JoeSixPat
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I don't give a crap about the draft chart. You never know how the draft will go. Would Wilfork have made it to 24 for us as opposed to 21 ? If a QB is there a team wants to trade up for, what if the team at 21 makes the trade leaving us out in the cold at 24. In terms of pure value it's not huge - maybe a 4th round pick. But in terms of potential opportunity, every couple of slots can be huge.I'm thinking the pick winds up being 21... gut feeling more than anything else... but the draft value difference between 21 and 24 isn't all that huge on the value chart anyway so its not a huge deal.
Here was the pertinent order going into this week :
17. Atlanta Falcons(7-6) .458
18. New York Jets(7-6) .474
19. Philadelphia Eagles(7-6) .490
20. New York Giants(7-6) .490
21. Kansas City Chiefs(7-6) .500
22. Denver Broncos(7-6) .536
23. New England(f/ SEA) (8-5) .427
24. Dallas Cowboys(8-5) .448
25. Jacksonville Jaguars(8-5) .536
26. Cincinnatti Bengals(8-5) .542
All those 7-6 teams can bump Seattle up a spot if they win, Seattle loses the SoS tiebreaker to EVERYONE. The only tiebreaker they win is that they pick after all non playoff teams with the same record so every loss is important.
Oh, Seattle plays San Diego next week
Yeah, the bottom line is for all of those 7-6 teams, if they win on Sunday they're tied with Seattle but only those making the playoffs would pick lower - however with Seattle likely to lose next week vs. SD, any of those 7-6 teams that win this week and next (and there's some decent teams there, some should do that) will move below Seattle heading into the last week regardless of playoff status. So if some of those 7-6 teams can get to 10-6, or even 9-7 if Seattle loses @ TB, we really could end up looking at 18-19. The KILLER was SF losing last week to GB - if they hadn't they'd have had a real chance to win the division instead Seattle still has a magic number of 1 to win it.B-fan, thanks, now I know who to root for, at least wrt the pick, and root for Cinci doubly on Monday night 12/18!
It was a long term deal, so that that may change his value going forward, but for now that #1 looks like a steal.I think the best thing about the Seattle pick, regardless of where it falls, is that DB was not worth it. He is their 3rd receiver and only seems to get a couple of balls his way per game. He also suffered a wicked hit (on which the defender was flagged for a 15 yd. helmet to helmet hit) last night.
Yeah, the bottom line is for all of those 7-6 teams, if they win on Sunday they're tied with Seattle but only those making the playoffs would pick lower - however with Seattle likely to lose next week vs. SD, any of those 7-6 teams that win this week and next (and there's some decent teams there, some should do that) will move below Seattle heading into the last week regardless of playoff status. So if some of those 7-6 teams can get to 10-6, or even 9-7 if Seattle loses @ TB, we really could end up looking at 18-19. The KILLER was SF losing last week to GB - if they hadn't they'd have had a real chance to win the division instead Seattle still has a magic number of 1 to win it.
You mean 23rd?
1. Detroit Lions(2-11) .516
2. Oakland Raiders(2-11) .547
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(3-10) .557
4. Arizona Cardinals(4-9) .505
5. Washington Redskins(4-9) .516
6. Houston Texans(4-9) .521
7. Cleveland Browns(4-9) .531
8. St. Louis Rams(5-8).464
9. San Fransisco 49ers(5-8) .484
10. Green Bay Packers(5-8) .495
11. Minnestoa Vikings(6-7) .464
12. Carolina Panthers(6-7) .484
13. Miami Dolphins(6-7) .526
14. Pittsburgh Steelers( 6-7) .533
15. Buffalo Bills(6-7) .563
16. Tennessee Titans(6-7) .567
17. Atlanta Falcons(7-6) .458
18. New York Jets(7-6) .474
19. Philadelphia Eagles(7-6) .490
20. New York Giants(7-6) .490
21. Kansas City Chiefs(7-6) .500
22. Denver Broncos(7-6) .536
23. New England(f/ SEA) (8-5) .427
24. Dallas Cowboys(8-5) .448
25. Jacksonville Jaguars(8-5) .536
26. Cincinnatti Bengals(8-5) .542
I don't give a crap about the draft chart. You never know how the draft will go. Would Wilfork have made it to 24 for us as opposed to 21 ? If a QB is there a team wants to trade up for, what if the team at 21 makes the trade leaving us out in the cold at 24. In terms of pure value it's not huge - maybe a 4th round pick. But in terms of potential opportunity, every couple of slots can be huge.
Besides, this is the pick for The Twig, I want it as high as possible . . . just because :rocker:
Regardless of how badly or how well teams pick, you are better off picking five spots earlier than five spots later.Doesn't make a difference whether you're 5 picks higher or lower if you don't know what to do with it... plenty of GMs have wasted top 20 picks while lower picks have turned into gems....
plenty of GMs have wasted top 20 picks while lower picks have turned into gems...
Heck, even BB has missed out on a few good players here and there.