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Lagaffe_07 · Feb 9, 2026

I don’t know if the result would have changed but Maye was looking scared last night. He played scared. Brady wouldn’t have played scared.

Brady always had that confidence in himself.

Maye totally lost his confidence during those playoffs. Maye was so good in the regular season to not repeat the same mistakes often. In the playoffs he kept making the same mistakes over and over again.

I hoped Vrabel and Josh would be able to get Maye his mojo back in those two weeks. Unfortunately it didn’t happen. Josh called the game like his QB was a liability.

PatsfanTN · Feb 9, 2026

Maye held onto the ball too long. That being said, no QB would have done well with their LT and LG being pushed into them every play. Oline upgrade must be priority one next year.

brdmaverick · Feb 9, 2026

Triumph said:
Brady struggled year 2 because Marty Schottenhiemer studied film in the pre season and noticed that Brady was less accurate if you pressured him off his spot. Post 2002 Chargers game every team tried to copy the SD game plan vs Brady.

Brady adjusted year 3.

Maye will always be compared to Brady or Bledsoe.

I wouldn't say Brady personally struggled. He led the league in touchdown passes. It was the defense that was atrocious. Opponents ran for over 200 yards at least four times. THe D just wasn't very good

ahmed · Feb 9, 2026

Ross12 said:
That was Brady's key trait, but I don't know if he was that amazing at it in his first season starting. He was good, but he was raw.

Did you see the look in Brady's eyes in 2001 SB? Completely different mentality IMO. We needed that and Brady's short game and quick decision making last night.

It's also on Josh. Once it was obvious the OL was getting bullied, it should have been short passes and screens galore.

yukon cornelius · Feb 9, 2026

not sure if it has been thrown out there yet, but maye admitted he took an injection in the shoulder last night to be able to play

there is zero doubt that effected his throws (they were either short and off, or absolutely lasered), his release (he didn't want to pull the trigger, looked a little gunshy, only threw when he seemed certain), they held him back from running the first 2/3 of the game.....i'm going to say it again, i expect a dr andrews visit forthcoming

203Pat · Feb 9, 2026

yukon cornelius said:
not sure if it has been thrown out there yet, but maye admitted he took an injection in the shoulder last night to be able to play

there is zero doubt that effected his throws (they were either short and off, or absolutely lasered), his release (he didn't want to pull the trigger, looked a little gunshy, only threw when he seemed certain), they held him back from running the first 2/3 of the game.....i'm going to say it again, i expect a dr andrews visit forthcoming

That miss to Hooper was brutal.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 · Feb 9, 2026

yukon cornelius said:
not sure if it has been thrown out there yet, but maye admitted he took an injection in the shoulder last night to be able to play

there is zero doubt that effected his throws (they were either short and off, or absolutely lasered), his release (he didn't want to pull the trigger, looked a little gunshy, only threw when he seemed certain), they held him back from running the first 2/3 of the game.....i'm going to say it again, i expect a dr andrews visit forthcoming

The throws don’t bother me so much as the body language. He just didn’t look like a leader out there yesterday. He needs to take that jump next year and come off more confident in himself. He just stood on the sideline and had very little energy all game

Lagaffe_07 · Feb 9, 2026

ahmed said:
Did you see the look in Brady's eyes in 2001 SB? Completely different mentality IMO. We needed that and Brady's short game and quick decision making last night.

It's also on Josh. Once it was obvious the OL was getting bullied, it should have been short passes and screens galore.

They also completely went away the last two games from their heavy 6 OL package.

Lagaffe_07 · Feb 9, 2026

yukon cornelius said:
not sure if it has been thrown out there yet, but maye admitted he took an injection in the shoulder last night to be able to play

there is zero doubt that effected his throws (they were either short and off, or absolutely lasered), his release (he didn't want to pull the trigger, looked a little gunshy, only threw when he seemed certain), they held him back from running the first 2/3 of the game.....i'm going to say it again, i expect a dr andrews visit forthcoming

It’s Bedard so take it with a grain of salt but on 98.5 he said yesterday that he texted some people in the organization after the game and they all said that Drake was fine.

Seem to me it would be a built in excuse to put out there than Drake was basically playing with only one shoulder. So i wouldn’t understand the need to lie to say that he was fine

Joey007 · Feb 9, 2026

Ross12 said:
IMO - Tom MIGHT have been a little better because he was better at the quick pass at that time, but he was also very raw - his second year in the league was the first year he had started games at all. He also would have been 1 year older than Drake at the time, I believe. But ultimately I don't think Tom could have done a whole lot against constant quick pressure from just 4 rushers and little to no run game. Even Tom at his absolute best would have had a very hard time.

Rams had a fine defense. But definitely not close to the defense this Seattle team has. Worth noting there.

patman12 · Feb 9, 2026

I think if you put Maye behind the OL Brady had during his second season, the Pats may have won last night. Would there still have been sacks because Maye hung onto the ball for too long? Most likely but the numbers would have been lower and Maye would have had been pressured much less.

Did Josh call any screens? I can’t remember any but that doesn’t mean none were run.

TheRainMaker · Feb 9, 2026

Triumph said:
Brady struggled year 2 because Marty Schottenhiemer studied film in the pre season and noticed that Brady was less accurate if you pressured him off his spot. Post 2002 Chargers game every team tried to copy the SD game plan vs Brady.

Brady adjusted year 3.

Maye will always be compared to Brady or Bledsoe.

The Marty thing is overrated he tried to take too much credit for. Brady struggled because he faced 13 of 16 teams that had at least a .500 record. That's got to be an NFL record. 7 of those teams made the playoffs, 3 made the divisional round, 2 made the AFCCG and 1 in the Super Bowl.

On top of that, the defense was atrocious. They were lucky to go 9-7, yet they still had a chance to win the division.

TheRainMaker · Feb 9, 2026

Tom would've had hard time as well last night. The personnel doesn't have the quick twitch guys like an Welker, Edelman, Amendola. Diggs is cooked once he sees a DB man him up. Basically the Jacobi Meyers disease. The OL was the worst I've ever seen in a big game. Tom's footwork wasn't anywhere near what it became later in his career.

But McDaniels was extremely disappointing throughout the playoffs. He channels coach Red Beaulieu once his initial attack is stopped or he knows he's facing an elite defense. He tends to turtle way too much. Charlie Weiss was extremely underrated and by far their best OC since 2000.

stinkypete · Feb 9, 2026

I don't think 2016 Brady would have won that game. Seattle is just, for now, better up and down their roster.

p8ryts · Feb 9, 2026

dannydyn said:
Morning fellas,

Season is over and we’re onto 2026, but before we flip the page I have one lingering thought on my mind as I try to decide what to make of Drake Maye regular season performance vs. his post season. Granted, the caliber of teams we faced in the playoffs was better, we did face some decent defenses throughout the regular season as well and seemed to handle them just fine.

I’m curious to know how much of the loss yesterday was on Drake Maye vs. the abysmal o-line play and/or receivers. The roster has been largely intact personnel wise throughout the season, especially in the o-line (outside Campbell’s injury which I think he hasn’t looked the same since….).

So humor me on this one: Replay last night’s game in your head for a moment - same EXACT teams but you swap out Maye for a 2nd year Tom Brady…. What do you think the outcome of the game would have been? Still a loss? Closer loss? Worse loss? Again – not veteran Brady but a 2nd year one. Would a 2nd year Brady fared better last night? And before some of you say “Brady DID win a Superbowl his second year”… The 2001 Rams and the 2025 Seahawks are not the same teams. Rams had a great offense, and Pats showed up with awesome defense. Granted Brady played as good as he possibly could have in that Superbowl, but I think the challenge in that game was more about stopping the “Greatest Show on Turf”. Last night however, Seattle was a more complete team. So I’m wondering if all that bashing (especially outside this region) of Drake Maye is really justified? Could he have done a better job last night? Is it all on the o-line? Is it on both? Would a 2nd year Brady (same exact play calls, same o-line, same receivers) have fared better against that Seattle defense?

Just curious to hear your thoughts.

My thought is Brady is gone, let it go. JEEZ.

dannydyn · Feb 9, 2026

p8ryts said:
My thought is Brady is gone, let it go. JEEZ.

I let Brady go back when he left for Tampa. You're missing the point here. This thread is not about reminiscing, not even about comparing Maye to Brady. I'm just trying to figure out how much last night's loss was really on Maye (by plugging the best QB I could think of into the equation), that's all. Was curious to know what people thought on whether the outcome would have been better with the GOAT at year 2 under center behind that o-line and with those receivers. I guess subconsciously I would like to give Maye some slack here. Getting to the Superbowl in year 2, with that Swiss cheese O-line and average receiving corp., is not something to take for granted, as some here it seems, tend to do.

This has nothing to do with nostalgia.

PatsFan2 · Feb 9, 2026

dannydyn said:
I let Brady go back when he left for Tampa. You're missing the point here. This thread is not about reminiscing, not even about comparing Maye to Brady. I'm just trying to figure out how much last night's loss was really on Maye (by plugging the best QB I could think of into the equation), that's all. Was curious to know what people thought on whether the outcome would have been better with the GOAT at year 2. I guess subconsciously I would like to give Maye some slack here. Getting to the Superbowl in year 2, with that Swiss cheese O-line and average receiving corp., is not something to take for granted, as some here it seems, tend to do.

This has nothing to do with nostalgia.

The GOAT wouldn't miss open Receivers or hang his head.

dannydyn · Feb 9, 2026

PatsFan2 said:
The GOAT wouldn't miss open Receivers or hang his head.

Even the sophomore GOAT with that trash o-line?

PatsFan2 · Feb 9, 2026

dannydyn said:
Even the sophomore GOAT with that trash o-line?

I'm over it Maye knows He Choked in the Big Moment. Vrabel know now that Maye can carry a bunch of JAGS on Offense only so far: he better get him some Elite Players.

upstater1 · Feb 9, 2026

dannydyn said:
Morning fellas,

Season is over and we’re onto 2026, but before we flip the page I have one lingering thought on my mind as I try to decide what to make of Drake Maye regular season performance vs. his post season. Granted, the caliber of teams we faced in the playoffs was better, we did face some decent defenses throughout the regular season as well and seemed to handle them just fine.

I’m curious to know how much of the loss yesterday was on Drake Maye vs. the abysmal o-line play and/or receivers. The roster has been largely intact personnel wise throughout the season, especially in the o-line (outside Campbell’s injury which I think he hasn’t looked the same since….).

So humor me on this one: Replay last night’s game in your head for a moment - same EXACT teams but you swap out Maye for a 2nd year Tom Brady…. What do you think the outcome of the game would have been? Still a loss? Closer loss? Worse loss? Again – not veteran Brady but a 2nd year one. Would a 2nd year Brady fared better last night? And before some of you say “Brady DID win a Superbowl his second year”… The 2001 Rams and the 2025 Seahawks are not the same teams. Rams had a great offense, and Pats showed up with awesome defense. Granted Brady played as good as he possibly could have in that Superbowl, but I think the challenge in that game was more about stopping the “Greatest Show on Turf”. Last night however, Seattle was a more complete team. So I’m wondering if all that bashing (especially outside this region) of Drake Maye is really justified? Could he have done a better job last night? Is it all on the o-line? Is it on both? Would a 2nd year Brady (same exact play calls, same o-line, same receivers) have fared better against that Seattle defense?

Just curious to hear your thoughts.

Young Brady had some multiple INT games against great defenses, so it's impossible to know what he would have done. On the other hand, Drake could've used some more checkdown plays. He looked good throwing to Rham and Trev.

Speaking of Trev, some of these rookies don't really know playoff ball. You could see it early last night when Drake Maye ran on 2nd and 20 for a 10 yard gain. Trev gave a wimpy half-hearted block on Emmanwori. If he gave just a little more effort (it's disappointing to be talking about lack of effort for the Super Bowl) then Maye would've definitely run for 20 and the first down.

That one wimpy block stalled an entire early series.

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