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Really interesting video. It’s a long watch. The video is 80 minutes.

HIs summary at end is what frustrated me the most. The lack of hot reads off the blitz was mind boggling. Did they expect no blitzing and not plan? Is Drake supposed to check to a hot read and didn't? Normally receiver just adjusts and QB then does it to. No receivers ever hot route adjusted when blitz came from their side. WHY? So basic was extremely frustrating.

It's like they'd never seen a blitz before.
 
we knew Maye needed alot of work when he was drafted and this is only year 2. He had the least experience of all the qbs in his class except McCarthy. Seems he was not ready for the stage and taking what defenses give you is a part of his game he’ll need to work on. Josh Allen had the same gunslinger mentality, had to learn to dink and dunk and this elevated his game to where he is now.

Like i said in another thread, Maye did take a giant leap this year but it was exaggerated by the easy schedule. Most of The tough defenses he did face were still pretty piss poor teams overall so there wasn’t the same pressure to do great and he was normally playing from ahead in these games by the 2nd half. He isn’t the top 3 qb he looked like in the regular season but overall hes still top 10 id say which is still incredible progress from year 1. Now he needs to learn from this and improve in the same areas. If we continue to upgrade the OL that should help a ton. But we’ll also find out how hard he is willing to study and evolve.
Now we’re questioning his work ethic lmao.
 
From 2001-2006 Brady fumbled 59 times and threw 78 picks. That is a ****load....and won 3 Super Bowls.

Sam Darnold was a turnover machine this year and won a Super Bowl.

Drake needs to improve but sometimes it takes a few years to master ball security.

Where he needs to improve is in his short, quick passes and gaining more confidence in acting on what he is seeing faster.
Different era honestly. That's 13 picks a season for Brady. To give you an idea, In 2001, 18 QB's had more picks than Brady. In 2002, 14 QB's had more picks. Guys were throwing 20 sometimes close to 30 INT's.

Brady was never top 10 in most INT's thrown those years. This year if you averaged what Brady did you were one of the 5 worst turnover QB's in the league.

It's a night and day difference. Brady was basically average in that stat and better than many of his elite peers.
 
Different era honestly. That's 13 picks a season for Brady. To give you an idea, In 2001, 18 QB's had more picks than Brady. In 2002, 14 QB's had more picks. Guys were throwing 20 sometimes close to 30 INT's.

Brady was never top 10 in most INT's thrown those years. This year if you averaged what Brady did you were one of the 5 worst turnover QB's in the league.

It's a night and day difference. Brady was basically average in that stat and better than many of his elite peers.
In hindsight Brady was already a pretty special QB in 2002 hence why he almost beat out Bledsoe in training camp. The eyes of football just didn’t understand his brand of QBing. If anything, getting hooked on Moss caused a regression and a 3 year hangover where he had to correct his mechanics.
 
Different era honestly. That's 13 picks a season for Brady. To give you an idea, In 2001, 18 QB's had more picks than Brady. In 2002, 14 QB's had more picks. Guys were throwing 20 sometimes close to 30 INT's.

Brady was never top 10 in most INT's thrown those years. This year if you averaged what Brady did you were one of the 5 worst turnover QB's in the league.

It's a night and day difference. Brady was basically average in that stat and better than many of his elite peers.
The point is his ball security sucked and improved. Picks are picks. Fumbles are fumbles.
 


Really interesting video. It’s a long watch. The video is 80 minutes.

Thank you. In about a week, I give up social media for Lent, and this looks like something awesome to watch before the hammer (edit: the gentle hammer) of God comes down. Again, thank you. Pax vobiscum.
 
In hindsight Brady was already a pretty special QB in 2002 hence why he almost beat out Bledsoe in training camp. The eyes of football just didn’t understand his brand of QBing. If anything, getting hooked on Moss caused a regression and a 3 year hangover where he had to correct his mechanics.
Brady was a night and day difference from his peers and the guy he replaced. If you compared him to guys like Manning and Farve who were elite at the time, he took care of the ball better and was less selfish. If you compare him to Bledsoe, his pocket awareness was probably one of his first elite attributes and it made a huge difference.

I do agree, I think trying to play Superman with Moss statistically was great but it also took them out of a lot of what had worked. Then when he got his teeth kicked in against the Chiefs he really locked in and decided he was just going to carve everyone up and we got three more rings.
 
Yeah I haven’t looked at the film extensively but looking quickly at the all-22 I really don’t see lots of quick options to throw to within the timing of the offense. Unless he’s looking short immediately there isn’t enough time to get to the shorter checks.
 
The point is his ball security sucked and improved. Picks are picks. Fumbles are fumbles.
My point is that it didn't suck relative to era. He was quite good and one of the better starting QB's with interceptions across the league. He didn't change so much as the rules did and brought his and everyone else's averages down.

Fumbles you have point in that he did fumble quite a bit. But he was kinda saved from that stat because he usually ended middle of the pack in terms of fumbles lost.
 
HIs summary at end is what frustrated me the most. The lack of hot reads off the blitz was mind boggling. Did they expect no blitzing and not plan? Is Drake supposed to check to a hot read and didn't? Normally receiver just adjusts and QB then does it to. No receivers ever hot route adjusted when blitz came from their side. WHY? So basic was extremely frustrating.

It's like they'd never seen a blitz before.
Maybe they didn't plan for it since the Seahawks almost never blitz! And in the second half, they stopped blitzing.
 
My point is that it didn't suck relative to era. He was quite good and one of the better starting QB's with interceptions across the league. He didn't change so much as the rules did and brought his and everyone else's averages down.

Fumbles you have point in that he did fumble quite a bit. But he was kinda saved from that stat because he usually ended middle of the pack in terms of fumbles lost.
Brady's INT % was in the bottom 1/4 of starting QBs so yes. He was Sam Darnold level but respective of the times it was normal.

Drake's INT% was outstanding this year but in the playoffs it jumped. Shoulder, weather, tougher defenses, line play, etc.
 
I’ve watched about 20 minutes so far (I realize that’s only a quarter of the video but still) and the overall feeling has been that Drake was fine, it was Will Campbell and Josh McDaniels’ fault. We’ll see if that holds up.
I watched the whole thing. Summary is that almost everyone was bad to some extent. First and foremost was the pass protection (and not just Campbell and Wilson, although they were the worst), but then McDaniels’ play schemes and the lack of hot reads were #2 (amuses me watching some videos by random you tubers screaming Maye wasn’t taking the hot reads, and then in this video you clearly see that those receivers weren’t looking for the ball because they weren’t the hot reads). But Maye also didn’t play well; not as bad as other videos have implied, but still not good enough. He thinks Maye started to play scared at some point in the 2nd half because he wasn’t stepping into his throws as he kept getting hit on every pass. Then the receivers — probably were the “best” unit in that they were getting open on many plays, but there was a lot of bad route running — O’Sullivan particularly laid hard into Hooper on the wide open miss, that was 100% on Hooper.

Was interesting to see the viewpoint from someone who actually played the game as a QB. He really sounded most disappointed in McDaniels at the end of the video — that a coaching staff known for making great adjustments made zero adjustments when they saw what was going on out there.
 
Vrabel and McDaniels need to do a postmortem of this cadaver and see what the f*ck happened.

If we are all seeing that the game plan was **** then McDaniels needs to explain himself.
 
Vrabel and McDaniels need to do a postmortem of this cadaver and see what the f*ck happened.

If we are all seeing that the game plan was **** then McDaniels needs to explain himself.
I don't think you need to do much. One team was just flat out better in the offense vs defense match up. We can hyper analyze a lot, but we went against the best defense in the league and the offense couldn't get anything going because they could rush with 4 and cause pressure and when they blitzed it was just way too much.

If Seattle had an A game, they were going to beat our A game, we had an A game on defense and a C game on offense.

Nothing happened last night that didn't happen all playoff long. We just finally played an offense that was competent enough to get some field goals wand put us in a hole where we took risks to get back in the game and made mistakes and once we did floodgates opened. There wasn't some profound misstep where in hindsight the code was going to cracked.

The offense struggled against quality defenses and finally played an offense that was going to do okay enough to make it matter
 
In hindsight Brady was already a pretty special QB in 2002 hence why he almost beat out Bledsoe in training camp. The eyes of football just didn’t understand his brand of QBing. If anything, getting hooked on Moss caused a regression and a 3 year hangover where he had to correct his mechanics.

Brady minus the athleticism was more well rounded than Maye in their year 2 seasons. His footwork was what you’d want in a pro style offense. Even still, as he said it took him a long time to get the answers and in that time he was improving his game. Brady’s footwork in the 2010’s was much better than his footwork in year 2 which is saying a lot. Having said that, the thing Maye had going in his favor year 2 over Brady was he had a more aggressive offense and was the runner up MVP. I’m encouraged by that because if he works on his weaknesses like his footwork, pocket presence, reading defenses faster and getting to the check downs etc, the sky is the limit.
 
Even Brady would get sped up when he got hit a lot. Maye had a bad game, but he was doomed for failure because he was getting hit almost every time he was dropping back it seemed.

Also, I am convinced his shoulder was far worse than they let on. You don’t get a numbing shot in your shoulder if it isn’t hurting just in case it gets hurt. There is a risk that the shot can over numb the shoulder and negatively affect him.
 
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I watched the whole thing. Summary is that almost everyone was bad to some extent. First and foremost was the pass protection (and not just Campbell and Wilson, although they were the worst), but then McDaniels’ play schemes and the lack of hot reads were #2 (amuses me watching some videos by random you tubers screaming Maye wasn’t taking the hot reads, and then in this video you clearly see that those receivers weren’t looking for the ball because they weren’t the hot reads). But Maye also didn’t play well; not as bad as other videos have implied, but still not good enough. He thinks Maye started to play scared at some point in the 2nd half because he wasn’t stepping into his throws as he kept getting hit on every pass. Then the receivers — probably were the “best” unit in that they were getting open on many plays, but there was a lot of bad route running — O’Sullivan particularly laid hard into Hooper on the wide open miss, that was 100% on Hooper.

Was interesting to see the viewpoint from someone who actually played the game as a QB. He really sounded most disappointed in McDaniels at the end of the video — that a coaching staff known for making great adjustments made zero adjustments when they saw what was going on out there.
The Hooper play was so disappointing. Live, I thought it was either a bad miss by Maye or just guys not being on the same page. But now watching the breakdown, it is clear that Hooper basically just gave up and stopped running as soon as he got contacted at his break. He just kind started jogging. Then was shocked that the ball was thrown to him.

Like dude - it’s the ****ing Super Bowl - you are trying to come back, it’s still within reach, and you’re giving up on your route in basically 2 seconds? What a MF. Please don’t come back in 2026.

Oh I also watched all 1 hour 21 minutes too. Good stuff.
 
And, per Michael Hurley, Jared Wilson.
IMO, I don’t think Wilson was TOO bad. Not his best game but he wasn’t getting whooped or anything. He was not the big problem.
 
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