Under $30M Cap Space After A Week

n1997y · Mar 31, 2026

borisman said:
TreVeyon Henderson will NOT get released. His deal is fully guaranteed.

His support of Ivey was that serious?

borisman · Mar 31, 2026

n1997y said:
His support of Ivey was that serious?

I doubt it but we shall see. I've seen stranger things.

Pape · Mar 31, 2026

patfanken said:
I want to make sure I understand this correctly. Regardless of any extension they agree to, Gonzo is going to play for whatever his 4th and 5th years contract dictates PLUS whatever signing bonus gives him amortized over that 2 year period. BTW according to UNtrustworthy AI, Gonze is due to be paid about $2.5MM this year, and between 4-6MM next year, which is REALLY cheap. So, CLEARLY the signing bonus is what is going to drive this negotiation. I don't think that when he rookie deal is over the current market for elite CB's is in the 30-35MM dollar range.

I think that the Pats will have be in that range, but I would ne surprise to find that when the dust settles, we will find that a significant part of that compensation will be based on him being available to be available, like that AVT contract

his fourth year base salary is $2.259m... 550k roster bonus, 4.8m cap hit...

we have to exercise his fifth year option in about a month (5/1) ... when they do that, his 2027 salary jumps to $18.1m, and it is fully guaranteed...

and yes the signing bonus will matter to a degree because its guaranteed dollars, but overall its about the full amount of guaranteed money in the deal...

realistically, he's looking at 100m + in guaranteed dollars...

mgteich · Mar 31, 2026

Pape said:
his fourth year base salary is $2.259m... 550k roster bonus, 4.8m cap hit...

we have to exercise his fifth year option in about a month (5/1) ... when they do that, his 2027 salary jumps to $18.1m, and it is fully guaranteed...

and yes the signing bonus will matter to a degree because its guaranteed dollars, but overall its about the full amount of guaranteed money in the deal...

realistically, he's look at 100m + in guaranteed dollars...

It is a matter of perspective and semantics.

When the 5th year option on his rookie contract is exercized (as it will be), Gonzo's contract for 2026 and 2027 will total $20M plus any incentives. This is true independent of any extension.

An extension would be for the 3-4 years starting in 2028 and would include a signing bonus which would be amortized from 2026 through the years of the extension. The only effect for 2026 and 2027 is that amorization.

I also expect $100M or more guaranteed. I expect a total of $40M AAV for the 3-4 years of the extension (salary plus bonus).

Huckleberry1 · Apr 5, 2026

WinstonSmith said:
This makes sense as the overthecap number is actually $42,176,235, as of 93 seconds ago...

It also makes sense because Miguel is the Patriots capologist.

PatsfanTN · Apr 5, 2026

borisman said:
TreVeyon Henderson will NOT get released. His deal is fully guaranteed.

Who the hell was even hinting at that?? Lmao, funniest thing I’ve read today.

Hugepatsfan · Apr 5, 2026

Henderson came out in support of statements made by a professional athlete that got him released by his team. So it's hardly an absurd question to ask of if he could potentially suffer the same fate for expressing the same view. Doesn't seem likely though.

Ivey was a FA at season's end and he stinks so unlikely CHI felt any strong desire to keep him. Henderson on the other hand, seems to be viewed as a potential key piece of the team. CHI's move was kind of an empty gesture, tbh.

Also, NFL fan base is a different makeup than NBA's. If the Pats cut Henderson for what he said, that actually might do more damage to their brand than his support of Ivey's comments because strong Christians who are intolerant of homosexuality are a bigger demographic in the NFL fan base than the NBA's.

Real fan 02 · Apr 6, 2026

Hugepatsfan said:
Henderson came out in support of statements made by a professional athlete that got him released by his team. So it's hardly an absurd question to ask of if he could potentially suffer the same fate for expressing the same view. Doesn't seem likely though.

Ivey was a FA at season's end and he stinks so unlikely CHI felt any strong desire to keep him. Henderson on the other hand, seems to be viewed as a potential key piece of the team. CHI's move was kind of an empty gesture, tbh.

Also, NFL fan base is a different makeup than NBA's. If the Pats cut Henderson for what he said, that actually might do more damage to their brand than his support of Ivey's comments because strong Christians who are intolerant of homosexuality are a bigger demographic in the NFL fan base than the NBA's.

As a athlete in professional sports you have to be very careful of what you express because there is never going to be anything positive that comes out of it.

Sports is the only thing in life that can galvanize and bring people together from all the other things in life.

For example Michael Jordan always walked this fine line in his career.. I've. Player has a right to believe what they believe but always be mindful of what you choose to publicly express because it can affect you as it did with ivey.

When players sign contracts thier agents make them aware of all of this. I do know that also the NFL as well as the respective teams have certain policies players have to abide by. I'd just say guys need to be very mindful of what they express publicly.

n1997y · Apr 6, 2026

Real fan 02 said:
As a athlete in professional sports you have to be very careful of what you express because there is never going to be anything positive that comes out of it.

Sports is the only thing in life that can galvanize and bring people together from all the other things in life.

For example Michael Jordan always walked this fine line in his career.. I've. Player has a right to believe what they believe but always be mindful of what you choose to publicly express because it can affect you as it did with ivey.

When players sign contracts thier agents make them aware of all of this. I do know that also the NFL as well as the respective teams have certain policies players have to abide by. I'd just say guys need to be very mindful of what they express publicly.

Freedom of speech is only guaranteed against government repression. Employers are free to restrict employees from saying whatever they want. Teams have a vested interest in not offending any particular segment of their fanbase. Players need to balance their desire to speak their beliefs against not biting hands that are feeding them.

TL;DR: if players feel strongly about needing to voice their beliefs they should quit sports and become preachers.

Real fan 02 · Apr 6, 2026

n1997y said:
Freedom of speech is only guaranteed against government repression. Employers are free to restrict employees from saying whatever they want. Teams have a vested interest in not offending any particular segment of their fanbase. Players need to balance their desire to speak their beliefs against not biting hands that are feeding them.

TL;DR: if players feel strongly about needing to voice their beliefs they should quit sports and become preachers.

Agreed.. that's why I said players have a right to believe what they want to believe but how whenever you choose to play professional sports wich grants you all kinds of platform and access the average person doesn't it doesn't give you a right to express your beliefs as should everyone have to agree with you..

For example at my job I only talk family sports and weather.. no religion, no beliefs no politics is how I've lasted 23 years as an employee.

n1997y · Apr 6, 2026

Real fan 02 said:
Agreed.. that's why I said players have a right to believe what they want to believe but how whenever you choose to play professional sports wich grants you all kinds of platform and access the average person doesn't it doesn't give you a right to express your beliefs as should everyone have to agree with you..

For example at my job I only talk family sports and weather.. no religion, no beliefs no politics is how I've lasted 23 years as an employee.

Yep. I worked on Cap Hill for twelve years and never talked politics in the workplace. My job required working with all the Senate offices and committees so I had to be trusted by all of them.

The one exception was Mitch McConnell’s guy, because he is a religiously observant Muslim and his schedule was predictably impacted by Ramadan. We discussed religion in the context of those practical effects. It gave me a little more insight into Ramadan, which I think is a good thing.

Real fan 02 · Apr 6, 2026

n1997y said:
Yep. I worked on Cap Hill for twelve years and never talked politics in the workplace. My job required working with all the Senate offices and committees so I had to be trusted by all of them.

The one exception was Mitch McConnell’s guy, because he is a religiously observant Muslim and his schedule was predictably impacted by Ramadan. We discussed religion in the context of those practical effects. It gave me a little more insight into Ramadan, which I think is a good thing.

Thank you for sharing this information! I've been privileged to have met many politicians over the years.. especially growing up in Boston.. many on the federal state and local level so I can definitely understand what you're saying.. I work for a powerful state agency as well so we fall under the code of ethics.

I remember once had the chance to hang out for a bit with Obamas head of Secret service.. and saw the motorcade what an experience!!

n1997y · Apr 8, 2026

Real fan 02 said:
Thank you for sharing this information! I've been privileged to have met many politicians over the years.. especially growing up in Boston.. many on the federal state and local level so I can definitely understand what you're saying.. I work for a powerful state agency as well so we fall under the code of ethics.

I remember once had the chance to hang out for a bit with Obamas head of Secret service.. and saw the motorcade what an experience!!

It’s off topic, but now you’ve reminded me of an experience I think everybody getting torqued about politics should hear and consider.

Years ago I chaired the board of selectmen in a small NH town. We had a real mess, local mill went bankrupt after 9/11 and left us a toxic waste dump on the edge of town. I knew we would need Superfund help to clean it up. At the time Sen. Bob Smith was chairing the Environmental and Public Works (EPW) Committee in the U.S. Senate. He had broken with the GOP and turned independent when he was trying to run for President, then returned to the Republican fold when his candidacy didn’t get any traction. Of course the Union Leader was all over him, and to read the paper or watch WMUR he was a total clown who couldn’t find his ass to wipe it with both hands.

The NH BIA (Business and Industry Association) hosted a breakfast with Sen. Smith talking about environmental issues, so I attended. He spoke for about 45 minutes about issues before EPW, totally extemporaneously, no notes, just a perfectly cogent overview giving the high level big picture of the national strategy on environmental issues. Totally dissonant with the constant media narrative that he was a totally incompetent bumbling buffoon.

But he lost his job when the Republicans primaried him. His opponent won the Republican primary and then the general election to take his seat. Too bad, his successor was a party hack and nowhere near as competent as the Senator I heard speaking at that breakfast.

PancakeBlockPaul · Apr 9, 2026

n1997y said:
Freedom of speech is only guaranteed against government repression. Employers are free to restrict employees from saying whatever they want. Teams have a vested interest in not offending any particular segment of their fanbase. Players need to balance their desire to speak their beliefs against not biting hands that are feeding them.

TL;DR: if players feel strongly about needing to voice their beliefs they should quit sports and become preachers.

It’s sad that more people don’t understand this or somehow think it doesn’t apply to them.

Real fan 02 · Apr 10, 2026

n1997y said:
It’s off topic, but now you’ve reminded me of an experience I think everybody getting torqued about politics should hear and consider.

Years ago I chaired the board of selectmen in a small NH town. We had a real mess, local mill went bankrupt after 9/11 and left us a toxic waste dump on the edge of town. I knew we would need Superfund help to clean it up. At the time Sen. Bob Smith was chairing the Environmental and Public Works (EPW) Committee in the U.S. Senate. He had broken with the GOP and turned independent when he was trying to run for President, then returned to the Republican fold when his candidacy didn’t get any traction. Of course the Union Leader was all over him, and to read the paper or watch WMUR he was a total clown who couldn’t find his ass to wipe it with both hands.

The NH BIA (Business and Industry Association) hosted a breakfast with Sen. Smith talking about environmental issues, so I attended. He spoke for about 45 minutes about issues before EPW, totally extemporaneously, no notes, just a perfectly cogent overview giving the high level big picture of the national strategy on environmental issues. Totally dissonant with the constant media narrative that he was a totally incompetent bumbling buffoon.

But he lost his job when the Republicans primaried him. His opponent won the Republican primary and then the general election to take his seat. Too bad, his successor was a party hack and nowhere near as competent as the Senator I heard speaking at that breakfast.

That's awesome!!! I appreciate you sharing this! The words of politics. Living in Boston I often have felt that it's more political than DC LOL...

But everything that moves in my city is political driven to some degree. Nonetheless it's a beautiful city and I've experienced and learned so much from the political people that I was fortunate to meet. I grew up in a generation like no other and I share this with my child and others to let them know how important it is to vote and always give back to the community anyway you can. So I can appreciate your experiences as you know this first hand.

Real fan 02 · Apr 10, 2026

PancakeBlockPaul said:
It’s sad that more people don’t understand this or somehow think it doesn’t apply to them.

True. Is why in my conversations with @n1997y I agree with with him. Players work for an organization and you represent that organization when you choose to sign on the dotted line...

Just like you make a conscious effort to take the $$$$ you have to make conscious efforts to watch what comes out your mouth. Like Jordan said before steer clear of those things becomes you will never ever be right.

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