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Patriots Pregame Thread SUPER BOWL PREGAME THREAD - Patriots vs Seahawks 2026 SB - The Rematch

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Thanks for digging up the stats. I merely pointed out one flaw. Relax. (you're definitely not going to relax now that I said that)

The only flaw was you not reading what was actually posted.
 
seems people outside of here are talking about this SB as a foregone conclusion. I'm hearing the exact same pre-game chatter about a blowout. just like 2001 (NE-STL) and 2007 (NE-NYG)
 
I know bringing up BB is a sour subject here but I know when we has the coach at his prime , how would come up with gameplan most of the times to take their best away. I am trusting Vrabel to come up with something as well
 
Of course, absolutely no surprise to be had, the scaredy cats are out in full force in this thread, you would think the 9-8 Patriots are playing the 19-0 Seahawks, instead of one 17-3 team playing one 16-3 team.

People are clowning the ''experts'' and the haters who keep harping on the schedule, the easy path, the Pats have played no one, bla bla but they're doing the exact same thing, and acting like this Seattle team is unbeatable and the Pats, the same team that has won 16 out of their last 17 games are just happy to be here.

They are a very good team, but this is the same unbeatable defense that let 1000+ yards against the Rams in two games, the same defense that let Mayfield throw for 400 yards and score 38 points on their heads, the same incredible offense that needed a last second field goal to beat the Philip Rivers Colts 18-16.

It's easy to be a great defense when you play against 50-year old Kirk Cousins, 60-year old Philip Rivers, Kyler Murray, C.J Stroud, Spencer Rattler, Max Brosner, Jacoby Brissett on a horrible Cardinals team, and playing what was left of the corpse of the 49ers twice late in the season. The two times they played great QB's, they got torched, and couldn't get off the field.

My post isn't meant to undervalue what Seattle has done. They've earned their way to the Super Bowl. But SO. HAVE. WE. I'm just pushing back on silly narratives like worrying about the points spread, about the 4th consecutive edition of ''OMG THE 85 BEARS defense is back'' about how this expert and that said this thing or the other. We all have eyes and a brain, go watch the Colts game, or the Bucs game, or the Titans game, or any of the three Rams games, and tell me with a straight face we can't beat this team.

It's a 50-50 game, 1000 little things in the next two weeks will decide the winner, and the points spread isn't one of them and neither is whether an ''expert'' continues to undervalue our team.

We're Pats fans for heaven's sake, Man Up, the entire country hates our team so much, they decided that the ideal gas law conspired with the Pats to help them to cheat. Believe in your team, and accept that we're one win way from destroying the collective sanity of NFL fans everywhere.

Just like we hadn't faced anyone prior to the Chargers, just like Houston was an unbeatable defense, just like Stidham was the second coming of Tom Brady for about a week, this Seattle team will be the stuff of nightmares, because people WANT the Pats to lose more than anything, and we will never get any credit after we beat them. **** them all. We're still going to win and there's nothing any ''expert'' or hater can do about it.
 
Seattle is a great team no doubt. But I would rather go up against Darnold over Super Bowl winning QB Stafford any Sunday.
 
Maye doesn't need to have a really good game. He needs to play as well as Stafford did, for four quarters.

Our Defense needs to play better than LA's Defense. This is doable.

This is a tall order, but we certainly have a reasonable chance to be Super Bowl champs.
That would be a stretch, he hasn’t had a playoff game near as good as Stafford had vs the Seahawks. I don’t see that happening. He has ONE career 300 yard game in 2 seasons.
 
at least the SB should be good weather unlike these last 3 playoff games. Maye should be better because of that
 
That would be a stretch, he hasn’t had a playoff game near as good as Stafford had vs the Seahawks. I don’t see that happening. He has ONE career 300 yard game in 2 seasons.
He doesn’t need to throw for 300 yds to be a good game.

During the regular season he was consistently between 250yds and 300 yds.

Stafford can’t scramble. His only way to move the ball is by throwing it. Drake can scramble and doesn’t need to throw it every time to move the ball.

He has 5 games over 300 total yds in the regular season and 6 between 285 total yds and 300 total yds. And 1 playoffs game over 300 total yds

Don’t forget that we were often up big in the 2nd half and didn’t need to put a lot of yards coming back.

This team is built to take the lead and control the game. Make Seattle offense one dimensional, put pressure on Darnold and he will make mistakes
 
How sweet it would be if Maye and the offense put up 30-40 points en route to a Super Bowl victory.

Gut-reaction predictions​

Stephania Bell, NFL analyst: Seahawks. Their defense will be the difference-maker here; the consistent, relentless pressure up front will ultimately force costly turnovers by the Patriots.

Matt Bowen, NFL analyst: Seahawks. Their defense has the team speed and physical demeanor up front to limit Maye's ability to create explosive plays.

Dan Graziano, national NFL reporter: Seahawks. They've been the best team all season, hiding in plain sight, and they'll make life brutally tough on Maye, who has already been sacked 15 times this postseason.

Dan Orlovsky, NFL analyst: Seahawks. The Patriots' offense isn't good enough to beat this Seattle defense.

Eric Moody, fantasy and betting analyst: Seahawks. Seattle's defense has been formidable all season, and defense still wins championships. The Patriots are averaging just 18.0 points per game this postseason, the fourth fewest by a team entering the Super Bowl and the fewest since 1979. Two of the three teams went on to lose the Super Bowl.

Aaron Schatz, NFL analyst: Seahawks. The Seahawks have been No. 1 in my DVOA ratings for most of the second half of the season, and with that defense, I'm expecting a lower-scoring Super Bowl. Seahawks 24, Patriots 18.

Ben Solak, NFL analyst: Seahawks. The Patriots' run against elite defenses ends with the true best unit of the season. With two weeks to plan, Macdonald will have too many tools to fluster and disrupt Maye.

Lindsey Thiry, national NFL reporter: Seahawks. They're playing textbook complementary football on offense, defense and special teams. And they have standout playmakers who can change the game in a moment's notice in each phase.

Seth Walder, NFL analyst: Seahawks. ESPN's FPI, which considers a team's play on a down-to-down basis all season, sees the Seahawks as being in a different class as the Patriots. I'm inclined to trust the numbers. Seahawks by double digits.

Field Yates, NFL analyst: Seahawks. The Patriots have faced an extremely difficult string of defenses this postseason, finding ways to overcome the field in the AFC. But Seattle's roster is superior to the rosters of its first three foes, and I believe Seattle will take home the franchise's second Lombardi Trophy.
 
When did the Seahawks last play. Patriots defense this good?

The Patriots have had practice against good defenses all playoffs.

That has to play a part.
 
He doesn’t need to throw for 300 yds to be a good game.

During the regular season he was consistently between 250yds and 300 yds.

Stafford can’t scramble. His only way to move the ball is by throwing it. Drake can scramble and doesn’t need to throw it every time to move the ball.

He has 5 games over 300 total yds in the regular season and 6 between 285 total yds and 300 total yds. And 1 playoffs game over 300 total yds

Don’t forget that we were often up big in the 2nd half and didn’t need to put a lot of yards coming back.

This team is built to take the lead and control the game. Make Seattle offense one dimensional, put pressure on Darnold and he will make mistakes
Nah, Darnold doesn't make mistakes, those 14 INT and 11 fumbles for a league leading 25 turnovers were imaginary. For the next two weeks, Darnold will be the second coming of Tom Brady, the chosen one, the one to stop the Evil Empire vol. 2 aka The First Order.

When we beat them, he will become Captain IF like Herbert, someone who doesn't deserve a new contract like Stroud and a pumpkin after twelve like Stidham.

The Pats are 17-3
The Seahawks are 16-3

The Pats allow 17 ppg
The Seahawks allow 17 ppg

The Pats averaged 28.8 ppg
The Seahawks averaged 28.4 ppg

Maye 31-8, 4440 yards, 450 rushing 4 TD's
Darnold 25-14, 4050, 90 rushing, 0 TD's

The mediot narrative for the next two weeks: Darnold is just as good as Brady ever was, the Seahawks are the 2007 Pats on offense and 85 Bears on defense, and Pats and Drake Maye are lucky to be here.
 
My immediate thoughts are that Maye will have a bit more time against this D than he has had against the other 3.

Houston was the toughest, but he’s had 3 weeks in a row where he has hardly had room to breathe.

He gets 2 weeks rest now. I don’t think Seattle’s defense is as hard as Houston’s.

But, you know what? Darnold had to face off against our D. And as Stidham, Stroud and Herbert can tell you, that ain’t no walk in the park either!
 
Assuming Spillane is good to go I think the Pats can neutralize Seattle’s ability to run. That means Darnold will need to take matters into his own hands.

With regard to JSN. Fortunately we have Gonzo. When you match up the star corner with the star receiver I tend to notice the corner winning most of the battles.
MOST a key word.

Those two can be YAC monsters THEN their RB, Walker, has that super jump cut that just fakes guys out of their shoes. If our run stoppers tackle like what was going on today/yesterday in the cold-slippery…..he can break one.

Since any of this three can be breaking to the house for 7 . Even if they do that every 10th play (most) - - - - > 28 pts.
 
Seattle is a great team no doubt. But I would rather go up against Darnold over Super Bowl winning QB Stafford any Sunday.
By definition: Lambs are NFC ‘ Finalists’ so they were lesser team. Fake MVPs throwing 1-yard TDs COULD HAVE BEEN neutralized better than a whole team working together. Rams would have been easier/ better IMO.

But, ….
“ It is what it is.”
“You want to be the best, you have to beat the best.”

Seahags watch out. ‘We all we need” is coming to a backfield near you !!
 
Let me preface this by saying, Maye is my favorite Patriot right now. But im EXTREMELY concerned about his playoff performances.

His playoffs so far

43 completions 77 attempts 55.8 % completion percentage 4 TD passes, 2 INTs and 3 lost fumbles.

He’s made some key plays, but he’s also hurt the team with turnovers and putting them in a bad position. Thank god for the defense, which has put the Pats in the SB.

I need to see a better performance in the SB, I’m not convinced he can just flip a switch from below average to good though. The pressure really is on Maye now. The question is, can he play well enough to win the SB. I have concerns, and honestly, I’m not sure about him being “the guy” until he proves it. A lot of pressure on his shoulders for a young guy.

I kinda feel bad for Drake, he’s been put in a situation where he has to carry the team offensively. Behind a shoddy OLine, where he’s constantly under pressure. 15 sacks against in 3 games. Other playoff QBs get sacked 1 or 2 times a game.
Even if Maye “isn’t the guy”, win the superbowl and he’ll be legend in NE forever
 
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