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Nothing personal,but IMO this type of conversation would be more apt when the season is over and its offseason and time to spend the money time eh?
I have no idea,havent seen enough of him ,any posters who have seen a lot of Raiders games can you enlighten us as to this players ability?
Id be ok with the Pats sending over there 1st and 3rd over to the Raiders for Nhamdi along with 8mil a year to him.
Wish I had whatever your on to keep me and mr. daniels company...seriously, if Randy Moss, arguably the BEST WR TO EVER PLAY THE GAME is worth 6 mil against the cap to the team, do you really think they are going to toss a 1st (especially the way we regard picks...) and hand this guy 8 mil a yr against the cap? Most I see us coughing up is a 2nd plus a high day 2 and maybe offer 6 mil with a decent signing bonus. No way in hell we pay him 8+ against the cap. You guys are smoking something funny, and it isn't the recently voted decriminalized variety (wouldnt be surprised if the POS MA gov't ignored that for a few more months...!@#$%^'s!).
Moss isnt making 6 mil per year, as Miguel stated earlier his salary is coming out to 9 million a year. So yes I would pay 8 million a year to a true shutdown corner.
Do signing bonuses count against the cap? If not, randy is a 6 mil cap hit, with 3 mil of that nine mil being his signing bonus. If it does count against the cap, I stand corrected.
Do signing bonuses count against the cap? If not, randy is a 6 mil cap hit, with 3 mil of that nine mil being his signing bonus. If it does count against the cap, I stand corrected.
Randy Moss
* Base salaries:
* 2008: $1.9 million
* 2009: $6.4 million
* 2010: $6.4 million
* Salary cap charges:
* 2008: $6 million
* 2009: $10.5 million
* 2010: $10.5 million
Asante Samuel is getting around $6 million a year in Philadelphia I believe. I'm not saying that Asomugha isn't a better overall CB, he likely is, but I don't think the Pats can sign him to more than that. If they do they are basically admitting a mistake and abandoning the philosophy that they attach a price tag to a given position and don't stray too far from it. I'm not one to get hung up one "messages" but IMO this would send a pretty poor message. He maybe unhappy in Oakland, but that's the worst situation in the NFL so it's not like he's a veteran that just wants one last shot at a ring, he probably just wants to play for a decent team. I have no idea if he's that "dedicated" to winning, but it seems unlikely to me that he'd really stray too far from better offers.
Asante is a different cb, and more of a gambler. Remember close to as many gambled pick attempts turn into tds as picks when he was around here...NA is a true shutdown corner, whereas asante is a cover gamble type. BTW...the pick6 the other night was on a real short in that he must have seen stallworth run millions of times last year in practice...with a back up throwing the pass, not TfB.
Asante Samuel is getting around $6 million a year in Philadelphia I believe. I'm not saying that Asomugha isn't a better overall CB, he likely is, but I don't think the Pats can sign him to more than that. If they do they are basically admitting a mistake and abandoning the philosophy that they attach a price tag to a given position and don't stray too far from it. I'm not one to get hung up one "messages" but IMO this would send a pretty poor message. He maybe unhappy in Oakland, but that's the worst situation in the NFL so it's not like he's a veteran that just wants one last shot at a ring, he probably just wants to play for a decent team. I have no idea if he's that "dedicated" to winning, but it seems unlikely to me that he'd really stray too far from better offers.