalo may also pose more difficulties this year with Mario Williams. However, that, too, depends upon which of the Buffalo teams shows up. The one on their meds, or the one off of them.

Then there is the JESTS and the Tebow factor. Like it or not, the NYJ are gonna be running some form of the wildcat/option this year so it's something else to prepare for.

The AFC East has always been a dog fight between the teams, because they all know each other so well. I think that we really DO need to draft some DE's and a Safety (or two) early on in the draft.

But as you point out, Coach knows what he has, pretty much, so it's going to be interesting to see how the draft goes this time around.

 

[Joker]

well..if you think Bill is going to react to what Buffalo has done this offseason, then why would you be shocked if he took an OL or two high in this draft? I would guess that would most likely be his reaction, especially if Waters retires.As far as Gallery goes, I wouldn't get my hopes up beyond depth...he's a veritable MASH unit the past few seasons

 

[Gwedd]

well..if you think Bill is going to react to what Buffalo has done this offseason, then why would you be shocked if he took an OL or two high in this draft? I would guess that would most likely be his reaction, especially if Waters retires.As far as Gallery goes, I wouldn't get my hopes up beyond depth...he's a veritable MASH unit the past few seasons

What I'm saying is that we really need a couple DE's and a Safety who could come in right off and contribute, but there's also those pesky defensive upgrades that Buffalo has done, and I should have added Anderson to Mario Williams too.

BUT....... it's all just speculation on our part, though fun and interesting. What Coach will do is always a surprise on Draft Day.

 

[Joker]

agreed 100%..if it was me, EVERY pick would be an edge rushing monster...Bill just never fails to confound my football judgement, but , as I've posted about six years ago, I gave up questioning his personnel decisions,. saving what little sanity I have.

 

[ATippett56]

agreed 100%..if it was me, EVERY pick would be an edge rushing monster.

Tell me you were not excited about chicken legs Shawn Crable from Michigan?

 

[Joker]

Did you see his upper body??? krist, he was built ...but then...those freakin' chicken legs...yeah, I thought he was going to be a player...

 

[Batman]

The bills are stacking themselves to come after Brady I would line gronk up on andersons side and run at him all day josh will however pass the ball and deep I would guess so getting some OL help would be great for this team. Being diverse on O will be more valuable than being a great D. That's not to say we don't need to improve our D because the last 4 mins of the Super Bowl we knew what NYG wanted to do and they inflicted their will on our D

 

[DarrylS]

Whoever they sign does not matter, they will pick another offensive lineman in the first four picks... BB has been rebuilding this team on the fly, and he knows that you have to balance the line between young and old to protect the franchise..

 

[Sivy]

Dont expect a RB to sb signed, infact expect all of them to be cut except woodhead who will catch screens. BB and Josh realized that the nfl is going to eventually be an all Flag Football leauge and the 2012 Pats will have the first ever 7 wr spread formation.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Josh and the boys are ready for who?? The Giants?? The Ravens??
I think not.
Seems to me all the Pats have done is sign WR's and lose their only steady RB. OL is weaker and the QB is a year older.

 

[RIpats88]

Josh and the boys are ready for who?? The Giants?? The Ravens??
I think not.
Seems to me all the Pats have done is sign WR's and lose their only steady RB. OL is weaker and the QB is a year older.

i knew someone had to come and be mr. negativity.


the offense imo looks like its almost set to me....waters should be back, we've addressed our problems at outside receiver, added a 3rd tight end(who also can catch passes)

and i think the plan is to turn over the reigns to our 2 sophmore RB's ridley and vereen. Bill didnt draft them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for nothing.

this leaves the pats with the ability(if they want to) to draft all defense

 

[mgteich]

I would add that we should add a veteran backup running back. We will then not be tempted to draft another. After all, we only have Ridley, Vareen, Woodhead Polite and Ketani (if the Navy cooperates). We might have signed Larsen )not official yet, but he is not really a running back. We carry 4-5 running backs.

i knew someone had to come and be mr. negativity.


the offense imo looks like its almost set to me....waters should be back, we've addressed our problems at outside receiver, added a 3rd tight end(who also can catch passes)

and i think the plan is to turn over the reigns to our 2 sophmore RB's ridley and vereen. Bill didnt draft them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for nothing.

this leaves the pats with the ability(if they want to) to draft all defense

 

[RhodyPatriot]

i knew someone had to come and be mr. negativity.


the offense imo looks like its almost set to me....waters should be back, we've addressed our problems at outside receiver, added a 3rd tight end(who also can catch passes)

and i think the plan is to turn over the reigns to our 2 sophmore RB's ridley and vereen. Bill didnt draft them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for nothing.

this leaves the pats with the ability(if they want to) to draft all defense

The title to this thread is Josh and the boys are ready....

Vareen has shown nothing. Ridley has skills...and puts the ball on the ground. Sounds like Matt Light is going to retire...is Koppen coming back?? Added depth to TE and Lloyd is a very good pick-up.
The OL is weaker, the running game is weaker and Brady has more toys with the passing game.
Btw the QB is another year older and struggles with his game against good defenses.
Josh and this Colt offense is ready???
I think not.

 

[BlueThunder]

A glass half empty type guy?

No trust in BB and his staff after 10+ years ???