arrellbee
Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
- Joined
- May 11, 2005
- Messages
- 1,084
- Reaction score
- 0
You have to be really really careful making quick judgments or generalizations. Watching a game in real time and getying impressions will probably not give you a very perceptive evaluation of a receiver. This is why slo-mo review is the only way to really begin to judge - and then it's many times difficult because of the TV views that you have to work from. Add to that the fact that many times we have no clue how the play was designed, or, in the case of a receiver, if he ran a bad route, the QB made a poor throw, or it was a case of the receiver and the QB not being on the same page as to what route option or alteration was needed.
This is why, if you are really interested in a real evaluation, the great work that Pats1 and Box do in doing the play by play analysis is priceless compared to even the best of the pundit's observations.
In particular, there are a lot of poor impressions in this thread.
Caldwell was the target for 8 plays (not always mentioned correctly).
1st - 11:18 - looked like Caldwell and Brady were exactly on the same page as far as route or pattern. The ball hit Caldwell in the numbers, but unfortunately for us getting an evaluation, the DB hit him sooner. You have to count this as a succes because they called PI and I think it was a 17 yard gain.
2nd - 10:23 - Brady threw an out pattern and Caldwell was 3 to 5 yards from the ball. Maybe he ran the wrong pattern, maybe Brady threw a poor ball (very doubtful), or maybe they weren't on the same page. If I had to guess, it would be that Caldwell didn't run exactly the right pattern. But no way can that be said with any certainty - it may as likely be Caldwell and Brady not picking the same option route.
2nd - 1:11 - long fly pattern with Caldwell slanting into the middle of the field. He was tightly double covered and the ball went considerably over his head. Without a TV view of his whole route running, you can't tell if he was going flat out the whole route. With the considerable overthrow, it might be Brady seeing the tight double coverage and putting the ball out where there was almost no chance of it being caught but also no chance of an interception. Or Brady may not yet have a feel for how fast Caldwell is or isn't in game situations.
2nd - 0:41 - Brady and Caldwell were apparently perfectly together on route and timing. Ball a little high but not in the slightest something you don't expect a receiver to be able to handle. It hit Caldwell right in his hands and he stiffed the ball directly to the ground. If you are trying to label Caldwell as dropping balls, this is the only one that you can point to. And it was a very bad drop.
3rd - 12:11 - Another fly pattern down the middle of the field it looked like, unless is was a deliberate fly, stop, and comeback (I kind of doubt it). It was tight double coverage. The ball was thrown short and off to the right of Caldwell. Again, without any TV view of the whole route, it is frustrating to try to piece it together. If Brady was seeing the double coverage and deliberately throwing the ball short, he didn't put it right to where Caldwell was. Caldwell did stop and try for the ball but he had to dive sideways and the ball was out and down. It would have been a great catch if he had made it - but he didn't make it. Not something that you can fault him very much for I wouldn't think. He apparently pulled up as he was on the left hash marks. Brady's throw was a couple yards inside the hash mark. You would love to know if Caldwell's route was supposed to be down a specific line or if he was to split double team defenders, or whatever - there are any number of different possibilities. If Brady's throw had been at Caldwell, the DBs could not have defended it and we would have had a good chance to see how Caldwell handled a catchable ball. Too bad we didn't get the chance. If Caldwell coming back for the ball was an adjustment by him, he did a good job of that. The defenders were pulling up but not as quickly as Caldwell.
3rd - 12:05 - Brady to Caldwell for 3 yards
3rd - 0:33 - Cassel to Caldwell for 10 yards
4th - 10:00 - Cassel to Caldwell for 15 yards.
So, despite what some folks perceptions may have been, there was only one dropped ball. There was also one really tough chance that he didn't make a great catch on.
Counting the PI call, he had 4 gains with an average of 11 yards per. 3 of those were 1st down conversions on 3rd down..
The first PI was on a 3rd and 10 - first down.
The second was on a 2nd and 10 (picked up 3 yards on short out)
The third was on a 3rd and 8 - 10 yards and a 1st down.
The fourth was on a 3rd and 5 - 15 yards and a 1st down.
What do you think ?
This is why, if you are really interested in a real evaluation, the great work that Pats1 and Box do in doing the play by play analysis is priceless compared to even the best of the pundit's observations.
In particular, there are a lot of poor impressions in this thread.
Caldwell was the target for 8 plays (not always mentioned correctly).
1st - 11:18 - looked like Caldwell and Brady were exactly on the same page as far as route or pattern. The ball hit Caldwell in the numbers, but unfortunately for us getting an evaluation, the DB hit him sooner. You have to count this as a succes because they called PI and I think it was a 17 yard gain.
2nd - 10:23 - Brady threw an out pattern and Caldwell was 3 to 5 yards from the ball. Maybe he ran the wrong pattern, maybe Brady threw a poor ball (very doubtful), or maybe they weren't on the same page. If I had to guess, it would be that Caldwell didn't run exactly the right pattern. But no way can that be said with any certainty - it may as likely be Caldwell and Brady not picking the same option route.
2nd - 1:11 - long fly pattern with Caldwell slanting into the middle of the field. He was tightly double covered and the ball went considerably over his head. Without a TV view of his whole route running, you can't tell if he was going flat out the whole route. With the considerable overthrow, it might be Brady seeing the tight double coverage and putting the ball out where there was almost no chance of it being caught but also no chance of an interception. Or Brady may not yet have a feel for how fast Caldwell is or isn't in game situations.
2nd - 0:41 - Brady and Caldwell were apparently perfectly together on route and timing. Ball a little high but not in the slightest something you don't expect a receiver to be able to handle. It hit Caldwell right in his hands and he stiffed the ball directly to the ground. If you are trying to label Caldwell as dropping balls, this is the only one that you can point to. And it was a very bad drop.
3rd - 12:11 - Another fly pattern down the middle of the field it looked like, unless is was a deliberate fly, stop, and comeback (I kind of doubt it). It was tight double coverage. The ball was thrown short and off to the right of Caldwell. Again, without any TV view of the whole route, it is frustrating to try to piece it together. If Brady was seeing the double coverage and deliberately throwing the ball short, he didn't put it right to where Caldwell was. Caldwell did stop and try for the ball but he had to dive sideways and the ball was out and down. It would have been a great catch if he had made it - but he didn't make it. Not something that you can fault him very much for I wouldn't think. He apparently pulled up as he was on the left hash marks. Brady's throw was a couple yards inside the hash mark. You would love to know if Caldwell's route was supposed to be down a specific line or if he was to split double team defenders, or whatever - there are any number of different possibilities. If Brady's throw had been at Caldwell, the DBs could not have defended it and we would have had a good chance to see how Caldwell handled a catchable ball. Too bad we didn't get the chance. If Caldwell coming back for the ball was an adjustment by him, he did a good job of that. The defenders were pulling up but not as quickly as Caldwell.
3rd - 12:05 - Brady to Caldwell for 3 yards
3rd - 0:33 - Cassel to Caldwell for 10 yards
4th - 10:00 - Cassel to Caldwell for 15 yards.
So, despite what some folks perceptions may have been, there was only one dropped ball. There was also one really tough chance that he didn't make a great catch on.
Counting the PI call, he had 4 gains with an average of 11 yards per. 3 of those were 1st down conversions on 3rd down..
The first PI was on a 3rd and 10 - first down.
The second was on a 2nd and 10 (picked up 3 yards on short out)
The third was on a 3rd and 8 - 10 yards and a 1st down.
The fourth was on a 3rd and 5 - 15 yards and a 1st down.
What do you think ?
Last edited by a moderator: