Rex Ryan: Jets Not Intimidated by Patriots (merged)

[NJPatsfan26]

I found the quote I was looking for :

The Way We Hear It - NFL pro football rumors and insider news from Pro Football Weekly

"“(Ravens GM) Ozzie Newsome had a chance to elevate (Ravens defensive coordinator) Rex Ryan to head coach last year, and he didn’t do it. What does that tell you? Ozzie is one of the sharpest football guys I know. I don’t care what anyone in that organization says about Rex — I didn’t even have to ask the question. They answered it for me. (Like) Wade Phillips (and) Romeo Crennel, some guys are just meant to be lifelong coordinators.”"

He will coordinate the Jest into a deeper recession then then the rest of the US is in.

 

[Zeus]

The head coach sets the tone for the team. When the Patriots are at their best, they are disciplined, efficient and all business-just like BB.

Rex is a loose cannon. Will his team be disciplined enough to succeed?

Remember the end of the Pats-Ravens game in 2007? Bart Scott (who followed Ryan to NY) had a complete meltdown after the Gaffney TD. Scott was assessed TWO unsportsmanlike conduct penalties which culminated in the Patriots kicking off from the Baltimore 35 yeard line (There was also an offside penalty against Ed Reed on the PAT). Ravens were down 3 with 43 seconds left so the game was on the line. Scott's actions went far beyond unprofessional.

Bart Scott - that's the first guy Rex sought out to join his jets. Think he'd be welcome around here?

Talk is cheap. Clearly, the Patriots are already under Rex's skin. He'll be entering the season with a rookie QB, no receivers and a bunch of Ravens retreads on defense. Good luck.

Is Rex writing some checks his players won't be able to cash?

 

[Dino 6 Rings]

I'm telling you guys, you haven't heard anything yet. If he takes one tenth of the ridiculous self promoting smack talk, that his defense had in Baltimore, to the Jets you'll have 100 of these threads by week 6 this year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Keeping it simple, we do know why the Ravens passed on Ryan. Because they didn't think he'd be as good a choice as rookie, untested Harbaugh. Ryan and Belichick were very different. Ryan wasn't tied to his previous HC. He wasn't a year off of being fired and needing some distance. He was THE DC, fully responsible whereas Belichick was a helper in his one year with NE under Parcells.

I can't PROVE it; just like I can't prove to you the Patriots did well in the Cassel deal but you won't believe it. But it's clear to me that Ryan was set up to be the HC and was passed over whereas when Belichick was passed over there were a bunch of mitigating circumstances (one year with the team, one year from being fired, close to the previous HC who left on bad terms) whereas Ryan was the next in line.

It doesn't mean Ryan will be bad but in my mind there's NO DOUBT a top organization had Ryan sitting perfectly to take over and chose a different path.

This is a completely unfair way of dealing with this. If Patriots Reign hadn't come out, I could easily argue that

"Keeping it simple, we do know why the Patriots passed on Belichick. Because they didn't think he'd be as good a choice as failed, unsuccessful Pete Carroll."

Again, the argument simply cannot be fairly made without the inside knowledge.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Re: Sexy Rexy At It Again

Well, we'll see what will happen a few months from now.

 

[Brady-To-Branch]

I'm pretty exposed to this coach since I live in enemy territory .. I understand having confidence and all, but damm .. he takes the cake ..

talkn about sending messages to the Pats, and he's not here to kiss BB's rings .. haha I love it .. check it out..

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Ryan/Jets = FAIL

The Jets should have never forced Favre on Rat Boy. IMO, Rat Boy will do well in Cleveland.

Ryan will find out what a terrible situation he's gotten himself into.

 

[BelichickFan]

This is a completely unfair way of dealing with this. If Patriots Reign hadn't come out, I could easily argue that

"Keeping it simple, we do know why the Patriots passed on Belichick. Because they didn't think he'd be as good a choice as failed, unsuccessful Pete Carroll."

Again, the argument simply cannot be fairly made without the inside knowledge.

Yes you could argue that but the differences are obvious.

- Belichick had been fired as a HC a year ago, he needed some distance (Mangini's rushed hiring aside)

- Belichick had always been Parcells' guy, his lap dog. I could see the Krafts not "going there" after the ugly departure of Parcells.

- Ryan was a top level assistant at Baltimore. Belichick was fitted into a full staff to help out as needed to an already functional staff.

Again, I can't PROVE it and neither can anyone. But it's clear to me that Ryan was "the next in line" and was passed over whereas Belichick wasn't clearly the next in line, he was part of the "Parcells crowd".

 

[Nunchucks]

Right, noted above a few times but the situations were very different (i.e. Ryan wasn't seen as married to Billick the way Belichick was to Parcells).

I realize that, but it doesn't change the fact that they passed on him. They could have hired him if they really wanted. If they knew he would bring 3 SB to NE, I bet they would have hired him immediatly.


I read patriot reign.

 

[BelichickFan]

I realize that, but it doesn't change the fact that they passed on him. They could have hired him if they really wanted.

Yes they could but there are clear reasons why they didn't. With Ryan there is no clear reason other than they weren't thrilled with him as the choice.

If they knew he would bring 3 SB to NE, I bet they would have hired him immediatly.

Clearly.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Ho-Hum no surprise here - The apple does not fall far from the tree

For many of us here who were around to see Rex's daddy Buddy coach you know he always had some smack to say about his opponents and I think the Pats in 1985 were among them when he was Da Bears DC and I think he did the same on his crappy Eagles team a few years later when he was HC

 

[zoostation]

I’ll say one thing… The owner of the Jets (Johnson) knows who to get the fan base fired up.
- Man-genius
- Lord Farve
- And now this clown.

Unfortunately talk is cheap. And until proven otherwise (on the field) the Jets will always be the LA Clippers of the NFL.

 

[Deus Irae]

Yes you could argue that but the differences are obvious.

- Belichick had been fired as a HC a year ago, he needed some distance (Mangini's rushed hiring aside)

- Belichick had always been Parcells' guy, his lap dog. I could see the Krafts not "going there" after the ugly departure of Parcells.

- Ryan was a top level assistant at Baltimore. Belichick was fitted into a full staff to help out as needed to an already functional staff.

Again, I can't PROVE it and neither can anyone. But it's clear to me that Ryan was "the next in line" and was passed over whereas Belichick wasn't clearly the next in line, he was part of the "Parcells crowd".

The differences are superficial. The reality is that someone made the assertion/implication that Ryan being passed over by the Ravens was some sign that he's going to be a lousy coach. I pointed out the obvious. The best coach in the NFL was initially passed over by the very team he is now leading.

All the rest is just an attempt to separate one situation from the other when we don't know if that's a valid thing to do. After all, Ryan was clearly a member of the Billick staff, and that could have been why the Ravens went in another direction.

 

[BelichickFan]

The differences are superficial. The reality is that someone made the assertion/implication that Ryan being passed over by the Ravens was some sign that he's going to be a lousy coach. I pointed out the obvious. The best coach in the NFL was initially passed over by the very team he is now leading.

Well, whatever, I think the differences are clear and substantial.

 

[Garbanza]

I’ll say one thing… The owner of the Jets (Johnson) knows who to get the fan base fired up.
- Man-genius
- Lord Farve
- And now this clown.

Unfortunately talk is cheap. And until proven otherwise (on the field) the Jets will always be the LA Clippers of the NFL.

Please......it's because Jets fans are stupid. I'm painting with a very broad brush - but I feel confident in that statement. What other fanbase gets over-worked, brash, over-confident and "swaggerlicious" over a team that continues to kick 'em in the nuts? Serioulsy. Quiet confidence is one thing - but being ****y without merit is dumb. Ryan reminds me of Herman Edwards. He gives good speech.

 

[TruthSeeker]

But Buddy Ryan's personality was his downfall. Buddy Ryan was a good coach, a good football mind who was ruined as a HC by the personality and ignorance that his son seems to share. His son would have to be as brilliant as the father to have the level of medicority that the father enjoyed. (if in fact the personality flaws are the same)

Buddy Ryan was extremely limited as a coach of football players. He could only coach one type of player: someone who mirrored himself in attitude and diligence. He was the prototypical "my way or the highway" kind of guy. You knew that there was going to be huge turnover whenever he came into a new situation.

The anti-Ryan was a coach like Red Auerbach. Red would tailor his coaching to the types of players he had - screaming all the time at some and never yelling at others.

Both devised good schemes. And both had opportunities to work with some really talented players.

From what I remember reading years ago, Buddy's sons were like their dad. So far I'm not impressed.

 

[ausbacker]

The trend I am noticing, is that BB and the Patriots rarely give the opposition ammunition leading into a season or a game, instead actually praising teams focusing on their strengths and what we'll have to do to beat them.

That's the glaring difference between the Ryan Jets and our lot this early in the "season".

 

[patsfan-1982]

His old man was the same way. He lasted for a while, as I recall, and put some pretty good teams together while he was at it.

he's dad buddy ryan was the DC for the 70s Purple People Eaters of minnesota and the DC for the bears from 78 to 86 and we all know about the 85 team and he was the HC of the Eagles from 86 to 90

dose where some of the gretest defense's ever

he was one of the best defensive minds to ever coach

but he did have about 20 HOF player's on defense between dose 3 team's


and as a HC only had 3 winning season's

he's son hes not done noting in the NFL to be mouthing off he is just riding on all the great player that the ravens have on D like rey lewis who is the real DC there

look at Marvin Lewis he was the DC for the 2000 ravens maybe the best defense ever he has been the HC of the Bengals for 6 year's and he still dose not have a good D there

Marvin Lewis first year as a HC with the Bengals 2003 he's defense was ranked 28th

2004 19th

2005 28th

2006 30th

2007 27th

2008 12th

great player's make average coach"s look good

 

[TrueBeliever]

Here's the thing you need to remember about Buddy - very good as a coordinator, mediocre as a head coach. He expected to get the Bears HC job that Ditka got, and mark my words the '85 Bears would not have been near as good if Buddy had gotten it. Some guys are like that, they're great coordinators but not good head coaches.

If Rexy's so interested in carrying on his old man's legacy, maybe he could hire Kevin Gilbride and then sucker-punch him on the sidelines.

 

[BradyFTW!]

This is a completely unfair way of dealing with this. If Patriots Reign hadn't come out, I could easily argue that

"Keeping it simple, we do know why the Patriots passed on Belichick. Because they didn't think he'd be as good a choice as failed, unsuccessful Pete Carroll."

Again, the argument simply cannot be fairly made without the inside knowledge.

Valid point, definitely. It does suggest that Newsome may not think much of Ryan as head coach material, but there's no way to authoritatively assert that with what little we know.

 

[aurakilla]

idk, i just think itd be really funny if their D played amazing week 1, then the pats drop 40 on them.........i think that would be really funny, shut them up 2