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Andy, I agree with you that Lewis is gathering a loose ball. But this also means that a loss of possession has occurred. Lewis then traps the ball against his thigh and he is heading the ground. I don't think there is any debating this. But possession in this instance isn't verified by Lewis...

It really is confusing and we have a lot of knowledgeable fans on this board and we have different interpretations or understandings of it.

I disagree. Surviving the ground is applicable and doesn't just apply to a catch but to a runner after he loses possession. Here is the quote from Tony Corrente on the ASJ ruling and he specifically uses the phrase "surviving the ground". Referee explains decision on controversial non-TD by...

A good friend of mine, Josh Parry, was the starting FB for the Eagles in this one. A few tidbits he shared: - they were completely confused when the Patriots early on had 2 down linemen - they couldn't stand Rodney and wanted a shot at him - when the Eagles were down by 10 in the 4th, there...

Jack's initial swipe, causes a loss of possession. The ball clearly moves. As Lewis is going down, he does as you point out, appear to pin the ball against his thigh but this is watching it in slow motion and the key here is he is going to the ground as he attempts to regain possession which...

Great post Ken. I thought the Lewis fumble was called correctly. He lost control and although he appeared to have re-secured it, it was momentary and he didn't survive the ground and as we have seen, if you lose control as you are going to the ground, you have to regain control and maintain it...

He doesn't but your line reminds me of one my favorite lines I've ever heard: "Well, I'm no gynecologist...but I'll take a look at it.

Haley and Ben aren't legends and the greatest of all time like Belichick and Brady. A story on their discontent would never have gotten the national spotlight like B&B&K. Also, negative stories on the Patriots is the ultimate fuel for the haters and lovers. However, in line with your post, why...

Maybe his hand was hurt previously (last game) and it was aggravated today or he hurt it today (follow through hit a defender's helmet - total speculation). If he's at practice tomorrow, I won't worry. If he isn't..... Several years ago if memory serves, he hurt a finger late in the week during...

OMG, that's hilarious! Alot of 12 year-olds post there. Well they might be adults biologically but children emotionally.

Good post and a great example of the eye test and the actual stats not always aligning. I hope these telling stats remain on our board only while the talk shows talk about the Jags defense like its the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens which it isn't. They do have a more attacking style from what I've...

I totally agree that he is the X-factor and there isn't much talk of him leading up to the first playoff game but if he can touch the ball 20 times, Pats will be very tough to beat.

I'm curious how AG came to be on the sideline, plane, office on premises (not TB12 place) to begin with if his association was primarily with Brady. Who authorized this and if he was not part of the training/medical team, couldn't one see the potential for conflict down the road given his close...

The rule is easy to understand; just ask Eli. Plus there was a reason they changed this several years ago; the play happens so quick that the line of judgement between a catch and possession to a catch, possession and fumble was so thin that it required far too much judgement which inherently...

Its the deepest area of the team and a good problem to have. I really like J Jones too and would have liked to have seen him out there more than Richards. On the other hand, the LB's are their weakest area of depth. Harris can't run, Roberts is streaky. Really need Van Noy back and healthy...

the only ambiguous part of the rule is the "football move" which requires some subjectivity but not a great deal. Otherwise a catch is clear and much easier to call than it was pre Calvin Johnson. Speaking of which, this rule has been around for 7 years! There is no excuse for not knowing the...

If Waddle and Cannon are out, does anyone who the 3rd tackle would be?

Does anyone know if it's his right or left achilles? The right will take much more pressure given it's his plant foot on dropbacks. On another note, does anyone know or heard about Andrews illness? He was out last Thursday and a week later still not practicing. Hopefully a bad cold or flu in...

I think it was!

Came across this highlight video and brought back memories. Grogan in relief and a win or go home scenario. This was the last game at the Orange Bowl and my buddies and I were out watching this game and getting absolutely hammered.