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Nice. I hope this kills the EEI morning show.
Felger's a disaster waiting to happen. If the new station wants to lose the Patriots right out of the bat, signing Felger for the afternoon drive is the perfect way to do it. As for Tanquay, well, just color me unimpressed. They'd be better off getting Boomer's show simulcast out of New York and moving Toucher and Rich to the late morning/early afternoon slot.
Of course, that's just my personal take on that group of 'talent'.
The real disappointment comes with Felger being hired. Mr Opportunist shoves his mouth into this one..and as far as I am concerned, BZ strikes out with this big time. Smug, arrogant Felger only wishes to stir up the poy..baiting people with his nonsense..and BS..this cheesehaed turd is just that. If BZ wants to win ratings get someone with substance NOT a**** Felger. I will take the Big SHow anyday over that fraud.
It would have been nice to have competition but Contining BS doesn't know any better..putting retreads into the fray instead of something REALLY good.
Toucher and Rich said this morning that there will be "20 hours of sports talk, 4 hours of guy radio," and said most of their show (besides the music) will stay the same. So not necessarily all sports in the morning...
Say what you will about Felger, but I am just happy that WBZ has added a guy who doesn't think good Patriots talk on Tuesday-Thursday in Septemeber is pondering the RED SOX's pitching rotation in the playoffs in October. I agree with BSMW that when Felger first started his 890 show, it was excellent. It was the best Patriots talk in town. It went down a bit when Felger adopted the Borges Jr. persona, but it was still better than most Patriots talk on WEEI.
Hopefully Felger won't feel the pressure to be controversial to get exposure for his show and sticks to discussing football where he is actually one of the most knowledgeable guys on the radio in that area. Prior to his Borges Jr. turn he was as popular in this town as Mike Reiss especially when he would spank Borges and Cafardo on their anti-Belichick and anti-Brady rants on Sports Final back in 2001 and 2002. Borges Jr. didn't rear his head until about 2006.
I think as long as Felger keeps his contrarian act in check a bit, I think his show will still have much better Patriots talk than WEEI. If you want Red Sox talk, you should stick with WEEI. But I have always thought that WEEI's Patriots talk is lacking other than some segments (talking with Belichick) and sporatic occassions. The Big Show is more interested in putting the "Sign Culpepper" callers on just to ridicule them rather than actually talk real football.
I admit I don't have much exposure to Tanguay other than WBCN pre and post game shows where he is the moderator of a panel of hosts, but he does ok in that format. I guess if he isn't going to have a panel ala the Big Show, I guess I can see a problem there.
As for Toucher and Rich, I would rather have a sports show mixed in with some Howard Stern type of low brow humor and scantily clad women than D&C's mix of sports and politics. If I want politics in the morning, I'd listen to WRKO or the dozen political channels I have on Sirius.
I guess I have been so turned off by WEEI in recent years that I will welcome any alternative. I think WEEI has always been a Red Sox radio station (more so than I think this is a Red Sox town) and even know resists talking about other sports even Patriots while the season is going. I would rather have Felger who can be annoying at time, but can talk football than a lot of other guys who kiss the Patriots' arses all the time but can't talk real football for the life of them. I personally think guys like Pete Sheppard and Fred Smerlas who defend the Pats to the point of ridiculousness more annoying than guys like Borges and Felger. But I guess that is just me.
I agree when Felger started out, his show was really good..BUT...it sunk deep when he showed what a contrarian he was amd when it was ALL about his viewpoint rather than talking football. And actually I'd take talk here there on football with DOssie and others on EEI than smug arrogant talk from Felger. To me it's a loss for teh new station having Felger.Say what you will about Felger, but I am just happy that WBZ has added a guy who doesn't think good Patriots talk on Tuesday-Thursday in Septemeber is pondering the RED SOX's pitching rotation in the playoffs in October. I agree with BSMW that when Felger first started his 890 show, it was excellent. It was the best Patriots talk in town. It went down a bit when Felger adopted the Borges Jr. persona, but it was still better than most Patriots talk on WEEI.
Knowledgeable?? No...I do not believe he has a lot of knowledge..if he has some it never shows..once in awhile he makes a good point and like a blind squirrel..once in awhile he finds nuts.. Maybe in those days long ago he was starting to be as popular as Reiss..BUT Reiss has him beat by light years now.Hopefully Felger won't feel the pressure to be controversial to get exposure for his show and sticks to discussing football where he is actually one of the most knowledgeable guys on the radio in that area. Prior to his Borges Jr. turn he was as popular in this town as Mike Reiss especially when he would spank Borges and Cafardo on their anti-Belichick and anti-Brady rants on Sports Final back in 2001 and 2002. Borges Jr. didn't rear his head until about 2006.
I think as long as Felger keeps his contrarian act in check a bit, I think his show will still have much better Patriots talk than WEEI. If you want Red Sox talk, you should stick with WEEI. But I have always thought that WEEI's Patriots talk is lacking other than some segments (talking with Belichick) and sporatic occassions. The Big Show is more interested in putting the "Sign Culpepper" callers on just to ridicule them rather than actually talk real football.
I admit I don't have much exposure to Tanguay other than WBCN pre and post game shows where he is the moderator of a panel of hosts, but he does ok in that format. I guess if he isn't going to have a panel ala the Big Show, I guess I can see a problem there.
As for Toucher and Rich, I would rather have a sports show mixed in with some Howard Stern type of low brow humor and scantily clad women than D&C's mix of sports and politics. If I want politics in the morning, I'd listen to WRKO or the dozen political channels I have on Sirius.
Take Felger and Borges any day..one can write while the other in my opinion is a waste..I guess I have been so turned off by WEEI in recent years that I will welcome any alternative. I think WEEI has always been a Red Sox radio station (more so than I think this is a Red Sox town) and even know resists talking about other sports even Patriots while the season is going. I would rather have Felger who can be annoying at time, but can talk football than a lot of other guys who kiss the Patriots' arses all the time but can't talk real football for the life of them. I personally think guys like Pete Sheppard and Fred Smerlas who defend the Pats to the point of ridiculousness more annoying than guys like Borges and Felger. But I guess that is just me.
It's an urban myth that Felger actually knows more about football. It only appears that way to the gullible when he is not paired with someone who does. Guys like DeOssie (or any articulate current or former player) or Holley routinely expose that fraud with ease. And it's wishful thinking that he can contain his contrarian alter ego. Because it doesn't just emerge for ratings, it's his defense mechanism against exposure. Appealing to a loyal demographic that desperately wants to believe that it knows more about the subject than the guys whose rumps all the non critical, unobjective homers want to swab. They think Felger's mere existence validates their beliefs.
And for the record, Borges, Jr. emerged the day Patriots Reign hit the bookstands. Having failed to get ahead via the civil approach, the new and edgy Felger debuted on...WEEI where he honed his new, broader sports radio craft by first tearing Pedro and the Red Sox a new one. So don't kid yourself he won't talk baseball, or basketball or hockey. Or that he won't largely remain contrarian. This isn't 2001 or 2003 anymore. Felger has evolved and there will be no looking back.
I hope Sara's got some job security at Fox. WEEI bailed Felger's ass when he bombed the last time. I doubt they'd bring him back again. It will also be interesting to see how much faith Felger has in himself and his latest employer. If he remains on Comcast nightly, as I'm sure Tanguay will, he will again be spread too thin to actually bring anything beyond rehashed insight to the fray. And this time around he won't have his buddy Tomase feeding him even that. And he's yet to re establish any kind of personal access in Foxboro beyond the PFW crew. Players know he's a baitor and can't be trusted, and that is the access kiss of death when covering a Belichick coached team.
First, to be more knowledgeable than most of guys on WEEI, you have to know the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3. Very few of the guys on WEEI know a lot about football. Holley knows the most with the regulars. Sometimes I wonder if D&C know anything at all. I'm unsure about Pete Sheppard because the next time he says something intelligent, it will be his first. Big O knows a decent amount and so does Dale. As for the guests hosts, all the non-football guys are painful to listen to about football.
I agree when Felger started out, his show was really good..BUT...it sunk deep when he showed what a contrarian he was amd when it was ALL about his viewpoint rather than talking football. And actually I'd take talk here there on football with DOssie and others on EEI than smug arrogant talk from Felger. To me it's a loss for teh new station having Felger.
Knowledgeable?? No...I do not believe he has a lot of knowledge..if he has some it never shows..once in awhile he makes a good point and like a blind squirrel..once in awhile he finds nuts.. Maybe in those days long ago he was starting to be as popular as Reiss..BUT Reiss has him beat by light years now.
With Felger you get smugness and arrogance and HIS contrarian viewpoint on everything. I find it rather stale and will never listen to him all that much. I remember before when he was up against teh Big SHow and listening just up until he said something dumb, untrue or totally outrageous,,and then turning the dial. Sometimes 20 minutes..sometimes 45..BUT I could not listen to him all teh time. Since then he has gotten worse..I'll take EEI over him...even though I wish there was a REAL alternative.
I admit I don't have much exposure to Tanguay other than WBCN pre and post game shows where he is the moderator of a panel of hosts, but he does ok in that format. I guess if he isn't going to have a panel ala the Big Show, I guess I can see a problem there.
As for Toucher and Rich, I would rather have a sports show mixed in with some Howard Stern type of low brow humor and scantily clad women than D&C's mix of sports and politics. If I want politics in the morning, I'd listen to WRKO or the dozen political channels I have on Sirius.
Tanguay and these other two seem like lightweights..I'll take Mike and Mike or another sports alternative to both of these...really if they think these retreads are what will make people listen...I really doubt that will happen..
Take Felger and Borges any day..one can write while the other in my opinion is a waste..
Well..you are correct about some of the EEI crew...D&C..are pitiful..I don't listen to them nor do I think they know much. Arnold/Big O know more, but Holley is quite smart and maybe the best local. But when they talk football on the Big Show..they also have DeOssie, Perillo, Curran and others and they are miles ahead of Mr Borges Jr..First, to be more knowledgeable than most of guys on WEEI, you have to know the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3. Very few of the guys on WEEI know a lot about football. Holley knows the most with the regulars. Sometimes I wonder if D&C know anything at all. I'm unsure about Pete Sheppard because the next time he says something intelligent, it will be his first. Big O knows a decent amount and so does Dale. As for the guests hosts, all the non-football guys are painful to listen to about football..
Maybe I am wrong about when he became what he is now, but THAT is all that people have seen out of him for the last years..what he has evolved to. And it seems that is what he will be projecting and one of the reasons I will not be listening to him. Sorry..I don't like his schtick at all.As for his contrarian alter ego, it can be contained since he was one of the biggest Patriots cheerleaders prior to 2006. You are wrong when he started to become a contrarian. It started when Borges started to come on his 890 show and the phone calls exploded every time he was one and then he disapeared from the show when he got in trouble for his plagiarism article. That is when Borges Jr. really came in. Felger realized that people loved to hate Borges and Borges was more successful because of it.
Maybe so....but time will tell about what happens with him and BZ-FM. I am greatly disappointed that they chose this path..retreads..and Felger in particular.Yuk!!!As for Felger bombing, it wasn't exactly all his fault. If you lived outside of Boston, you couldn't get his show after 4:30 in winter because the signal was so weak that it wouldn't go far after dark. Kinda hard to be successful when your audience can't get the radio station. I doubt he will have to worry for a while because even if he isn't successful, WBZ has the money to keep him around in the role he served at WEEI.
Well..you are correct about some of the EEI crew...D&C..are pitiful..I don't listen to them nor do I think they know much. Arnold/Big O know more, but Holley is quite smart and maybe the best local. But when they talk football on the Big Show..they also have DeOssie, Perillo, Curran and others and they are miles ahead of Mr Borges Jr..
Maybe I am wrong about when he became what he is now, but THAT is all that people have seen out of him for the last years..what he has evolved to. And it seems that is what he will be projecting and one of the reasons I will not be listening to him. Sorry..I don't like his schtick at all.
Maybe so....but time will tell about what happens with him and BZ-FM. I am greatly disappointed that they chose this path..retreads..and Felger in particular.Yuk!!!
First, to be more knowledgeable than most of guys on WEEI, you have to know the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3. Very few of the guys on WEEI know a lot about football. Holley knows the most with the regulars. Sometimes I wonder if D&C know anything at all. I'm unsure about Pete Sheppard because the next time he says something intelligent, it will be his first. Big O knows a decent amount and so does Dale. As for the guests hosts, all the non-football guys are painful to listen to about football.
As for his contrarian alter ego, it can be contained since he was one of the biggest Patriots cheerleaders prior to 2006. You are wrong when he started to become a contrarian. It started when Borges started to come on his 890 show and the phone calls exploded every time he was one and then he disapeared from the show when he got in trouble for his plagiarism article. That is when Borges Jr. really came in. Felger realized that people loved to hate Borges and Borges was more successful because of it.
As for Felger bombing, it wasn't exactly all his fault. If you lived outside of Boston, you couldn't get his show after 4:30 in winter because the signal was so weak that it wouldn't go far after dark. Kinda hard to be successful when your audience can't get the radio station. I doubt he will have to worry for a while because even if he isn't successful, WBZ has the money to keep him around in the role he served at WEEI.