Mangini wants to come home...

[cmasspatsfan]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

Theres more to the Ratginis betrayal than spygate, he tried to take some asst's with him, players too I think. If I remember correctly didnt they have to lock him out of the stadium after he accepted the Jets job?

 

[RayClay]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

C'mon, it would be nice to make up. BB could take him fishing...

YouTube - Fredo's Death

 

[blackglass3]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

Sounds like he is looking for a soft landing when his Jake Delhomme/Seneca Wallace led team has another double digit losing season. I am curious to read the rest of Breer's article though.

Only a select few people know how much Mangini had to do with Spygate...I'll follow Coach Belichick's lead on this one.

 

[Joker]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

why come back to the Patriots?

his legacy as a stool pigeon lower than child molester adored by Jet fans is firmly rooted in the Jersey swamp...let him go back to the green troglodytes as Wreck's personal crying towel boy.

 

[Reckedtrek]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

Well... if he wants to patch things up, one good way to start would be to give the Pats Cleveland's #1 draft pick for next year to replace the one he got yanked out of the Pats hands.

whattadoosh!!

 

[tuckeverlasting]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

There's an old saying, "You can never go home again", so there is no sense to
hoping and wishing, thinking and praying. IMHO he was never that good a
DC and would foster a less than smooth transition for all involved.
Again, JMO.

i have another old saying for that hypocrite, "fat chance".

and yes the pun was intended.

 

[patriotscpfc]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

I'm sure Bill will respond to this.

In Week 9 when we put up 100 on the Browns.

 

[Tunescribe]

Perhaps Tubby Ratfink can start out by sending BB a formal letter of apology with a $500k check enclosed. THEN he can go to the press and explain to all the idiots out there that spygate was a sham, that he and every other coach in the league has taped/stolen signals, and that the outrageously punitive actions by a rookie commissioner were naive and misguided.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

"You can never go home again..."

Look, I don't care if Belichick and Mangini have a nicey-nicey phone call or for that matter if Mangini has to go in a little booth in Foxboro and confess his sins, after which he has to say three "It is what it is"es and five "that's for you guys to write about"s as absolution. Or they can have a beer summit, that would be good. Like I say, I don't care about things hanging over both of them and forgiveness being good for the soul... if it's his soul that's troubling him.

If he thinks for one minute he's getting a job again with the Pats, that's just nuts. But I don't think that's what this is about. I think more than anything it's the guy yanking the hatchet out of your back because he decides he looks way better appearing to want to bury it.

Don't start nothin', won't be nothin', Mangini.

Romeo and Weis left with class and went their own ways. Same with McDaniels. I don't think they want to be assistants anymore, regardless of recent or future outcomes. Me, I'd celebrate the return of any of them (in practical terms, Weis/Crennel) but that ship has sailed. I think we'd have seen it by now.

Mangini is another story. He really wanted to live up to what they demanded of him in NY... by any means necessary.

It's that much more unlikely we'll see Mangini ever so much as carrying a Patriots coffee cup. He's proven himself unworthy to.

Not that I hold a grudge or anything

PFnV

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Maybe we can get Eric to hold his breath waiting for this to happen??
What a dink!

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I believe there is a genuine "disconnect" between the genius who raised him from a pup and the fraud formerly known as mangenius. While they might have eventually patched up the relationship following his ill advised defection to the swamp, because Bill was well aware of the underlying ego issues that led to it, they'd been butting heads for at least a couple of years as a result of it, and it did pan out for Eric in NY exactly as Bill predicted - they turned on him despite a winning record, what transpired in spygate is the kind of betrayal few ever forgive and forget. Tannenbaum may have ultimately been the little engine who drove that train, but Eric laid the track. Tannenbaum wouldn't have even gotten the GM nod in NY had he not landed Woody a Judas willing to spill the beans to land his first HCing job prematurely. I'm sure Eric would say with all sincerity in hindsight he never intended for what he did to prove so costly and damaging to his mentor, but the trouble is you can't take stuff like that back after the fact. You have to live with the consequences, just as the man who gave him his shot and this organization that launched his career did.

The example of the two Bill's isn't a remotely relative analogy. They eventually reconciled largely because the one who behaved badly throughout his career woke up one morning and realized he had no friends from among the myriad of careers he helped launch because despite the significant role they played in his success he chose in the course of each of their relationships to universally treat them like ****. Little Bill is not in remotely the same situation. Guys like Josh and Scott and Tom Dimetroff and Charlie and RAC and ... and a host of college coaches like Saban and Hill and Ferenz and Meyer can all attest to the fact that he treats his collegues and peers honestly and fairly in the process of often teaching them everything they come to know. That's exactly what he did for Eric, and in return he got an ego driven knife in the back that while he managed to survive scarred him for life.

Bill will generally forgive a player who in the heat of battle with his career on the line emotionally lashes out at him. What Eric did was on a whole other level. It was akin to Tom Jackson squared. That kind of unwarranted attack he never forgives or forgets let alone when it emanates from someone he treated like a son. Not to mention when the apology is launched via the media in a pretty transparent attempt to salvage his downward spiraling career. They obviously haven't spoken or had a functional, civil relationship in five years now. If I were Eric I wouldn't hold my breath for the day they do. Loyalty and trust are huge with Belichick, and Eric has proven incapable of either. Just ask his handpicked Cleveland GM George Kokinis, formerly and presently of the Ravens.

 

[Triumph]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

C'mon, it would be nice to make up. BB could take him fishing...

YouTube - Fredo's Death

HA HA

Mangini "You know how I catch the big ones? I say a Hail Mary and I always catch a fish"

 

[fair catch fryar]

On a personal level no one can speak for BB and shouldn't. If he is able to forgive Mangini than he's the better man and maybe that's all Mangini is looking for and wants to be back on Bill's Christmas card list, but on a professional level I don't think there is any way in hell that BB would even consider taking him back. If Mangini is as good a coach as once thought and has truly learned from past mistakes he'll make the best of the Cleveland job and try to psotion himself for success there or somewhere else.

 

[TrueBeliever]

Whatever. He knows that he will almost certainly be s***-canned after this season and is trying to kiss up to BB in hopes of landing some sort of job in the future. Screw him, let him go coach at Backwater Falls High School in Arkansas.

Also, don't try to draw comparisons between this situation and what happened between BB and Parcells. That's apples and oranges.

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

If it was just like one thing like leaving to go to the Jets against BB's wishes, I could see it. But he's shat on BB and the Pats so many times BB'd have to be a moron to accept his apology. If I were BB and Mangina came at me with that crap I'd give him the Tom Jackson special.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Ahhh been a while since I got to say this......

Mangini has boobz

 

[Calciumee]

Yeah... no!

 

[Nikolai]

Perhaps Tubby Ratfink can start out by sending BB a formal letter of apology with a $500k check enclosed. THEN he can go to the press and explain to all the idiots out there that spygate was a sham, that he and every other coach in the league has taped/stolen signals, and that the outrageously punitive actions by a rookie commissioner were naive and misguided.

Yep. That's step #1 in the process. Without this, I don't see how anything comes out of it.

Put me on the record for saying that this interview is probably the last we'll ever hear of this idea.

 

[WelshPat]

Re: Mangini wants to come home ..

I've never betrayed a friend and stood idly by while he was publicly crucified and had every accomplishment questioned because of it.

TBH mate, you've probably never been in that sort of position with the publicity. I don't mean that disrespectfully, but i'm guessing most here don't face the media a whole lot.

I get that most here will defend BB because he's their coach, but with these type of things we never know the whole story. I've heard Tannubaum is the guy most Pats people blame for all that.

But at the end of the day as a previous poster said, Mangini is near the end as a HC. His days are numbered, he's allready lost a lot of power in Cleavland.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Well, I guess the personal relationship between Belichick and Mangini is up to the two of them to work out. To someone who doesn't know either of them, it sure looks like a log of damage was done first when Mangini went to another team in the Division and then, of course, when he turned in the Pats for having cameras on the sidelines on that fateful day. But, there are only two people who can determine whether this relationship can be repaired...