Tony2046
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Did you ever consider that maybe BB was not a great coach when he first started? Does not matter to me that it may have taken him a few years to figure things out while with the Browns but for some of you that is the smoking gun. Has nothing to do with what he ultimately became and accomplished. Similar to how Brady was not a finished product when he joined the Pats and had to work his way up the depth chart.
The efforts you go to disparage the greatest coach in the history of the NFL is stunning. The team he coached went to 8 straight conference championship games. 13 total and 9 Super Bowls. He won 6. Bill Walsh went to 3 and he had at the time what was considered the GOAT at QB. He also did not have a salary cap. The fact BB dominated Walsh's career w/o all that HOF talent is actually a testament to BB as he could never have afforded to keep them. BB absolutely benefitted greatly from Brady. In the modern NFL no coach is capable of sustained success without a top QB. The difference between him and his contemporaries is the extent of their success. QBs like Rogers, Manning, Favre were all considered some of the greatest ever yet none of them sniffed the level of success BB and Brady did. You want to discount BB's contributions to those results - I won't.
You do a great job with your "not making the playoffs" bit so you can discount the 11-5 season he had with Cassell - well played. Walsh's 2 year rebuilding the 49ers don't count but all BB years with Browns do as does his first year with the Pats. Makes sense. No coach is good enough to overcome a bad QB and that is what the Pats have right now. If that issue is resolved I have little doubt the Pats will be successful again. Will they be Super Bowl contenders - probably not.
When Jackson coached his one year without a top 15 player all time he failed to make the finals. And then of course he took his brilliance and package of Zen to turn around the Knicks and left in disgrace. Luckily for him he was not the coach as it would have proven he could not do it all on his own. (almost as if great players matter) - He took over the Lakers as Kobe was entering his prime and their success was predicted by all. Do you think if BB took over the Chiefs this year that he would do OK?
Excellent post. Neither BB or TB get six without each other. By far the most successful HC/QB combo in the history of the NFL.
All of this hoopering and hollering while BB is getting things reoriented during a Covid induced season is just nonsense.