Rumor: Patriots in the mix for Vincent Jackson

[blackglass3]

Hmmm. Not buying it. I'd fall over in shock if Vincent Jackson ends up in a Patriots uniform at the end of the week.

 

[zoostation]

does he play cornerback???

 

[Patjew]

NZ is a quaint little country. Make sure you pack some warm clothing as the South Island is pretty darn cold!

Will do! We'll be there in December and it looks to get pretty chilly at night.

 

[The_Riddler]

Please let this be true..........

Brandon Tate is just too small on that other side, he's a nice 3rd or 4th WR but not someone you want as your starter on the outside.

 

[Rob0729]

If you believe that supposive Patriots insider on the ESPN board (not that I do, but it is relative to the conversation), the Pats love Vincent Jackson.

I think Jackson would be perfect in this offense. Since it looks like Mankins would never play for this team again, if the Pats can trade straight up for the two then I would consider doing it. It would make the offense unstoppable and hopefully make Brady forget throwing to Moss repeatedly.

That said. I doubt it will happen.

 

[The_Riddler]

We passed on Dez Bryant, Boldin and Brandon Marshall because BB put all of his eggs into Brandon Tate's basket. Again another head scratcher why we wouldn't have made a play for 2 of the 3 or drafted Dez, now we're stuck with the forces down field to Moss because again, we have an issue on the other side of the damn field, that wasn't addressed.

 

[Rob0729]

One question would be is how would Moss react to a Jackson trade (unless Randy went in the trade which would be stupid since the Pats would be without a primary WR for three games)? If he was smart, he would be a good soldier and play hard to get his next contract. But with any WR, there is always a chance this turns into a fight fir Brady's love. Jackson could be a problem too if the Pats don't give him a long term deal.

 

[Rob0729]

We passed on Dez Bryant, Boldin and Brandon Marshall because BB put all of his eggs into Brandon Tate's basket. Again another head scratcher why we wouldn't have made a play for 2 of the 3 or drafted Dez, now we're stuck with the forces down field to Moss because again, we have an issue on the other side of the damn field, that wasn't addressed.

Passing on Dez Bryant was a good thing. Imagine this defense with Butler and Whilhite as the starting CBs. I am estatic with the McCourty pick. He has made a few rookie mistakes, but he looks to have the potential to be a dominant CB. My only significant complaint about him so far is that we can't clone him and replace Butler with his clone.

BTW, has Dez Bryant performed significantly better than Tate? I have been underwhelmed with Bryant's performance so far especially based on his hype.

 

[stcjones]

I'm slowly coming around to seeing why you're generally disliked on this board. I don't want to agree with these people as it's obvious you're an intellectual with the ability to articulate relevant and thought provoking commentary, but I'm beginning to understand. You've been nothing but dismissive or combative to opinions that conflict with your own regarding the Mankins situation.

I thought you were perceptive enough to realize that "not having a deal" doesn't mean a deal wasn't tabled. Kraft intimated the offer to Mankins was of a similar nature to Mangold. Taken at his word, that reads that the Patriots were more than willing to pay their good little guard.

As for Jackson, perhaps you'd like to reference other "problem children" the Patriots have head business dealings with?

Stop pretending that you don't attack posters with your condescending and dismissive nature. It's unbecoming.

Generally?.....more than that..:....good points, and well said sir!

 

[upstater1]

If you're on page 5 of this thread and haven't read the rest, it boils down to:

Brady already sucks with multiple receiving threats, adding one more to the mix means you didn't need to sign Brady because anyone can throw to these guys.

 

[Christopher Patriot]

I think New England still has to throw something into the pot besides Mankins if they truly want to land V jax.
I'd go as high as third round pick with them giving us back a 5th.
Our offense could be dynamic but again how would Moss get along with V jax, i'm all about getting another stud receiver but not at the expense of a first or second round pick.
It be nice to pry away Anthony Spencer or Manny Lawson as well from their respective teams.
I say the over under this week is Mankins is either a Cowboy or a Charger by this time next week.
I'd say Cowboy because you know that Jones won't stay pat as they're 0 and 2.
So so long Hick.

 

[The_Riddler]

Passing on Dez Bryant was a good thing. Imagine this defense with Butler and Whilhite as the starting CBs. I am estatic with the McCourty pick. He has made a few rookie mistakes, but he looks to have the potential to be a dominant CB. My only significant complaint about him so far is that we can't clone him and replace Butler with his clone.

BTW, has Dez Bryant performed significantly better than Tate? I have been underwhelmed with Bryant's performance so far especially based on his hype.

He took a punt back 62 yards for a TD yesterday and had 2 catches for 52 yards and he is still trying to shake the high ankle spraign he got early in camp, Bryant is on the verge of lift-off. You'll see in due time....

What has Tate done in these last 2 games btw? He was literally invisible yesterday.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

If you believe that supposive Patriots insider on the ESPN board (not that I do, but it is relative to the conversation), the Pats love Vincent Jackson.

I think Jackson would be perfect in this offense. Since it looks like Mankins would never play for this team again, if the Pats can trade straight up for the two then I would consider doing it. It would make the offense unstoppable and hopefully make Brady forget throwing to Moss repeatedly.

That said. I doubt it will happen.

Are you saying that the reason Brady throws to Moss repeatedly is because he has no other viable options available to him?

I certainly don't see it that way. Brady has a wealth of options available to him. Too many even perhaps! The last thing that needs to be done is to add yet another.

 

[BelichickFan]

I'd love to get Jackson, perfect long term replacement for Moss. Whether it included Mankins or the Carolina #2 that's looking like a top ten pick in the round I would do it.

This thread reminded me of Item 1 from this thread :

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/308455-offseason-news-i-heard.html

 

[Rob0729]

He took a punt back 62 yards for a TD yesterday and had 2 catches for 52 yards and he is still trying to shake the high ankle spraign he got early in camp, Bryant is on the verge of lift-off. You'll see in due time....

What has Tate done in these last 2 games btw? He was literally invisible yesterday.

Ummm.... How quick you forget Tate's 97 yard TD return (if you are going to tout Bryant's special teams play, why not Tate). He had a good game vs. the Bengals. Last week he had about 20 yards less than Bryant had in week one (Tate had 4 catches for 36 yards and Bryant had 8 catches for 56 yards). He had one catch for 19 yesterday, but it wasn't like any Patriots receiver other than Hernandez had a particularly good game. But Bryant only had two catches yesterday although both were for over 20 yards. It isn't like Bryant is totally outclassing Tate. Neither has done anything special except on special teams.

Still would rather have McCourty at this point. The guy has generally been solid and clearly this team needs a CB more than a WR. If the Pats took Bryant, he would better have lift off and quick because the Pats would have to win games by scoring 40-50 points a game. Without McCourty, the starting CBs would be Butler and Whilhite.

Stop this Bryant ball washing. Right now, he is a decent #2 WR. When he lifts off, call me. Until then, he would do nothing to help this team right now. He hasn't been significantly better than Tate and Romo has less options to throw to. Tate is at best Brady's third option after Welker and Moss. Bryant is Romo's second.

And I am done hijacking this thread with you man-crush on Bryant who has done nothing to show the Pats made a mistake passing on him at this point. If and when he becomes a Pro Bowl WR, then start biatching. Right now, he would not help the team more than McCourty.

 

[juxtapoz15]

I didn't read the whole post, so sorry if this has already been brought up.... But wasn't there a rumor before that Vincent Jackson was the #1 ranked WR in the league when ranked by the Patriots?

 

[BelichickFan]

I didn't read the whole post, so sorry if this has already been brought up.... But wasn't there a rumpr before that Vincent Jackson was the #1 ranked WR in the league when ranked by the Patriots?

See my link two posts above

 

[The_Riddler]

And I am done hijacking this thread with you man-crush on Bryant who has done nothing to show the Pats made a mistake passing on him at this point. If and when he becomes a Pro Bowl WR, then start biatching. Right now, he would not help the team more than McCourty.

I'll check in with you at midseason Rob and we can compare Tate and Bryant at that point, how does that sound?

 

[ivanvamp]

I thought you were perceptive enough to realize that "not having a deal" doesn't mean a deal wasn't tabled. Kraft intimated the offer to Mankins was of a similar nature to Mangold. Taken at his word, that reads that the Patriots were more than willing to pay their good little guard.

As for Jackson, perhaps you'd like to reference other "problem children" the Patriots have head business dealings with?

I cut the stuff you wrote regarding Deus' approach to other posters because I don't care about that. I'm interested in these two pieces of your post.

The first (re: Mankins), I agree with you about. It seems to me that they did offer Mankins a lot of money. Who knows whether the stories are true that they demanded a public apology or what have you. Whatever the reason, a deal has not been consummated, but that doesn't mean that the Pats haven't offered a pretty good contract. I'm with you on this.

I know I'm wading into the conversation without having read the entire thread, but some "problem children" the Pats have gone after include Dillon and Moss, of course. I feel like there have been a few more, but I cannot remember them.

The image of the Pats (under Belichick, anyway) until they signed Dillon was that there was a certain type of person that was a "Patriot player". But when they signed Dillon it seemed to change to, "We'll sign anyone who can help us" regardless of their past history. It wouldn't shock me at all if they were interested in Vincent Jackson.

 

[Phokus]

Can someone explain to me the Belichick getting back at Brad Childress/Percy Harvin thing that was mentioned before?