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This is where we gather to follow things on Game Day. Obviously, emotions tend to be high so if anyone gets a little crazy, the use of the “Mute” button is encouraged on anyone who may be annoying to you to control your experience and to allow the moderators to also enjoy the game.

At the same time, please take a deep breath before over-reacting for the sake of making this a pleasant experience for everyone.

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Wax Frog

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After the game I would be interested in any follow-up you have on this, that isn't quite so evident to me, but IMHO you are one of the two or three most knowledgable posters on this Forum, I would be interested in your reasons and observations.

The way that they seem similar is: both appear to be very cerebral QBs that understood their college offense to a "t", and Mac appeared to be a quick learner (for a rookie) of the Patriots offense last year. And Zappe would appear to be a quick learner also (he did pretty well last week when he was suddenly thrown in the game), although of course the Patriots are treating him in a way similar to how they treated Mac early in his rookie year, not asking too much.

But to me they seem quite a bit different, let me make my arguments (unburdened by any actual knowledge on the subject):

* Mac 6'2 1/2", Zappe 6'0 1/2", Zappe is a bit small for a non-athletic QB
* Mac trained in a near-pro environment under Saban and Sarkisian; Zappe at a super small school (Western Kentucky)
* Mac has won National Championship, Zappe played for a decent 9-5 Conference USA team
* IMHO Mac is the ultimate "do exactly what the coach says" guy who obsessively watches film and prepares and in the past tried to minimize mistakes almost to a fault (I can only assume Patricia is telling him to open things up this year and take more risks); I got the impression that Zappe was more of a create-out-of-nothing type in college
* EDIT: Also: Mac games started in college - 17, Zappe games started in college - 51, so that is one way that Zappe as a rookie has an experience edge over Mac as a rookie, albeit, against far inferior competition.

Anyway, after the game I would like to hear more about your comparison of Mac to Zappe.
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He's thrown the ball like 8 times all game against the worst defense of all time.

Just sit back and appreciate the genius of Belichick as he squeezes out a 1st rd pick for this country bumpkin, and in the process, extends our dynasty by a decade.
You're EMBARRASSING YOURSELF, as usual, 17/21.
Move along clown face.

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Love this kid Zappe. Don't care that it's just the Lions. It's still an NFL team. Love his ability to escape that sure sack and make a play. Haven't seen that from a Patriots QB in a long time.
He went toe to toe with Rodgers at Lambeau last week, with no practise snaps.

All I know is I don't get anxious when he drops back to pass like I do with Mac... just saying

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Absolutely, hopefully they can ride that high going into the next several winnable games. Curious how they'll handle Mac's injury status since Zappe looks more than capable of managing games.
Mac shouldn’t play until he is 100%
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