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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Yes, I do say that Thomas' pass rush abililty is fine.
Ok. So BB who's job is to coach the players, watch all of their film, assess them, teach them how to do those jobs, etc, says the Thomas is not a good pass rusher.
You who watches the game on TV says BB is wrong.
So your evaluation skill is so superior to Bill Belichick that from your recliner, without ever meeting the player, without watching the film, speaking with him, seeing him in practice, giving him direction he can or cannot follow fou are a better judge of Thomas ability to rush the passer.
And you aren't arrogant?
You should retire from message boards.
Ok. So BB who's job is to coach the players, watch all of their film, assess them, teach them how to do those jobs, etc, says the Thomas is not a good pass rusher.
You who watches the game on TV says BB is wrong.
So your evaluation skill is so superior to Bill Belichick that from your recliner, without ever meeting the player, without watching the film, speaking with him, seeing him in practice, giving him direction he can or cannot follow fou are a better judge of Thomas ability to rush the passer.
And you aren't arrogant?
You should retire from message boards.
Thomas' pass rushing abililty is fine. His overall level of play was fine in years one and two in New England. What happened last year is something none of us know. It could be age, discontent, scheme, the fit of his right shoe, or goodness knows what.
Thomas, as I recall, was leading the team in sacks in 2008 before he broke his arm. In 2007, he had started fast and then gotten injured, struggling afterwards. You may recall, however, that he was able to get to the passer in the Super Bowl.
I suppose you think the opposing QBs just ran to him and told him to tag them down, though.
IMO Thomas WAS a good pass rusher and in fact one of the best, just like McGinest WAS a good pass rusher but both prior to 2005 that is - All downhill from there.
Father time catches up to you,some quicker than others
Guys like Jason Taylor are rare in this league taking thier talents all the way to the mid 30s although he is falling fast as well.
Let's try this again:
Now, when you figure out the import of those posts when read as part of a theme, and can respond like an adult and a moderator, get back to me. Until then, don't waste my time with more garbage like this nonsense you just posted.
I would agree with that. Except I wouldnt call him one of the best at any point. Good, but not more than that, although AT TIMES he had some of the best pass rush production (because of the players he played with)
Nice try. I dont care about the 'import' of other comments you want to use to deflect the topic.
The topic is:
You said Thomas pass rush skills are fine.
I pointed out BB disagrees and asked if knowing BB says you are wrong, do you accept BBs judgment or do you think yours is better.
You chose yours.
Thats all I need to know.
I can fill in the answer myself to whether this means you are so arrogant you think you can make that decision better than BB or whether you are simply to insecure to ever admit you are wrong.
The only "theme" I can find in those posts is one of using a player's past performance to evaluate his current talent. Yes, Thomas was a good pass-rusher in 2007 and 2008. But what you've been stating repeatedly is that he is a good pass-rusher. However, all available evidence seems to suggest that he can no longer fill that duty successfully.Let's try this again:
Now, when you figure out the import of those posts when read as part of a theme, and can respond like an adult and a moderator, get back to me. Until then, don't waste my time with more garbage like this nonsense you just posted.
I'm not arguing with you I'm actually agreeing with you. That's the point.Maybe it's just because I've been taking Adderall and studying for two exams all day (I'll grant the possibility that my brain may be fried), but the first one is your original post toward me. Here is the post I made which prompted that response...
To be honest with you, I don't know what you're arguing with me about. Nowhere in this post did I claim that sacks were the "know all, end all" of the Jets defense. Nowhere ANYWHERE on this forum did I say that sacks were the "know all, end all" of the Jets defense. My original claim was that, with more pass rushing attempts, I expect AD's sack totals to go up from 2009 to 2010. Now, perhaps that you are disagreeing that he won't see more sacks because he's not actually going to be rushing the passer more in the Jets defense? If that's the case, I would welcome you to explain why you believe Ryan's defense isn't centered around various blitz packages. There's no need to "let it go". Just be more clear about what you're actually arguing with me about because, again, I didn't make the assertion that you're claiming I have made anywhere.
The only "theme" I can find in those posts is one of using a player's past performance to evaluate his current talent. Yes, Thomas was a good pass-rusher in 2007 and 2008. But what you've been stating repeatedly is that he is a good pass-rusher. However, all available evidence seems to suggest that he can no longer fill that duty successfully.
So either you're too childish to admit that you meant to say Thomas "was" a good pass rusher, or you actually believe he can still win one-on-one matchups in this league, despite all available evidence to the contrary. If that's the case, what makes you believe this? In which 2009 games did Adalius Thomas show his ability to beat blocks and get to the passer?
i say ther are like 5 teams that may sign him in the next few days
#1 jets
#2 ravens
#3 bills
#4 the fish
#5 KC
Actually, I didn't use the word "good", I used "fine", and I disagree with your assertion that "all available evidence seems to suggest that he can no longer fill that duty successfully." Again, I believe he was leading the team in sacks in 2008 before he was lost to injury. Also, I noted the problem last year and pointed out that we didn't know why it happened, but pointed to age as one possible reason among many. I'm not sure what seems to be so difficult about this for people to understand. In 2007, Julius Peppers had just 2.5 sacks. Does that mean that he was no longer a good/great pass rusher and was done? He's gotten 14.5 and 10.5 in the two years since, for the record.
By the way, one can feel that someone else is generally both smarter and more informed than they are, be it in a specific field or in general, and still disagree with that person on particular points. I have no doubt that Belichick is far more competent at being a head coach than I ever will be, and the same is true of his work as a front office man. That didn't make him right (and me wrong) on the Burgess trade, though, did it?
I'm not arguing with you I'm actually agreeing with you. That's the point.